Most powerful comic character ever.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Classic Beyonder (Pre-retcon version)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t412978.html

[rodhulk]

Originally Posted by SSJ4_Mikael

Classic Beyonder (Pre-retcon version)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t412978.html

What was said of TOAA at this time?

[The Geek Vault]

that is powerful

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Originally Posted by rodhulk

What was said of TOAA at this time?

TOAA was like he is now, Beyonder was just much stronger...
TOAA is one with the MU Multiverse.
Beyonder was beyond that...

1, Stan Lee himself stated that Classic Beyonder had the same power over the series as the writhers.
2, He had the power surpassing a million MU Multiverses combind, he was all there was beyond the Multiverse.
3, He could wrap from one point to an other as he pleased.
4, He could violate any rules (- in fact he made the rules), TOAA was nohing but a mere being to him, he could turn him into toiletpaper

[SouLeSS]

Why even have a character like that though?

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Well he didnt really exist (due to the retcon).
You know Silverage... Everything was overpowered.
He was just more for fun...

[Super Mark]

I remember thinking he'd be a good plot device, not a character. But when I FIRST saw him, I though he was supposed to be the MU version of God. But changed my mind.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Actually that's true, he was supose to be the God. However he was not only the MU Multiverse, he was also everything Beyond. Making him Omniversal god.

[rodhulk]

Originally Posted by SSJ4_Mikael

TOAA was like he is now, Beyonder was just much stronger...
TOAA is one with the MU Multiverse.
Beyonder was beyond that...

1, Stan Lee himself stated that Classic Beyonder had the same power over the series as the writhers.
2, He had the power surpassing a million MU Multiverses combind, he was all there was beyond the Multiverse.
3, He could wrap from one point to an other as he pleased.
4, He could violate any rules (- in fact he made the rules), TOAA was nohing but a mere being to him, he could turn him into toiletpaper

Actually, though, he was never this powerful due to the, as you said, rectonned, so , in actuallity, TOAA was above the Beyonder.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by #1, though.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Originally Posted by rodhulk

Actually, though, he was never this powerful due to the, as you said, rectonned, so , in actuallity, TOAA was above the Beyonder.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by #1, though.

#1, Stan Lee (seriously don't you know who he is, he is Marvel.)

TOAA = One with the Multiverse (It's all the Energy in the MU Multiverse combinded)

Beyonder (as stated in the link) at least a million times stronger.

He don't exist anymore (due to retcon) But he left a big footprint.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Not so long ago there was a thread that put up:
Doc. Doom w/ a portion of Classic Beyonders power
vs
Thanos w/ IG
vs
Dark Phoenix

--
It's a shame that most didnt know that Doom was afraid when possessing Beyonder's power.
He didnt even dare to use it, because he didnt want to destroy Multiverses.

[rodhulk]

Originally Posted by SSJ4_Mikael

#1, Stan Lee (seriously don't you know who he is, he is Marvel.)

TOAA = One with the Multiverse (It's all the Energy in the MU Multiverse combinded)

Beyonder (as stated in the link) at least a million times stronger.

He don't exist anymore (due to retcon) But he left a big footprint.

LOL. Yes, yes, I know who Stan Lee is.

But what it seems you are saying is that the Beyonder is as powerful as the writer, unless I missed something.

I also read something that said The Beyonder was never actually that powerful, but was made to think he was, or at least something to that effect. Hence, the retcon. In fact, that's what retcon means, doesn't it?

[rodhulk]

Originally Posted by SSJ4_Mikael

Classic Beyonder (Pre-retcon version)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t412978.html

BTW, I do like this thread and all the scans. Good job.

[Varient]

Originally Posted by SSJ4_Mikael

Classic Beyonder (Pre-retcon version)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t412978.html

Truth,....
(I guess this is one SQ wouldn't defeat unless he wanted to be beat.)

[Harlekin]

Mikael, what is this fascination you have with the most powerful?

[Tropico]

Joey Q is most powerful.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Originally Posted by rodhulk

LOL. Yes, yes, I know who Stan Lee is.

But what it seems you are saying is that the Beyonder is as powerful as the writer, unless I missed something.

I also read something that said The Beyonder was never actually that powerful, but was made to think he was, or at least something to that effect. Hence, the retcon. In fact, that's what retcon means, doesn't it?

He was that powerful, just the retcon says that he wasent.
He was omniversal (power of all there was an everything beyond it), it was too much so they reduced his power.
If he still had that power he would be able to take on every single comic character ever at the same time.

The fact that you don't think he's that strong is because he greatly supressed his power from time to time. (Before retcon)

Yes, Stan Lee said that the Beyonder is supose to have the same kind of power over the comics as the writer had, erease, create, remake nothing was impossible for him.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Originally Posted by Harlekin

Mikael, what is this fascination you have with the most powerful?

Like Cesar, Napoleon and the other conqueror's I like power.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Originally Posted by Tropico

Joey Q is most powerful.

No, C. Beyonder's power was beyond everything, his power wouldent work unless Beyonder wanted it to do so.
Guess Q would end up like a chewing gum.

[rodhulk]

Originally Posted by SSJ4_Mikael

He was that powerful, just the retcon says that he wasent.
He was omniversal (power of all there was an everything beyond it), it was too much so they reduced his power.
If he still had that power he would be able to take on every single comic character ever at the same time.

The fact that you don't think he's that strong is because he greatly supressed his power from time to time. (Before retcon)

Yes, Stan Lee said that the Beyonder is supose to have the same kind of power over the comics as the writer had, erease, create, remake nothing was impossible for him.

I'm sure Stan Lee didn't mean it in the way you might think he meant it. You see, the 'writers' were able to retcon him, so the writers are above him. Plus, you said that the Beyonder could do anything a writer could, create, erase, etc... But the Beyonder only did that if the 'writer' wrote it in that he did it. If the writer didn't write it in, he wouldn't have done it. That means, the 'writer' over the 'Beyonder.' The Beyonder's fictional anyway, so why am I even discussing this........... > me

I'm not sure where I read it (though it is a named source, I believe), but as I said in my previous post, the Beyonder was only made to think he had this power, he really didn't. Hence, the retcon.

But, yeah, before it was made known that he never really had this power, when it seemed he did, the Beyonder was unstoppable.

[Sentry2005]

Originally Posted by SSJ4_Mikael

Like Cesar, Napoleon and the other conqueror's I like power.

So, just out of curiosity, who would you be out of David and Goliath?

[Kotagg]

And which "Cesar" are we talking about?

[Tropico]

Originally Posted by SSJ4_Mikael

No, C. Beyonder's power was beyond everything, his power wouldent work unless Beyonder wanted it to do so.
Guess Q would end up like a chewing gum.

No, Joey Q is more powerfuller. He doesn't even have to make the Beyonder the weakest character in Marvel history himself, he can order someone else to do it. Such is the power of the triple chin!

[Anubis]

I was gonna say Jack Kirby, but Joe Q may actually trump him. He has the power to destroy all of his creations and there aint a thing the King could do.

[Jplaya2023]

Marvel: Spiderman not because of his strength but because of will and how he wont let down his family or friends

DC: Batman - His mind makes him superior to everyone in DC.