Hans Zimmer or James Newton Howard?

Fenrir · 08-30-2006, 06:50 PM

First of all, I think it was a miracle these two great composers were able to find time in their schedules to collaborate on Batman Begins. But seeing as they are both constantly in so much demand in the industry, there is a chance that The Dark Knight might not be so lucky to have a reunion of their partnership. In such a case, which one would you most likely want to take over the score composing duties for the Batman Begins sequel?

xwolverine2 · 08-30-2006, 06:59 PM

both

batlovescatDC · 08-30-2006, 06:59 PM

James Newton Howard... without a doubt.

batlovescatDC · 08-30-2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by xwolverine2

both

The question is..... IF THEY "BOTH" DON'T COME BACK... BUT ONE DOES... WHICH ONE WOULD YOU PREFER?

DV8 · 08-30-2006, 07:10 PM

didn't one of them not deliver the goods on time, and then the other one came in and finished?!?

Super_Ludacris · 08-30-2006, 07:14 PM

Both

Katsuro · 08-30-2006, 07:17 PM

This should've been a poll, with not "both" option.

Thespiralgoeson · 08-30-2006, 07:24 PM

Philip Glass (in my dreams)

Paradoxium · 08-30-2006, 07:36 PM

Realistically, James Newton Howard. Zimmer was reluctant to do the Batman Begins score and he even said he would only do another Batman movie if it is a different film from Begins. Otherwise Zimmer avoid franchises like the plague.

That said Newton Howard, is not chopped liver. But If it were up to me, I say scrap these two and get Howard Shore.

Saint · 08-30-2006, 07:38 PM

I would prefer Howard if both do not return.

DV8 · 08-30-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Paradoxium

Otherwise Zimmer avoid franchises like the plague.

Not so fast . . . he's doing both new Pirates flicks . . .

DV8 · 08-30-2006, 07:46 PM

who did what in Begins anyway? I mean, was it a full-on collaboration, or were some themes composed by one and not the other!?!

seriously, I thought that whoever was first hired for the gig didn't work out and left the reigns to the next guy . . .

Secret_Riddle · 08-30-2006, 07:46 PM

well id love both but i think james newton howard may have the advantage over zimmer.id like to know what parts of the score were done by who before answering though.

DV8 · 08-30-2006, 07:55 PM

okay . . . from what I've learned on IMDB, it seems that Howard did most of the emotional stuff, while Zimmer stuck to the action; both of the respecitive catergories being their strong-points; also according to one IMDB source (I know, I know, it's IMD-fuackin B), the collaboration was something that the both of them had been wanting to do . . . . hopefully they'll both come back . . . .

Katsuro · 08-30-2006, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DV8

who did what in Begins anyway? I mean, was it a full-on collaboration, or were some themes composed by one and not the other!?!

seriously, I thought that whoever was first hired for the gig didn't work out and left the reigns to the next guy . . .

It was a full collaboration. I read an interview with one of them where they said that there's not a single track in the movie that doens't have some elements from each composer. They worked on it together completley.

DV8 · 08-30-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Katsuro

It was a full collaboration. I read an interview with one of them where they said that there's not a single track in the movie that doens't have some elements from each composer. They worked on it together completley.

thanks for elaborating . . .

Paradoxium · 08-30-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DV8

Not so fast . . . he's doing both new Pirates flicks . . .

Which is shot consecutively, so retaining certain arrangements is important (and less time consuming)... Moreover he did not do the first pirates and he is chums with Jerry Bruckheimer.

INVAR · 08-31-2006, 01:20 AM

I posted this on another thread - but perfectly fitting here on this one as well.

I think the music for BTAS and especially Mask of the Phantasm is an excellent benchmark for Batman in the gritty realism sense.

