The Gunbarrel scene could have been so much better!

SeriousDuke · 11-17-2006, 05:40 PM

My favorite part in Casino Royale was the introduction to the gun barrel... giving us a reason for why we see it in each and every Bond film. I loved how they did it... however, it got me thinking... they could have done it so much cooler! Here's how.

Okay, the scene goes as it does in the film, with the bathroom. They should have had the guy lift up his gun, point it at Bond, and then we get an inside view of the gun. We see the bullet inside the barrel, ready to fire, the gun fires, we see the bullet lift out of the gun with a flash of fire and sparks, now we have a first person view locked onto the bullet, exiting the gun barrell(yes, we actually leave the gunbarrel). We see Bond notice this, he turns around aiming his gun. He fires. His bullet collides with the other bullet and both bullets are pushed into the gun(we re-enter the gunbarrel) as the gun sparks and blows up since it is jammed. The blood drips down as this happens... enter title sequence.

It sounds complicated, but I think this would have made the scene so much more badass... they should use it for the next bond film.

~SD

Master Chief · 11-17-2006, 05:45 PM

Why ruin something so simple and effective with fancyness?

SeriousDuke · 11-17-2006, 05:48 PM

Lol... since this was the realistic Bond... I think they should have done something like that. Sure, the originals are great... but this new Bond should have had a sleeker opening.

And, isn't Bond less simple, and more fancy?

~SD

Master Chief · 11-17-2006, 05:56 PM

Well. I'd think if bullets collided they'd stop in the place of impact, and if the gun exploded there'd be no barrel left.

johnsonuk · 11-17-2006, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Chief

Why ruin something so simple and effective with fancyness?

what a perfect response

SeriousDuke · 11-17-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Chief

Well. I'd think if bullets collided they'd stop in the place of impact, and if the gun exploded there'd be no barrel left.

Exactly. That's the point. Well, in movies you can do anything. Bond's bullet goes so fast that it pushes the enemies back into it's barrel, blowing up the gun... big explosion occurs that cues to the credits.

~SD

Agentsands77 · 11-17-2006, 06:44 PM

That's would have looked laughable after that very dark and down-to-earth scenario. Furthermore, according to physics, it wouldn't work that way. A bullet wouldn't push another bullet back.

And I think you're mistaken as to what the intent of that sequence was. The idea wasn't to provide a real-life gunbarrel logo or "explain the story behind the symbol" - rather, the scene symbolically becomes the gunbarrel logo because Bond has just become 007.

Golgo-13 · 11-17-2006, 06:49 PM

^. Ditto.

Blayton · 11-17-2006, 09:39 PM

The Gunbarrel and the Opening Video was the only thing I had a problem with. The Rest was Great Bond is back.

blitz · 11-17-2006, 10:01 PM

HAHAHA LMAO are you 5 years old?

Mentok · 11-17-2006, 10:50 PM

Its perfect as it is in the film.

Master Chief · 11-18-2006, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by blitz

HAHAHA LMAO are you 5 years old?

Maybe not 5. But he likes the Serious Sam and Duke Nukem gaming franchises. Preferred M:I:III over this. I can see why he'd need them to step it up a notch.

rdh007 · 11-18-2006, 08:24 AM

It worked for me.

xwolverine2 · 11-18-2006, 08:28 AM

it was my fav gun barrel of all the movies.......

Golgo-13 · 11-18-2006, 09:21 AM

I like the gun barrel in this movie, althought as the movie opens as a whole it might have been cool to see the white cirlce dot across the screen and open up the scene, as with other Bond flicks-only this time we just don't see Bond walking within the circle in his tux....

SeriousDuke · 11-18-2006, 12:15 PM

lol, I'm not saying the gunbarrel didn't work for me... that opening scene was my favorite part in the film... I'm just saying that it could have looked cooler and more realistic... however, the scene couldn't truly happen in real life... but, it's a movie. I just wanted something a little more intricate... that's all.

~SD

mcflytrap · 11-19-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SeriousDuke

lol, I'm not saying the gunbarrel didn't work for me... that opening scene was my favorite part in the film... I'm just saying that it could have looked cooler and more realistic... however, the scene couldn't truly happen in real life... but, it's a movie. I just wanted something a little more intricate... that's all.

~SD

What kind of crack are you smoking? You want more realistic, so you want a bullet to collide in midair with another bullet (already the odds are in the trillions)...then the bullet push back the other bullet because apparently, Bond is pulling the trigger *harder* and therefore his bullet is faster (big WTF here)..and then go into the gunbarrel (odds are off the charts) and explode the gun.

Yeah. Realistic is the word I'd use.

porchmonkey408 · 11-19-2006, 12:30 PM

LOL.

Dude, I loved how everything was introduced so subtly.

Bartender: "Shaken or stirred?"

Bond: "Does it look like I give a damn?"

I thought the gunbarrel thing was done perfectly fine. The opening sequence was short, sweet and meant something huge. Perfect.

This has to be the best Bond film since The Spy Who Loved Me.

blitz · 11-19-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mcflytrap

What kind of crack are you smoking? You want more realistic, so you want a bullet to collide in midair with another bullet (already the odds are in the trillions)...then the bullet push back the other bullet because apparently, Bond is pulling the trigger *harder* and therefore his bullet is faster (big WTF here)..and then go into the gunbarrel (odds are off the charts) and explode the gun.

Yeah. Realistic is the word I'd use.

couldnt of said it better! LOL.

