Pride of Baghdad - Page 3

Darthphere · 11-15-2006, 02:40 PM

Yeah, too bad I dont live anywhere near Michigan.

SpideyInATree · 11-15-2006, 06:16 PM

It should be in Pittsburgh, but that's just my personal opinion.

Assassin · 11-15-2006, 10:36 PM

Many Arabs in Pittsburg?

BrianWilly · 11-16-2006, 01:16 AM

Loved this book. Political allegory could get a bit heavy-handed (don't they always?) but it was genuinely intelligent and moving and skillfully written. And funny.

"I'm not a hunter. I'm a fighter."

Motown Marvel · 11-16-2006, 02:23 AM

whats the cover price on this book?

Assassin · 11-16-2006, 02:25 AM

20 i believe

Darthphere · 11-16-2006, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianWilly

Loved this book. Political allegory could get a bit heavy-handed (don't they always?) but it was genuinely intelligent and moving and skillfully written. And funny.

"I'm not a hunter. I'm a fighter."

You know something, ive been hearing that a lot, and I just dont see it. I see the allegory, im not blind but it doesnt seem one sided at all and really its not slapping you across the face like Ultimates or something. Like some people complained that *spoiler*

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

But, thats how the true story ended. WTF?

BrianWilly · 11-16-2006, 04:10 PM

I personally thought it was because, throughout the story, all these obviously political comments would suddenly pop up out of nowhere. It felt kinda jarring.

Ali: "I'm hungry."
Noor: "You're hungry because they TOOK AWAY OUR FREEDOM."

Safa: "Attack the bastard!"
Fajer: "You only attack me because you are ignorant and ungrateful radicals who do not understand the sociopolitical climate of the world!"

Okay, so I paraphrase...a bit

. And I get that it's the whole point Vaughan was trying to make in the first place, so it's not like I can say I didn't see it coming. Anyway it's basically like watching MTV and the hoochies doing everything in sight, but then periodically having Judd Winick show up and tell them they all have AIDS now. Of course you realize in retrospect that the show was called "True Life: Hoochies and AIDS" but it's still a bit heavyhanded.

Shhh, it's a perfect metaphor

.

SpideyInATree · 11-16-2006, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Assassin

Many Arabs in Pittsburg?

Actually there is a decent population of them around here.

Assassin · 11-18-2006, 10:54 PM

he's a cool guy, after the signing he went back to the comic shop where they had cake, beer and pop while u could talk to him in person,

Assassin · 11-18-2006, 10:55 PM

the pic is on my myspace, if you have my myspace..

SpideyInATree · 11-19-2006, 09:20 AM

You lucky SOB. I'd kill to have cake, beer, and pop with BKV. But don't worry...I'm slowly working on some quantum physics and soon I'll be able to time travel into other peoples lives. I'll make sure to "leap" into you during the BKV signing. I'll get to experience the awesomeness of it all and you won't.

Did you ask him if he was going to be doing anything with Spider-Man?

Kitsune · 11-19-2006, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianWilly

Ali: "I'm hungry."
Noor: "You're hungry because they TOOK AWAY OUR FREEDOM."

Safa: "Attack the bastard!"
Fajer: "You only attack me because you are ignorant and ungrateful radicals who do not understand the sociopolitical climate of the world!"

This sounds like something Akbar and Jeff would say in Matt Groenings Life in Hell

Darthphere · 11-19-2006, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianWilly

I personally thought it was because, throughout the story, all these obviously political comments would suddenly pop up out of nowhere. It felt kinda jarring.

Ali: "I'm hungry."
Noor: "You're hungry because they TOOK AWAY OUR FREEDOM."

Safa: "Attack the bastard!"
Fajer: "You only attack me because you are ignorant and ungrateful radicals who do not understand the sociopolitical climate of the world!"

Okay, so I paraphrase...a bit

. And I get that it's the whole point Vaughan was trying to make in the first place, so it's not like I can say I didn't see it coming. Anyway it's basically like watching MTV and the hoochies doing everything in sight, but then periodically having Judd Winick show up and tell them they all have AIDS now. Of course you realize in retrospect that the show was called "True Life: Hoochies and AIDS" but it's still a bit heavyhanded.

Shhh, it's a perfect metaphor

.

I didnt see that at all. I guess its like those kids who read ultimates and claim there isnt any political allegory.

DarkNick · 11-20-2006, 03:32 AM

I was considering ordering it after reading a few "in the same category as Watchmen" reviews. But to be honest it doesn't really interest me.

Given the comments in this thread, I might give it a miss. Thanks for saving me some money. Wish I had visited forums like this before ordering The Dark Knight Strikes Back.

Assassin · 11-20-2006, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpideyInATree

You lucky SOB. I'd kill to have cake, beer, and pop with BKV. But don't worry...I'm slowly working on some quantum physics and soon I'll be able to time travel into other peoples lives. I'll make sure to "leap" into you during the BKV signing. I'll get to experience the awesomeness of it all and you won't.

Did you ask him if he was going to be doing anything with Spider-Man?

no, because i hate spiderman, i asked him if hes ever gonna do DC superheros he said he did 2 or 3 issues of batman and considers it his best work (superhero comics i think he ment). I have to hunt thoughs down, I told him that i havent read anything from him except Pride but i did buy Y the last man 1 and 2 and he signed them for me, issue 60 will be the last. I actually read them both last night, i'm going to the comic shop to get 2 more later today.

SpideyInATree · 11-21-2006, 05:44 PM

Yeah, Y The Last Man is really addictive.