For the Dark Knight - I would love it if Nolan dumped Hans Zimmer and let James Newton Howard do the entire score. There would be continuity to a degree in doing so with Batman Begins, but I think he would take Batman to what most of us Batman fans consider to be a signature music style given what was done in TAS. His music would probably come closer to what Shirley Walker did with MOTP - and he has an impeccable talent for using gothic choir with full orchestra.

If you can grab and listen to 'Tarawa" from 'Snow on White Cedars', or even 'The Great Eatlon' from 'Lady in the Water' scores, you can get a taste of what Newton-Howard might be able to bring to the Dark Knight table - and make many of us fans even happier, seeing that while we do like the music in Batman Begins, many of us think that was the weakest aspect of the movie.

Fenrir · 08-31-2006, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katsuro

This should've been a poll, with not "both" option.

Done.

Fenrir · 08-31-2006, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DV8

didn't one of them not deliver the goods on time, and then the other one came in and finished?!?

Where did you hear that? And who did not deliver the goods on time?

Mr. Superhero · 08-31-2006, 06:04 AM

Well, this is pretty tricky.

I'd probably choose Hans Zimmer, because I hardly know anything about this Newton fella.

Zimmer's composed some decent tracks in his time - so he gets my vote.

CConn · 08-31-2006, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DV8

didn't one of them not deliver the goods on time, and then the other one came in and finished?!?

That sorta sounds like what happened with SM2's score with Danny Elfman and...that some other guy.

Super_Ludacris · 08-31-2006, 06:16 AM

Newton's done some good scores too I think I have seen in his name for other stuff

Two-Face · 08-31-2006, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenrir

First of all, I think it was a miracle these two great composers were able to find time in their schedules to collaborate on Batman Begins. But seeing as they are both constantly in so much demand in the industry, there is a chance that The Dark Knight might not be so lucky to have a reunion of their partnership. In such a case, which one would you most likely want to take over the score composing duties for the Batman Begins sequel?

You forgot the "both" option and I want them both to return.

Fenrir · 08-31-2006, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Face

You forgot the "both" option and I want them both to return.

No I didn't, because this thread is about the hypothetical question "WHAT IF one them DOES NOT return?". Adding a "both" option would be pointless.

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DV8 Band Loser Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Behind Your Mom Posts: 10,203	Re: Hans Zimmer or James Newton Howard? okay . . . from what I've learned on IMDB, it seems that Howard did most of the emotional stuff, while Zimmer stuck to the action; both of the respecitive catergories being their strong-points; also according to one IMDB source (I know, I know, it's IMD-fuackin B), the collaboration was something that the both of them had been wanting to do . . . . hopefully they'll both come back . . . . __________________ None of these are appropriate for here, your love of sex banter and penis chat is not gonna fly-Hunter Rider avvy compliments of Duende Verde

08-31-2006, 01:20 AM	#18
INVAR Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 53	Re: Hans Zimmer or James Newton Howard? I posted this on another thread - but perfectly fitting here on this one as well. I think the music for BTAS and especially Mask of the Phantasm is an excellent benchmark for Batman in the gritty realism sense. For the Dark Knight - I would love it if Nolan dumped Hans Zimmer and let James Newton Howard do the entire score. There would be continuity to a degree in doing so with Batman Begins, but I think he would take Batman to what most of us Batman fans consider to be a signature music style given what was done in TAS. His music would probably come closer to what Shirley Walker did with MOTP - and he has an impeccable talent for using gothic choir with full orchestra. If you can grab and listen to 'Tarawa" from 'Snow on White Cedars', or even 'The Great Eatlon' from 'Lady in the Water' scores, you can get a taste of what Newton-Howard might be able to bring to the Dark Knight table - and make many of us fans even happier, seeing that while we do like the music in Batman Begins, many of us think that was the weakest aspect of the movie.

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Mr. Superhero Banned User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,647	Re: Hans Zimmer or James Newton Howard? Well, this is pretty tricky. I'd probably choose Hans Zimmer, because I hardly know anything about this Newton fella. Zimmer's composed some decent tracks in his time - so he gets my vote.

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