After re-watching "Transformers the Movie" Last Night

[blackcobra]

What a ****ing abomination. Michael Bay couldn't damage the franchise as much as that movie did. They took the heart and soul, out of the most prized franchise of it's time, and riped it to oblivion. Im sorry but you can't have a true Transfomers Movie by killing off the Characters that made the series what it was. Killing Prime, Starscream, Megatron (I know, but Galvatron Sucks compared to Megs) Prowl, Iron Hide, Wheeljack, Skywarp, Thundercracker, basically the main cast. Then replaced it with a bunch of newcomers. They were ok, but I rather have Ironhide and Wheel jack instead of Hotrod, Blur, Arcee and Kup. So to everyone who's saying Michael Bay is a hack. Just remember what that Movie did to the franchise. It was all downhill after that movie. Once they realized the errors they made. They tried to bring Starscream & Prime back, but it was to late, the ratings were dismal, and the show was cancelled.

[JStorm]

So when major characters die in a story/show/movie that you like, the movie automatically sucks?

[Golgo-13]

LOL! I'm watching it right now! And yes as much as i love the movie, i do agree that killing off the main characters was a ridiculous mistake. The Tf franchise as a whole went downhill from then on. It's like killing off Jack Bauer from the show '24', or Jennifer Garner character from 'Alias' and expect people to keep watching.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by blackcobra

What a ****ing abomination. Michael Bay couldn't damage the franchise as much as that movie did. They took the heart and soul, out of the most prized franchise of it's time, and riped it to oblivion. Im sorry but you can't have a true Transfomers Movie by killing off the Characters that made the series what it was. Killing Prime, Starscream, Megatron (I know, but Galvatron Sucks compared to Megs) Prowl, Iron Hide, Wheeljack, Skywarp, Thundercracker, basically the main cast. Then replaced it with a bunch of newcomers. They were ok, but I rather have Ironhide and Wheel jack instead of Hotrod, Blur, Arcee and Kup. So to everyone who's saying Michael Bay is a hack. Just remember what that Movie did to the franchise. It was all downhill after that movie. Once they realized the errors they made. They tried to bring Starscream & Prime back, but it was to late, the ratings were dismal, and the show was cancelled.

Not only that, Also the controversy surrounding one of the episodes in the shows third season after that movie, Cause Casey Kaysem to quite the show causing Cliffjumper to never be heard from again.

[Spark]

I don't think they should've killed everyone off either but some of those new characters became fan favourites, and if you think toy politics hasn't effected the designs in this movie you're living in cloud cuckoo land. Notice how even simple colour scheme decisions were screwed up to distinguish them from the originals.

Infact I'm amazed Brawl will be a double turreted green tank.

[Destructicus]

If you want to ***** about the movie so much watch the japanese episodes of old school transformers. The japanese transformers line never saw the movie so everyone that died in the movie was still in the show. I liked that some of the guys died, but if they could bring Prime back then they could of brought some of the old ones back. I would of liked to see Prowl and Iron Hide get fixed by the quintison. Btw I still liked the movie.

[zer00]

...wow. That was an interesting post.

oooo Optimus died. oooooooo

oh whatever happened to artistic integrity and showing a good story. Prime dying and the autobots having to function without him

meh people died. It was a story. It's toys. Granted Rodimus does suck.

[shigsy2003]

While it does suck that most of the awesome characters died (hey they left the Dinobots alone so I was happy) they had no choice. They wanted to introduce a new line of toys and you ain't doing that with Prime and the lads still running about. Not a good justification I know but hey thats toys for you

[TigerClaw]

They brought back Optimus Prime in 3 episodes and he was brought back to life in full form in the last two. However, After that show ended, Another one came out after it called Transformers: Headmasters, It took place after the series and featured Spike and his son Daniel as the only human characters. That series had Optimus Prime on it, However in one episode, He was killed off. Unfortunately, This series was never released in the US and was only available in Japan.

Hehehe, "Head"masters...

[Stringer]

If they didnt kill off any characters they would be sacrificing the story. Obviously the makers felt it was time for a change so they killed some characters off, any good writer has to be willing to kill off characters(even main or fan favs) if the story comes to that point.

[undraftedpacker]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

They brought back Optimus Prime in 3 episodes and he was brought back to life in full form in the last two. However, After that show ended, Another one came out after it called Transformers: Headmasters, It took place after the series and featured Spike and his son Daniel as the only human characters. That series had Optimus Prime on it, However in one episode, He was killed off. Unfortunately, This series was never released in the US and was only available in Japan.

