The Official Jorel Thread

Lightning54SC · 12-05-2006, 02:21 PM

Who would you choose... id go for Brian Cox.. he has a relationship already started with singer and heres a quick maniup... he kinda looks like brando and im sure he can sound liek him too with a little practice

Kebab gud · 12-05-2006, 02:31 PM

they can make brando say almost anything.. soo why change him out now?

Brando IS Jor EL and may he R.I.P

Lightning54SC · 12-05-2006, 02:33 PM

cuz brando needs to RIP no more tainted CGI

DorkyFresh · 12-05-2006, 02:55 PM

brilliant! i love Cox!!!

that didn't sound right...hehe. but no, seriously, i think he'd be awesome as Jor-El.

bgshw44 · 12-05-2006, 02:57 PM

you have to keep Brando, end of story

DorkyFresh · 12-05-2006, 03:05 PM

i love when people use 'end of story' as if they have some kind of power to stop a topic or argument.

they don't HAVE to keep Brando...they don't HAVE to do anything, but i think it'd be a better move if Singer started seperating HIS Superman from Donners. one way to do that is to get a different actor to play, Jor-El.

lujho · 12-05-2006, 03:48 PM

I'm sick of old Man Jor-El. Next time... next reboot, I guess, I'd like to see a Jor-El who looks more like his son, in age and appearance.

I would have actually cast Johnny Depp if they'd done a reboot this time around. And he would have been a very different Jor-El indeed.

It's too late to re-cast within this series now though, especially with anyone too unlike Brando's version.

DarkSuperman · 12-05-2006, 04:02 PM

Exactly! Why the hell is Superman's father ALWAYS an old geezer in these films?! When in the comics his pops is always young and cool. Jor-El in appearance should LOOK a lot like Superman! Not a clean shaven Santa Claus.

And Apparently so are the movies...

NotFadeAway · 12-05-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lujho

I'm sick of old Man Jor-El. Next time... next reboot, I guess, I'd like to see a Jor-El who looks more like his son, in age and appearance.

I would have actually cast Johnny Depp if they'd done a reboot this time around. And he would have been a very different Jor-El indeed.

It's too late to re-cast within this series now though, especially with anyone too unlike Brando's version.

Im with you all the way, Jor-El needs to be the same age as Superman at the time of his death.

DorkyFresh · 12-05-2006, 08:06 PM

if this were a restart, i would've like to have seen a younger Jor-El, but considering that we're stuck with a semi-sequel to the Donner movies (Routh resembles Reeve, Spacey resembles Hackman, same Fortress, same looking ship, etc...), for the sake of consistancy, i would like to see an elder Jor-El for the next movie....be it Cox, CGI Brando, or another fitting actor.

as long as he ain't TOO old...

edit: did a quick manip...

Excel · 12-05-2006, 08:13 PM

anthony hopkins

sepharih · 12-05-2006, 08:25 PM

First, this is all assuming that Jor-El will be making another appearance to begin with. I was under the impression that when the crystals were removed from the Fortress his essence went with them. His spirit was supposed to have been “embedded” in them, right?
That may not be the case, but that was the impression I got.

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they can make brando say almost anything.. soo why change him out now?

They can make him look like he's saying almost anything, but they only have a limited amount of dialouge to work with. Even if they used the same technique from the last film, if they want him to speak anything new, they'll either have to purchase the rights to whatever recorded dialouge exists out there to do what they need (which at this point may actually belong to Brando’s estate) or they’ll need to hire a voice actor too fill in.

I definitely agree that resurrecting Brando was another mistake in the very long list of ones that stemmed from the choice to make a sequel to a 20 year old movie.

And yes, if he makes a return, Cox is an excellent suggestion.

Freddy_Krueger · 12-06-2006, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sepharih

First, this is all assuming that Jor-El will be making another appearance to begin with. I was under the impression that when the crystals were removed from the Fortress his essence went with them. His spirit was supposed to have been “embedded” in them, right?
That may not be the case, but that was the impression I got.

You're exactly right. The voices of the past are completely lost and closed to Superman now.

Batman the 6th · 12-06-2006, 01:03 AM

How about Ian McKellen? I think they should have the guy who plays Sylar on Heroes, he looks like Routh. Maybe have a flashback to the old days when Jor-El wasn't starting a family in his sixties.

HR-PUFF&STUFF · 12-06-2006, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSuperman

Exactly! Why the hell is Superman's father ALWAYS an old geezer in these films?! When in the comics his pops is always young and cool. Jor-El in appearance should LOOK a lot like Superman! Not a clean shaven Santa Claus.

And Apparently so are the movies...

jor-el is god and superman is jesus.

The Kid · 12-06-2006, 01:14 AM

Why do you say that?

HR-PUFF&STUFF · 12-06-2006, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Wesyeed

Why do you say that?

i watched the movies with the commintary on.

