The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland

WorthyStevens · 08-24-2006, 12:04 PM

Which noir are you looking forward to seeing the most?

I want to see both, but moreso for TBD. I'm more familiar with the story behind it, and having Scarlett in it doesn't hurt...

Cinemaman · 08-24-2006, 12:11 PM

TBD, it looks like L.A. Confidential, but even greater.

Also, I loved the music from trailer

But I also can't wait for Hollywoodland.

The Chairman · 08-24-2006, 12:14 PM

The Black Dahlia. The trailer was amazing. It almsot gave me chills. And it has:

That being said, Hollywoodland looks quite good as well.

But if I had to choose, I'd give it to TBD.

Ronny Shade · 08-24-2006, 12:15 PM

I'm going to say Hollywoodland, though I wished they would have kept the original title.

DACrowe · 08-24-2006, 12:16 PM

I prefer the story behind Hollywoodland more (as it is slightly more factual on film apparently too though neither are accurate) but BD looks better made, I will admit. Yet, something seems a little...slick about it. I am looking forward to Hollywoodland quite a bit though.

Movies205 · 08-24-2006, 12:18 PM

It's not noir, it could be noir inspired, but a key tennant of noir is it BEING BLACK AND WHITE! Noir is a dead genre like Expressionism, and many others, it died with Touch of Evil in the 60s

Ronny Shade · 08-24-2006, 12:19 PM

Noir isn't defined as being black and white

MrScissorhands · 08-24-2006, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronny Shade

I'm going to say Hollywoodland, though I wished they would have kept the original title.

What was that ?

Ronny Shade · 08-24-2006, 12:20 PM

"Truth, Justice, and the American Way"

Bat Attack · 08-24-2006, 12:21 PM

The Black Dahlia looks so friggen' awesome.

WorthyStevens · 08-24-2006, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movies205

It's not noir, it could be noir inspired, but a key tennant of noir is it BEING BLACK AND WHITE! Noir is a dead genre like Expressionism, and many others, it died with Touch of Evil in the 60s

Definition of noir from Dictionary.com:

noir (nwär)
adj.

Of or relating to the film noir genre.
A genre of crime literature featuring tough, cynical characters and bleak settings.
Suggestive of danger or violence.

Super_Ludacris · 08-24-2006, 12:23 PM

Black Dhalia only confirms to me that Mia Kirshner is a Lesbian ( aint nothig wrong with that) But dag for a straight woman she typecast as a lesbian a lit ( L Word, 24, some random 2002 blockbuster movie I saw, this movie)

Movies205 · 08-24-2006, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorthyStevens4

Definition of noir from Dictionary.com:

noir (nwär)
adj.

Of or relating to the film noir genre.
A genre of crime literature featuring tough, cynical characters and bleak settings.
Suggestive of danger or violence.

Film Noir refers to a period in film, that goes beyond simple the script, it refers to shot values, and even in stories it refers to more than just crime, it also has tenants that must be followed. Noir is dead, now we're in a time of things that are influenced by Noir but are not.

**Hunter Rider** · 08-24-2006, 12:33 PM

Both look excellent but The Black Dahlia has a visual style that appeals to me

Triligors · 08-24-2006, 01:09 PM

Hollywoodland. That's the trailer that gives me chills every time I watch it and a mystery that really interests me.

Eddie Dean · 08-24-2006, 02:48 PM

Hollywoodland looks better, but The Black Dahlia doesn't look bad.

JLBats · 08-24-2006, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movies205

It's not noir, it could be noir inspired, but a key tennant of noir is it BEING BLACK AND WHITE! Noir is a dead genre like Expressionism, and many others, it died with Touch of Evil in the 60s

I disagree. This is a serious misconception. I happen to think that noir lapsed out for a while in the sixties, but the French continued making them, and in the 70s there was a serious revival of noir themes and aesthetics, with colour. What's more important to noir than black and white is the worldview. So, while it might not be considered pure noir, it CAN be noir. There are a lot of movies made post-classical period that have more noir philosophy at the core than some of the originals.

Incidentally, they DO have a term for noir inspired. Neo-Noir.

The Chairman · 08-24-2006, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLBats

I disagree. This is a serious misconception. I happen to think that noir lapsed out for a while in the sixties, but the French continued making them, and in the 70s there was a serious revival of noir themes and aesthetics, with colour. What's more important to noir than black and white is the worldview. So, while it might not be considered pure noir, it CAN be noir. There are a lot of movies made post-classical period that have more noir philosophy at the core than some of the originals.

Incidentally, they DO have a term for noir inspired. Neo-Noir.

Agreed. Just because it's not in black and white does not mean it's entire devoid of film noir elements.

The Chairman · 08-24-2006, 03:33 PM

For anyone interested, here's some links to photos from the film from Scarlett-Fan.com.

http://www.scarlett-fan.com/gallery/...s.php?album=67

and some posters

http://www.scarlett-fan.com/gallery/...album=68&pos=0

GhostRider5006 · 08-24-2006, 03:34 PM

I say Holywoodland.

Poetic Chaos · 08-24-2006, 03:36 PM

Black Dahlia has lesbians.

GhostRider5006 · 08-24-2006, 03:40 PM

Cool.

ToddIsDead · 08-24-2006, 04:08 PM

I'm more interested in Hollywoodland.

mister Lennon · 08-24-2006, 04:08 PM

Not idea because i didnt see any of them, but both looks pretty good.