Actually I remember a few episodes airing here but then no more.

[Hotwire]

Honestly, what better way to put new characters in without getting to cluttered. Just kill off the old ones.

[Boiiinng]

Originally Posted by blackcobra

What a ****ing abomination. Michael Bay couldn't damage the franchise as much as that movie did. They took the heart and soul, out of the most prized franchise of it's time, and riped it to oblivion. Im sorry but you can't have a true Transfomers Movie by killing off the Characters that made the series what it was. Killing Prime, Starscream, Megatron (I know, but Galvatron Sucks compared to Megs) Prowl, Iron Hide, Wheeljack, Skywarp, Thundercracker, basically the main cast. Then replaced it with a bunch of newcomers. They were ok, but I rather have Ironhide and Wheel jack instead of Hotrod, Blur, Arcee and Kup. So to everyone who's saying Michael Bay is a hack. Just remember what that Movie did to the franchise. It was all downhill after that movie. Once they realized the errors they made. They tried to bring Starscream & Prime back, but it was to late, the ratings were dismal, and the show was cancelled.

It's called drama. Perhaps you should try it some time.

[Mr. Credible]

any movie that plays the touch by stan bush at the end fight scene in the movie automatically does not suck.

[Jimmy, GL]

Originally Posted by Mr. Credible

any movie that plays the touch by stan bush at the end fight scene in the movie automatically does not suck.

And with an awsome intro guitar solo in the main theme of course it's a good movie. (And they used a Wierd Al song in it. "Dare to be Stupid."

The best part of the movie, for me, was the space suits that Sam and his dad had. Those were awsome. Galvatron being voiced by Leanord Nemoy was also very cool. Soundwave was in the movie the whole time right?

[nogster]

i loved that movie when it came out in the cinemas.
i remember being absolutley gutted when prime died.
i wasnt expecting it. same with ironhide, brawn etc..very emotional.
i agree the movie falters a bit once they retreat from earth. but still that opening 30mins were just awesome!
soundwave vs blaster!
constructicons vs dinobots!
the arrival of galvatron!
some great moments.
the season after that didnt grab me like the previous either. the quintessons story was pretty cool but it became a show in new toylines. some hit and some miss.

[collegedudejcr01]

One thing that I thought was strange is that they always blasted each other in the show...yet no one died. Then in the movie when they get blasted they die. I also hated that Optimus died and Megatron really didn't...it always seemed to me that even if Megatron hadn't become Galvatron he still would have survived since he told Starscream before he threw him out of Astrotrain "I still function". That being said I still loved the movie, and can't wait for the Special Edition DVD.

[Stringer]

Well Megatron didnt take 6 blasts to the chest like Prime did, but I see your point.

[The Kid]

I didn't like this movie either. this new one looks to be a little better but really the designs of the robots and vehicles are rather disheartening for me personally. I'll see it but golly I didn't expect them to go out of that far and changing them into bionicle toys etc.

[nosebleed.]

I remember seeing it in 1986 and it was pretty shocking to see so many autobots get killed. And my fave, Wheeljack, didn't even have an onscreen death...nice tribute. Prime dying really messed me up but I accepted the new bots with no problem. Sure Rodimus was weaksauce compared to Optimus but it was a movie aimed towards kids and everyone knows that kids are more ready to accept new things than their set-in-their-ways parents.

I guess my reaction to the movie would be the same also if I had just watched it for the first time again in 20 years. But I've watched the move more or less regularly over the years and it is now part of my DNA structure.

[Arcturus]

I love Transformers the Movie, and I can't wait for the special edition which is coming out soon.

[ben_reilly_s_s]

Transformers was way longer:

Transformers season 1
Transformers season 2
Transformers The Movie
Transformers season 3
Transformers season 4 - 3 episodes.

Transformers: HeadMasters
Transformers: MasterForce
Transformers: Victory
Transformers: Zone - 1 episode

That is all of Generation 1.

[Destructicus]

Was season four only 3 episodes? I thought it was longer.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by ben_reilly_s_s

Transformers was way longer:

Transformers season 1
Transformers season 2
Transformers The Movie
Transformers season 3
Transformers season 4 - 3 episodes.

Transformers: HeadMasters
Transformers: MasterForce
Transformers: Victory
Transformers: Zone - 1 episode

That is all of Generation 1.

In the US, We only had Season 1, 2, The Movie and Season 3. Season 4, Headmasters, Master Force, Victory, And Zone never got released in the US and are only available in Japan.