The Kid · 12-06-2006, 01:22 AM

Elaborate for me. Are you saying he literally is or can be compared to... etc.

Motown Marvel · 12-06-2006, 01:29 AM

i highly doubt jor-el will be making any appearances in future sequels.

HR-PUFF&STUFF · 12-06-2006, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Wesyeed

Elaborate for me. Are you saying he literally is or can be compared to... etc.

compared to that is why he in older and has white hair, he was ment to like god, sending his son to earth to save mankind.

The Kid · 12-06-2006, 01:40 AM

It wasn't because his planet was about to go boom?

Batman the 6th · 12-06-2006, 02:37 PM

No one thinks Ian McKellen could do it? Heck, why not Terence Stamp, he does the voice on SV.

DorkyFresh · 12-06-2006, 02:51 PM

Ian McKellen - already Magneto, too old
Terence Stamp - you DO know he was Zod, right?

Batman the 6th · 12-06-2006, 02:52 PM

Yeah. He won't be Zod in a sequel, unless they make kryptonians age.

12-06-2006, 06:02 PM

Anthony Hopkins.

12-05-2006, 02:21 PM	#1
Lightning54SC Banned User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,562	The Official Jorel Thread Who would you choose... id go for Brian Cox.. he has a relationship already started with singer and heres a quick maniup... he kinda looks like brando and im sure he can sound liek him too with a little practice

12-05-2006, 02:31 PM	#2
Kebab gud Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,220	Re: New JOR EL they can make brando say almost anything.. soo why change him out now? Brando IS Jor EL and may he R.I.P

12-05-2006, 02:33 PM	#3
Lightning54SC Banned User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,562	Re: New JOR EL cuz brando needs to RIP no more tainted CGI

12-05-2006, 02:55 PM	#4
DorkyFresh Sum Dum Goy Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Currently living in sanity. Posts: 19,134	Re: New JOR EL brilliant! i love Cox!!! that didn't sound right...hehe. but no, seriously, i think he'd be awesome as Jor-El.

12-05-2006, 02:57 PM	#5
bgshw44 Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,243	Re: New JOR EL you have to keep Brando, end of story

12-05-2006, 03:05 PM	#6
DorkyFresh Sum Dum Goy Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Currently living in sanity. Posts: 19,134	Re: New JOR EL i love when people use 'end of story' as if they have some kind of power to stop a topic or argument. they don't HAVE to keep Brando...they don't HAVE to do anything, but i think it'd be a better move if Singer started seperating HIS Superman from Donners. one way to do that is to get a different actor to play, Jor-El.

12-05-2006, 03:48 PM	#7
lujho Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 4,259	Re: New JOR EL I'm sick of old Man Jor-El. Next time... next reboot, I guess, I'd like to see a Jor-El who looks more like his son, in age and appearance. I would have actually cast Johnny Depp if they'd done a reboot this time around. And he would have been a very different Jor-El indeed. It's too late to re-cast within this series now though, especially with anyone too unlike Brando's version.

12-05-2006, 04:02 PM	#8
DarkSuperman Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Orbiting Satellite Posts: 1,999	Re: New JOR EL Exactly! Why the hell is Superman's father ALWAYS an old geezer in these films?! When in the comics his pops is always young and cool. Jor-El in appearance should LOOK a lot like Superman! Not a clean shaven Santa Claus. And Apparently so are the movies...

12-05-2006, 08:06 PM	#10
DorkyFresh Sum Dum Goy Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Currently living in sanity. Posts: 19,134	Re: New JOR EL if this were a restart, i would've like to have seen a younger Jor-El, but considering that we're stuck with a semi-sequel to the Donner movies (Routh resembles Reeve, Spacey resembles Hackman, same Fortress, same looking ship, etc...), for the sake of consistancy, i would like to see an elder Jor-El for the next movie....be it Cox, CGI Brando, or another fitting actor. as long as he ain't TOO old... edit: did a quick manip... Last edited by DorkyFresh; 12-05-2006 at 08:40 PM.

12-05-2006, 08:13 PM	#11
Excel O-bama-ama-ama-ay-ay Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Places Posts: 19,471	Re: New JOR EL anthony hopkins __________________ If You Wanna Make The World A Better Place, Take A Look At Yourself, And Then Make A Change R.I.P. Heath

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The Kid AMERICA FTW Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bronx Posts: 12,766	Re: New JOR EL It wasn't because his planet was about to go boom? __________________ Superman Returns is better than the Dark Knight

12-06-2006, 02:37 PM	#22
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DorkyFresh Sum Dum Goy Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Currently living in sanity. Posts: 19,134	Re: New JOR EL Ian McKellen - already Magneto, too old Terence Stamp - you DO know he was Zod, right?

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12-06-2006, 06:02 PM	#25
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