Which political idealogy will cause the end of the world?

[Spider-Bite]

On a global scale which political idealogy is more likely to contribute more to the extinction of the human race if it happens. Also which idealogy is more likely to contribute to kicking off World War 3?

I believe that it's conservatives, although that probably comes as no surprise to anybody here. I really do. who are liberals trying to kill and go to war with? In every country it's pretty much the same thing. Conservatives want war with other o****ries and liberals don't.

[Dan33977]

You come off as rather ignorant in your post. Not all conservatives are bad, just the radical, religious neoconservatives are. Though I'm not particularly fond of either political party, I do agree that Republicans are worse than Democrats are. Personally, I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal (somewhat of a libertarian).

[Abaddon]

Why does WWIII have to be the end?

[DV8]

the real political ideology which will cause the end of the world is capitalism . . . we can only consume so much **** before we run out of resources altogether . . .

[triplefive]

there are a lot more political ideologies than just conservativism and liberalism, and i don't think one particular ideology will be the downfall of the world.

[hippie_hunter]

I don't think that it will be the conservatives that will be the cause of World War III. I think the more extreme right such as fascists and reactionaries will cause it.

Remember, conservativism is the good side of right winged politics, just like liberalism is the good side of left winged politics.

[dogwonder78]

Anarchy?

[Parker]

I have no idea which idealogy will cause the end of the world, but they're all just as likely to contribute, the thread and poll are kind of posing a different question.

[Human Shield]

Any ideology that doesn't respect human rights. Which is pretty much all of them except libertarians.

Originally Posted by DV8

the real political ideology which will cause the end of the world is capitalism . . . we can only consume so much **** before we run out of resources altogether . . .

Good thing then that capitalism is the only system that promotes more effective use of resources and new technology, capitalism is the only system that creates long term investment (no maintenance without private property). Resources that are privately owned never run out.

[Dan33977]

Originally Posted by Human Shield

Any ideology that doesn't respect human rights. Which is pretty much all of them except libertarians.

Good thing then that capitalism is the only system that promotes more effective use of resources and new technology, capitalism is the only system that creates long term investment (no maintenance without private property). Resources that are privately owned never run out.

Agreed. I love your reply.

[Spider-Bite]

Originally Posted by Dan33977

You come off as rather ignorant in your post. Not all conservatives are bad, just the radical, religious neoconservatives are. Though I'm not particularly fond of either political party, I do agree that Republicans are worse than Democrats are. Personally, I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal (somewhat of a libertarian).

well if liberals oppose going to war, and conservatives support it, I'd say that pretty much simplifies it wouldn't you? if war happens between two countries it's gonna be because conservatives in both countries supported it.

[hippie_hunter]

Originally Posted by Spider-Bite

well if liberals oppose going to war, and conservatives support it, I'd say that pretty much simplifies it wouldn't you? if war happens between two countries it's gonna be because conservatives in both countries supported it.

You really need to get rid of this generalization that all liberals oppose war are automatically good and represent all of left-winged politics and that all conservatives are hate-mongering fascists that are going to destroy the war.

It's insulting and downright ignorant.

[Dan33977]

Originally Posted by Spider-Bite

well if liberals oppose going to war, and conservatives support it, I'd say that pretty much simplifies it wouldn't you? if war happens between two countries it's gonna be because conservatives in both countries supported it.

You couldn't be more wrong. First of all, I think you need to rethink your ideas of what liberalism and conservatism are; second of all, don't try to simplify the situation when it isn't at all simple.

Again, I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal (somewhat libertarian), so where would I fall in your "simplified" world?

Originally Posted by hippie_hunter

You really need to get rid of this generalization that all liberals oppose war are automatically good and represent all of left-winged politics and that all conservatives are hate-mongering fascists that are going to destroy the war.

It's insulting and downright ignorant.

Agreed. Exactly what I said in my previous reply to this thread. It's like a typical angst-ridden teenager's naive view of liberals and conservatives.

[Immortalfire]

Originally Posted by Abaddon

Why does WWIII have to be the end?

Evidently some people can see the future

[C.F. Kane]

Well, assuming that our sun doesn't go supernova when the Milky Way collides with the Andromeda Galaxy, I'm pretty sure that Sol's expansion into a red giant that will consume everything between it and Mars will destroy the world.