Triligors · 08-24-2006, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poetic Chaos

Black Dahlia has lesbians.

Lol.

Ok, I admit- maybe I'm a bit immature.

But, still- Hollywoodland wins my vote.

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08-24-2006, 12:04 PM	#1
WorthyStevens Green Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Gobias Industries Posts: 14,247	The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland Which noir are you looking forward to seeing the most? I want to see both, but moreso for TBD. I'm more familiar with the story behind it, and having Scarlett in it doesn't hurt... __________________ FROM THE DESK OF: TOBIAS FUNKE "OFF TO WORK" - T (TOBIAS)

08-24-2006, 12:11 PM	#2
Cinemaman Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hype! Posts: 14,568	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland TBD, it looks like L.A. Confidential, but even greater. Also, I loved the music from trailer But I also can't wait for Hollywoodland. __________________ Hunter Rider is the Best Avvy-Maker... Ever!

08-24-2006, 12:14 PM	#3
The Chairman Pimps' Main Prophet Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Down in the Jackson Cage Posts: 18,822	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland The Black Dahlia. The trailer was amazing. It almsot gave me chills. And it has: That being said, Hollywoodland looks quite good as well. But if I had to choose, I'd give it to TBD. __________________ "The world better prepare, for when I'm a billionaire" - Bernie Madoff

08-24-2006, 12:15 PM	#4
Ronny Shade back for a limited time Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: was borderline for a while then crossed the border Posts: 18,768	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland I'm going to say Hollywoodland, though I wished they would have kept the original title. __________________ /'GBZs we rockin hard. Lock it down like Scotland yard" -Bredd Loaf

08-24-2006, 12:16 PM	#5
DACrowe Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 24,843	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland I prefer the story behind Hollywoodland more (as it is slightly more factual on film apparently too though neither are accurate) but BD looks better made, I will admit. Yet, something seems a little...slick about it. I am looking forward to Hollywoodland quite a bit though.

08-24-2006, 12:19 PM	#7
Ronny Shade back for a limited time Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: was borderline for a while then crossed the border Posts: 18,768	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland Noir isn't defined as being black and white __________________ /'GBZs we rockin hard. Lock it down like Scotland yard" -Bredd Loaf

08-24-2006, 12:20 PM	#9
Ronny Shade back for a limited time Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: was borderline for a while then crossed the border Posts: 18,768	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" __________________ /'GBZs we rockin hard. Lock it down like Scotland yard" -Bredd Loaf

08-24-2006, 12:21 PM	#10
Bat Attack Mirth Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United States Posts: 14,173	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland The Black Dahlia looks so friggen' awesome.

08-24-2006, 12:23 PM	#12
Super_Ludacris Banned User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC, reppin Barack and them Air Pennys' are on sale Posts: 19,927	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland Black Dhalia only confirms to me that Mia Kirshner is a Lesbian ( aint nothig wrong with that) But dag for a straight woman she typecast as a lesbian a lit ( L Word, 24, some random 2002 blockbuster movie I saw, this movie)

08-24-2006, 12:33 PM	#14
Hunter Rider Ronin SHH! Administrator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Camp Manuel Posts: 122,437	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland Both look excellent but The Black Dahlia has a visual style that appeals to me __________________ thinkmcflythink.com Movie fans, hop in your Delorean and check it out! "Now this life is etched in black but I wont be looking back, the rain washed out the tracks, I'll never find again"

08-24-2006, 01:09 PM	#15
Triligors Banned User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Gotham City Posts: 3,159	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland Hollywoodland. That's the trailer that gives me chills every time I watch it and a mystery that really interests me.

08-24-2006, 02:48 PM	#16
Eddie Dean [sad beep] Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pangaea Posts: 5,362	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland Hollywoodland looks better, but The Black Dahlia doesn't look bad. __________________ “I'm a hustler. I don't get tired. I'm 26, chief.”

08-24-2006, 03:33 PM	#19
The Chairman Pimps' Main Prophet Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Down in the Jackson Cage Posts: 18,822	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland For anyone interested, here's some links to photos from the film from Scarlett-Fan.com. http://www.scarlett-fan.com/gallery/...s.php?album=67 and some posters http://www.scarlett-fan.com/gallery/...album=68&pos=0 __________________ "The world better prepare, for when I'm a billionaire" - Bernie Madoff

08-24-2006, 03:34 PM	#20
GhostRider5006 Side-Kick Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cold Ontairio Canada. Hey Thats my...... Posts: 1,479	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland I say Holywoodland. __________________ FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST"May the force be with you father" "And also with you" "We now read a gosspel from acording to Luke"

08-24-2006, 03:36 PM	#21
Poetic Chaos Hella fetch. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NorCal Posts: 5,864	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland Black Dahlia has lesbians.

08-24-2006, 03:40 PM	#22
GhostRider5006 Side-Kick Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cold Ontairio Canada. Hey Thats my...... Posts: 1,479	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland Cool. __________________ FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST"May the force be with you father" "And also with you" "We now read a gosspel from acording to Luke"

08-24-2006, 04:08 PM	#23
ToddIsDead Banned User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Gamer Rejects Posts: 7,117	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland I'm more interested in Hollywoodland.

08-24-2006, 04:08 PM	#24
mister Lennon Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Liverpool Posts: 955	Re: The Black Dahlia or Hollywoodland Not idea because i didnt see any of them, but both looks pretty good. __________________ The beatles, best band ever. John Lennon, the music genious of all time. Julie Christie, Most lovely british actress of all time.

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