And remember...Spider-Man hates you too.

11-15-2006, 02:40 PM	#51
Darthphere Kneel before 'Drox! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Phantom Zone Posts: 81,978	Re: Pride of Baghdad Yeah, too bad I dont live anywhere near Michigan. __________________ "When I was in college, I was belittling the woman who later become my wife for not knowing who Boba Fett was, and she responded by asking me if I knew who the Prime Minister of Israel was. Surprisingly? Not Mon Mothma."-BKV

11-15-2006, 06:16 PM	#52
SpideyInATree Never Go Full Retard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 24,228	Re: Pride of Baghdad It should be in Pittsburgh, but that's just my personal opinion. __________________ If you're into industrial metal or hard rock, or if you're looking for some new music to listen to. Check out a new band called GlitchPoint. http://www.glitchpoint.com Check out their song Ignition

11-15-2006, 10:36 PM	#53
Assassin Detroit's Reckoning Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 18,942	Re: Pride of Baghdad Many Arabs in Pittsburg? __________________ Theatricality and deception are powerful agents against the un-initiated, but we are initiated, aren't we Bruce?

11-16-2006, 01:16 AM	#54
BrianWilly Disciple of Whedon Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Church of Joss Posts: 13,498	Re: Pride of Baghdad Loved this book. Political allegory could get a bit heavy-handed (don't they always?) but it was genuinely intelligent and moving and skillfully written. And funny. "I'm not a hunter. I'm a fighter." __________________ I'll kick down the walls around me; they don't know how strong I am I'm not defined by boundaries; they could never understand, I'm so much more than status quo I am a Starship Ranger! I'm gonna do everything I can to always be a Starship Ranger; it's everything I am!

11-16-2006, 02:23 AM	#55
Motown Marvel Crimson and Clover Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Detroit Rock City Posts: 20,206	Re: Pride of Baghdad whats the cover price on this book? __________________ Dear Prudence, won't you come out and play?

11-16-2006, 02:25 AM	#56
Assassin Detroit's Reckoning Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 18,942	Re: Pride of Baghdad 20 i believe __________________ Theatricality and deception are powerful agents against the un-initiated, but we are initiated, aren't we Bruce?

11-16-2006, 04:10 PM	#58
BrianWilly Disciple of Whedon Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Church of Joss Posts: 13,498	Re: Pride of Baghdad I personally thought it was because, throughout the story, all these obviously political comments would suddenly pop up out of nowhere. It felt kinda jarring. Ali: "I'm hungry." Noor: "You're hungry because they TOOK AWAY OUR FREEDOM." Safa: "Attack the bastard!" Fajer: "You only attack me because you are ignorant and ungrateful radicals who do not understand the sociopolitical climate of the world!" Okay, so I paraphrase...a bit. And I get that it's the whole point Vaughan was trying to make in the first place, so it's not like I can say I didn't see it coming. Anyway it's basically like watching MTV and the hoochies doing everything in sight, but then periodically having Judd Winick show up and tell them they all have AIDS now. Of course you realize in retrospect that the show was called "True Life: Hoochies and AIDS" but it's still a bit heavyhanded. Shhh, it's a perfect metaphor. __________________ I'll kick down the walls around me; they don't know how strong I am I'm not defined by boundaries; they could never understand, I'm so much more than status quo I am a Starship Ranger! I'm gonna do everything I can to always be a Starship Ranger; it's everything I am! Last edited by BrianWilly; 11-16-2006 at 04:19 PM.

11-18-2006, 10:54 PM	#60
Assassin Detroit's Reckoning Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 18,942	Re: Pride of Baghdad he's a cool guy, after the signing he went back to the comic shop where they had cake, beer and pop while u could talk to him in person, __________________ Theatricality and deception are powerful agents against the un-initiated, but we are initiated, aren't we Bruce?

11-18-2006, 10:55 PM	#61
Assassin Detroit's Reckoning Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 18,942	Re: Pride of Baghdad the pic is on my myspace, if you have my myspace.. __________________ Theatricality and deception are powerful agents against the un-initiated, but we are initiated, aren't we Bruce?

11-19-2006, 09:20 AM	#62
SpideyInATree Never Go Full Retard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 24,228	Re: Pride of Baghdad You lucky SOB. I'd kill to have cake, beer, and pop with BKV. But don't worry...I'm slowly working on some quantum physics and soon I'll be able to time travel into other peoples lives. I'll make sure to "leap" into you during the BKV signing. I'll get to experience the awesomeness of it all and you won't. Did you ask him if he was going to be doing anything with Spider-Man? __________________ If you're into industrial metal or hard rock, or if you're looking for some new music to listen to. Check out a new band called GlitchPoint. http://www.glitchpoint.com Check out their song Ignition

11-20-2006, 03:32 AM	#65
DarkNick Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 31	Re: Pride of Baghdad I was considering ordering it after reading a few "in the same category as Watchmen" reviews. But to be honest it doesn't really interest me. Given the comments in this thread, I might give it a miss. Thanks for saving me some money. Wish I had visited forums like this before ordering The Dark Knight Strikes Back.

11-21-2006, 05:44 PM	#67
SpideyInATree Never Go Full Retard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 24,228	Re: Pride of Baghdad Yeah, Y The Last Man is really addictive. And remember...Spider-Man hates you too. __________________ If you're into industrial metal or hard rock, or if you're looking for some new music to listen to. Check out a new band called GlitchPoint. http://www.glitchpoint.com Check out their song Ignition

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