JLBats · 11-19-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mcflytrap

What kind of crack are you smoking? You want more realistic, so you want a bullet to collide in midair with another bullet (already the odds are in the trillions)...then the bullet push back the other bullet because apparently, Bond is pulling the trigger *harder* and therefore his bullet is faster (big WTF here)..and then go into the gunbarrel (odds are off the charts) and explode the gun.

Yeah. Realistic is the word I'd use.

Siggable.

Goldeneye · 11-19-2006, 01:16 PM

Really bad opening - they didnt even play the theme over the barrel. And a bathroom brawl as the opening..come on.

Two-Face · 11-19-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldeneye

Really bad opening - they didnt even play the theme over the barrel. And a bathroom brawl as the opening..come on.

Super_fan is that you?

Goldeneye · 11-19-2006, 01:18 PM

:s ....

Kaiser · 11-19-2006, 01:58 PM

the cgi blood did kind of suck in the scene.

blitz · 11-19-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaiser

the cgi blood did kind of suck in the scene.

are you retarded?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_cLe1TQ0MU

11-17-2006, 05:40 PM	#1
SeriousDuke Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: A Time Traveling Delorean Posts: 1,647	The Gunbarrel scene could have been so much better! My favorite part in Casino Royale was the introduction to the gun barrel... giving us a reason for why we see it in each and every Bond film. I loved how they did it... however, it got me thinking... they could have done it so much cooler! Here's how. Okay, the scene goes as it does in the film, with the bathroom. They should have had the guy lift up his gun, point it at Bond, and then we get an inside view of the gun. We see the bullet inside the barrel, ready to fire, the gun fires, we see the bullet lift out of the gun with a flash of fire and sparks, now we have a first person view locked onto the bullet, exiting the gun barrell(yes, we actually leave the gunbarrel). We see Bond notice this, he turns around aiming his gun. He fires. His bullet collides with the other bullet and both bullets are pushed into the gun(we re-enter the gunbarrel) as the gun sparks and blows up since it is jammed. The blood drips down as this happens... enter title sequence. It sounds complicated, but I think this would have made the scene so much more badass... they should use it for the next bond film. ~SD __________________ I CAN'T BE BOUGHT, BULLIED, REASONED, OR NEGOTIATED WITH. I WANT TO WATCH THE WORLD BURN! Come get me Batman. Last edited by SeriousDuke; 11-17-2006 at 05:42 PM.

11-17-2006, 05:45 PM	#2
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11-17-2006, 05:48 PM	#3
SeriousDuke Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: A Time Traveling Delorean Posts: 1,647	Re: The Gunbarrel scene could have been so much better! Lol... since this was the realistic Bond... I think they should have done something like that. Sure, the originals are great... but this new Bond should have had a sleeker opening. And, isn't Bond less simple, and more fancy? ~SD __________________ I CAN'T BE BOUGHT, BULLIED, REASONED, OR NEGOTIATED WITH. I WANT TO WATCH THE WORLD BURN! Come get me Batman.

11-17-2006, 05:56 PM	#4
Master Chief ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 27,670	Re: The Gunbarrel scene could have been so much better! Well. I'd think if bullets collided they'd stop in the place of impact, and if the gun exploded there'd be no barrel left. __________________ ~ I was lookin' for a hooker when I found you.

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Agentsands77 Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,914	Re: The Gunbarrel scene could have been so much better! That's would have looked laughable after that very dark and down-to-earth scenario. Furthermore, according to physics, it wouldn't work that way. A bullet wouldn't push another bullet back. And I think you're mistaken as to what the intent of that sequence was. The idea wasn't to provide a real-life gunbarrel logo or "explain the story behind the symbol" - rather, the scene symbolically becomes the gunbarrel logo because Bond has just become 007.

11-17-2006, 06:49 PM	#8
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Golgo-13 In ♥ w/ Hayley Atwell Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eating Cadburys Creme Eggs... Posts: 23,202	Re: The Gunbarrel scene could have been so much better! I like the gun barrel in this movie, althought as the movie opens as a whole it might have been cool to see the white cirlce dot across the screen and open up the scene, as with other Bond flicks-only this time we just don't see Bond walking within the circle in his tux.... __________________ Theatricality and deception are powerful agents to the uninitiated... but we are initiated aren't we Bruce ? Members of the League of shadows..... "Men are born between a woman's legs and spend the rest of their lives trying to get back between them..........WHY? Because there's no place like home!"

11-18-2006, 12:15 PM	#16
SeriousDuke Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: A Time Traveling Delorean Posts: 1,647	Re: The Gunbarrel scene could have been so much better! lol, I'm not saying the gunbarrel didn't work for me... that opening scene was my favorite part in the film... I'm just saying that it could have looked cooler and more realistic... however, the scene couldn't truly happen in real life... but, it's a movie. I just wanted something a little more intricate... that's all. ~SD __________________ I CAN'T BE BOUGHT, BULLIED, REASONED, OR NEGOTIATED WITH. I WANT TO WATCH THE WORLD BURN! Come get me Batman.

11-19-2006, 12:30 PM	#18
porchmonkey408 Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 398	Re: The Gunbarrel scene could have been so much better! LOL. Dude, I loved how everything was introduced so subtly. Bartender: "Shaken or stirred?" Bond: "Does it look like I give a damn?" I thought the gunbarrel thing was done perfectly fine. The opening sequence was short, sweet and meant something huge. Perfect. This has to be the best Bond film since The Spy Who Loved Me.

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