Highlights from the Superman The Movie DVD

ultimatefan · 11-12-2006, 11:31 AM

It´s been released here in Brazil on november 9, along with SR. Here´s some highlights:

- Ilya Salkind does commentary for the movie and he quite vehemently denies that he and his father Alex wanted to do a campy, Adam West-like Superman movie. He claims their main inspiration was epic heroes like Ben Hur and El Cid. Yet, he´s very vague about the reasons for firing Donner. He even kinda shrugs off the thing about Telly Savalas being on a draft of the script. On an extra, Donner insists that the script was very campy when he came onboard.

- On the extras, It´s sort of implied that his firing was related to the first movie going over schedule and budget, even though Donner was never informed of how much the budget actually was supposed to be, apparently.

- You hear a lot of the stories hardcore fanboys are probably familiar with, like Cassius Clay and Dustin Hoffman being in a "pre-approved" list of actors to play Supes, Redford turning it down, how Donner pretended to have a moustache to convince Hackman to shave his one, how Chris Reeve was initially dismissed cuz he was skinny like a stick, etc.

- One of the best extras describes the complex optical FX used to create the illusion of Supes flying. The "zoptic" tchnique is explained in great detail. There´s hilarious footage of ridiculous attempts to fake the flying with models, animation, etc.

- Kidder talks about how he and Reeve bickered all the time between takes cuz he was very much the method always in character actor, while Kidder was more "relaxed".

- There´s an old making of with some interesting stuff. You see Reeve at the gym. His chest was considerably more defined than the suit shows, which makes it understandable why modern superhero suits use some padding, even when the actors are in shape. A sad moment is Hackman talking about the risk of typecasting and how he felt Reeve was the guy to overcome that, sigh...

- There are two very cool restored unused scenes. One is Jor-El explaining to Supes why he needs a secret identity. The other is Lex trying to stop Supes from invading his hideout with machine guns, fire and ice.

- It includes some old Superman stuff. The best is episodes of the Fleischer studios cartoon, including classics like Mechanical Monsters - which inspired Sky Captain - and Electric Earthquake - the bad guy is a native American claiming that Manhattan belongs to his people, how anti-PC is that? There´s also Superman and The Mole Men. There´s barely any action and the FX are of course laughable now, but it´s interesting how the "monsters" are actually not the threat, but small-minded hillbillies, pretty bold for 1948. Clark and Lois were more bickering and competitive, and she kinda came off as a bitsch...

ultimatefan · 11-12-2006, 04:07 PM

BTW, whoever says "Singer´s realism sux, Donner didn´t care about that" couldn´t be talking more out of their asses. Realism and verisimilitude were badges of honor to Donner.

MST3KPIMP · 11-17-2006, 06:48 PM

So if you have the 2001 expanded STM what does this set offer in terms of extras? I like the idea of having the theatrical cut as it will have the soundtrack as i remember it but is there anything in addition to or missing from this set? Can I sell the dvd I have now and expect to get it all in this set?

captain_jimbo · 11-18-2006, 06:28 AM

I think so yeah, basically everything in the 2001 version, which I also have will be included in the mammoth 4-disc DVD of Superman: The Movie.

Kevin Roegele · 11-18-2006, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultimatefan

- There are two very cool restored unused scenes. One is Jor-El explaining to Supes why he needs a secret identity. The other is Lex trying to stop Supes from invading his hideout with machine guns, fire and ice.

Both these scenes are used in the 2001 special edition of the movie.

buggs0268 · 11-18-2006, 01:00 PM

I think this version is a new transfer so it will be better looking then the 2001 version

captain_jimbo · 11-19-2006, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggs0268

I think this version is a new transfer so it will be better looking then the 2001 version

Oh that would be great if it was even better.

MST3KPIMP · 11-20-2006, 12:34 PM

SOAB! I just read at capedwonder.com that the theatrical cut of Superman 1
that you get in the new sets does NOT feature the origonal sound mix but that new fandangled mix from the 2001 SE. I am very dissapointed by this news. I really didnt like the new sound effects during the opening credits and in the film.

captain_jimbo · 11-27-2006, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MST3KPIMP

SOAB! I just read at capedwonder.com that the theatrical cut of Superman 1
that you get in the new sets does NOT feature the origonal sound mix but that new fandangled mix from the 2001 SE. I am very dissapointed by this news. I really didnt like the new sound effects during the opening credits and in the film.

Really? I love it. But apparently, Donner said in an interview a while ago that they didn't add anything, they just enhanced it and made it clearer and louder.