I'm not sure if you can blame that on liberals or conservatives, though.

[gap5ewl]

i dont think this is a good poll..since i believe if both are taken to the extreme, we could possible see something horrrific..

[Orko Is King]

JEWS!!!!

[hippie_hunter]

If there is going to be a World War III, it'll be started by a right-wing reactionary government like Iran or a left-wing communist government like China or North Korea.

[Dan33977]

Originally Posted by hippie_hunter

If there is going to be a World War III, it'll be started by a right-wing reactionary government like Iran or a left-wing communist government like China or North Korea.

Well, I'm glad at least someone has some sense in this forum!

[Human Shield]

Right and Left are arbitrary terms for people that treat social freedom and economic freedom as two separate issues when they work the same way. Socialism, fascists, and communism all work the same way, left and right of coercion is still coercion, its whatever direction the state forces.

Extremes of left and right make no sense. Moderates are supposed to be pro-freedom and extreme is mass murder and slave camps? Left and Right is just disagreement over what to use coercion on, but both face the same direction, like a tree branch with left and right points but both facing up.

In America at least the Left is all pro-privileges and the right at least has a libertarian segment facing the other direction. Other then that it is all pork-barrel spending for special interest groups, keeping their job depends on making false promises and helping their voters at the expense of others, while giving everything nice sounding names and describing how good things will come regardless of if it does the opposite. If every bill did what it said it would do we should be a utopia.

Socialist and communist are the true conservatives because they want to keep trying what humanity has been doing for 5,000 years.

[Spider-Bite]

Originally Posted by hippie_hunter

I don't think that it will be the conservatives that will be the cause of World War III. I think the more extreme right such as fascists and reactionaries will cause it.

Remember, conservativism is the good side of right winged politics, just like liberalism is the good side of left winged politics.

take into consideration the way Bush, Osama Bin laden, Iranian President Armamjad or whatever he's called, all behave and interact with the rest of the world. They are all very conservative.

If the entire world was suddenly liberal and anti-war wouldn't we have world peace?

[hippie_hunter]

Originally Posted by Spider-Bite

take into consideration the way Bush, Osama Bin laden, Iranian President Armamjad or whatever he's called, all behave and interact with the rest of the world. They are all very conservative.

Osama bin Laden and the Iranian leader are not conservatives. They are reactionaries which is even more right-winged than Bush. And Bush is a crappy conservative, he spends like a liberal, a retarded one at that.

If the entire world was suddenly liberal and anti-war wouldn't we have world peace?

The same thing could happen with conservative and anti-war. You need to get this ideal that all conservatives are a bunch of hateful warmongering bastards who want to destroy the world. As I have already said, your views on conservatives are extremely ignorant, naive, ill-informed, and insulting.

Liberals can also support the idea of war. Various liberals in Congress such as John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, Tom Daschle, Diane Feinstein, and others voted to SUPPORT Bush in his war against Saddam Hussein.

Also your dream of world peace will never happen. The times will change. Idealologies will change. Demographics will change. But the nature of people will never change. People will always find a reason to hate one another, it's a basic human emotion like love, anger, joy, sadness, etc. People will hate other people on the basis of race, pride, fear, religion, history, territory, and any other reason they can find. War is a part of history and it will continue forever in the future. Thinking that world peace, no matter how desireable and beneficial it is, is a possibility is foolishness. World peace is an impossibility because there will always be a conflict somewhere in the world.

[Dan33977]

Originally Posted by Spider-Bite

take into consideration the way Bush, Osama Bin laden, Iranian President Armamjad or whatever he's called, all behave and interact with the rest of the world. They are all very conservative.

If the entire world was suddenly liberal and anti-war wouldn't we have world peace?

Do you even bother to read the replies to your thread? You seriously need to rethink your views on what liberalism and conservatism are. You're oversimplifying the situation when it isn't at all simple and what you're suggesting is exactly what one would expect a typical, naive angst-ridden teenager to do. For the last time, get a clue!

Again, I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal (libertarian), so where do I fall in your "simplified" world?

[The Amazing Lee]

Obesity

[X-Chick]

This is assuming the world will end because of a war. Why couldn't it be a giant asteroid or something?