11-12-2006, 11:31 AM	#1
ultimatefan The Batman must come back Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Place that makes Gotham look like Kansas - Brazil Posts: 38,117	Highlights from the Superman The Movie DVD It´s been released here in Brazil on november 9, along with SR. Here´s some highlights: - Ilya Salkind does commentary for the movie and he quite vehemently denies that he and his father Alex wanted to do a campy, Adam West-like Superman movie. He claims their main inspiration was epic heroes like Ben Hur and El Cid. Yet, he´s very vague about the reasons for firing Donner. He even kinda shrugs off the thing about Telly Savalas being on a draft of the script. On an extra, Donner insists that the script was very campy when he came onboard. - On the extras, It´s sort of implied that his firing was related to the first movie going over schedule and budget, even though Donner was never informed of how much the budget actually was supposed to be, apparently. - You hear a lot of the stories hardcore fanboys are probably familiar with, like Cassius Clay and Dustin Hoffman being in a "pre-approved" list of actors to play Supes, Redford turning it down, how Donner pretended to have a moustache to convince Hackman to shave his one, how Chris Reeve was initially dismissed cuz he was skinny like a stick, etc. - One of the best extras describes the complex optical FX used to create the illusion of Supes flying. The "zoptic" tchnique is explained in great detail. There´s hilarious footage of ridiculous attempts to fake the flying with models, animation, etc. - Kidder talks about how he and Reeve bickered all the time between takes cuz he was very much the method always in character actor, while Kidder was more "relaxed". - There´s an old making of with some interesting stuff. You see Reeve at the gym. His chest was considerably more defined than the suit shows, which makes it understandable why modern superhero suits use some padding, even when the actors are in shape. A sad moment is Hackman talking about the risk of typecasting and how he felt Reeve was the guy to overcome that, sigh... - There are two very cool restored unused scenes. One is Jor-El explaining to Supes why he needs a secret identity. The other is Lex trying to stop Supes from invading his hideout with machine guns, fire and ice. - It includes some old Superman stuff. The best is episodes of the Fleischer studios cartoon, including classics like Mechanical Monsters - which inspired Sky Captain - and Electric Earthquake - the bad guy is a native American claiming that Manhattan belongs to his people, how anti-PC is that? There´s also Superman and The Mole Men. There´s barely any action and the FX are of course laughable now, but it´s interesting how the "monsters" are actually not the threat, but small-minded hillbillies, pretty bold for 1948. Clark and Lois were more bickering and competitive, and she kinda came off as a bitsch... __________________ AVVY BY KANE 52630 "Sometimes, people deserve more. Sometimes, they deserve to have their faith rewarded." So, thank you for rewarding mine, Mr. Nolan. This article should be mandatory reading before people argue about movies on the internet: http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-common...-always-wrong/.

11-12-2006, 04:07 PM	#2
ultimatefan The Batman must come back Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Place that makes Gotham look like Kansas - Brazil Posts: 38,117	Re: Highlights from the Superman The Movie DVD BTW, whoever says "Singer´s realism sux, Donner didn´t care about that" couldn´t be talking more out of their asses. Realism and verisimilitude were badges of honor to Donner. __________________ AVVY BY KANE 52630 "Sometimes, people deserve more. Sometimes, they deserve to have their faith rewarded." So, thank you for rewarding mine, Mr. Nolan. This article should be mandatory reading before people argue about movies on the internet: http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-common...-always-wrong/.

11-17-2006, 06:48 PM	#3
MST3KPIMP Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In Your General Area Posts: 2,290	Re: Highlights from the Superman The Movie DVD So if you have the 2001 expanded STM what does this set offer in terms of extras? I like the idea of having the theatrical cut as it will have the soundtrack as i remember it but is there anything in addition to or missing from this set? Can I sell the dvd I have now and expect to get it all in this set?

11-18-2006, 06:28 AM	#4
captain_jimbo I love Star Trek XI Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,141	Re: Highlights from the Superman The Movie DVD I think so yeah, basically everything in the 2001 version, which I also have will be included in the mammoth 4-disc DVD of Superman: The Movie.

11-18-2006, 01:00 PM	#6
buggs0268 Banned User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,246	Re: Highlights from the Superman The Movie DVD I think this version is a new transfer so it will be better looking then the 2001 version

11-20-2006, 12:34 PM	#8
MST3KPIMP Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In Your General Area Posts: 2,290	Re: Highlights from the Superman The Movie DVD SOAB! I just read at capedwonder.com that the theatrical cut of Superman 1 that you get in the new sets does NOT feature the origonal sound mix but that new fandangled mix from the 2001 SE. I am very dissapointed by this news. I really didnt like the new sound effects during the opening credits and in the film.

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