The new Penance, REVEALED - Page 9

Harlekin · 01-07-2007, 05:10 AM

The hope of Penance becoming Speedball again is in vain. Either Ellis kills him when he inevitably leaves the Thunderbolts title or he's killed in his next appearance afterwards. I don't think anyone would actually like to write a guy like this. I'm betting on his death in the end of 2007 or around summer time 2008.

But I don't really care, because Speedball is dead to me anyway.

kainedamo · 01-07-2007, 07:45 AM

Don't you people like ANYTHING Marvel does??

I mean, Frontline was well written throughout. Robbie had a good arc. And now we have a character thats kinda like Spawn or The Crow or something. The potential for future stories is immense!

Harlekin · 01-07-2007, 09:55 AM

I love quite a few things that Marvel does. The complete and total assrapage of a great character though, sorry if I'm not up and jumping while blowing my wad. I can see the future story potential, I'm not blind. Doesn't mean I like that particular potential though.

kainedamo · 01-07-2007, 10:09 AM

Yeah, I get where you're coming from. Its not a big deal for me, I was never a big fan of Robbie before.

Darthphere · 01-07-2007, 10:58 AM

Here's a question though. Does Robbie plan on taking a piss or ****ting anytime soon?

kainedamo · 01-07-2007, 11:09 AM

Wasn't the Scorpion welded into his own costume at some point?? *shrugs*

Kitsune · 01-07-2007, 11:14 AM

I'm wondering if Robbie is wearing a ballgag under that thing.

kainedamo · 01-07-2007, 11:26 AM

Maybe he has a dildo in there somewhere too. But shhh, this is a family board!

BrianWilly · 01-07-2007, 01:41 PM

There's nothing that families need more than a good dildo.

Varient · 01-07-2007, 01:46 PM

eh,...
he will DIE if he wears that suit for more than two days and gets into a serious bru-ha with superpowered foes,... and i'm not even including infection, blood poisoning, and the fact that he has damage from being shot.....

Exactly "why" did reed spend so little effort trying to help him?

Doc Destruction · 01-07-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kainedamo

Don't you people like ANYTHING Marvel does??

Flawed argument. Of course we do, or elese we wouldn't be reading.

We ARE however allowed to complain about things that suck. So deal with it.

Varient · 01-07-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Destruction

Flawed argument. Of course we do, or elese we wouldn't be reading.

We ARE however allowed to complain about things that suck. So deal with it.

heh heh,.....that was well stated,... if a lil harsh.

Darthphere · 01-07-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Destruction

Flawed argument. Of course we do, or elese we wouldn't be reading.

We ARE however allowed to complain about things that suck. So deal with it.

But in his defense, in your case, all you do is complain.

Kotagg · 01-07-2007, 02:33 PM

Penance > Speedball

Marvel Now > Past Marvel of any timeframe

Opinion stated.

Discuss.

kainedamo · 01-07-2007, 02:42 PM

Well, I stated in a different thread that if Avengers: Under Siege had never been written, and were released right now, written word for word but by Bendis...

Today's fans would tear the story apart. It's the truth.

Harlekin · 01-07-2007, 03:54 PM

I sincerely doubt that.

kainedamo · 01-07-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Harlekin

I sincerely doubt that.

No. Seriously. There are flaws in that book that today's Internet generation would be alllllllllllll over and blowing out of proportion.

supermarvelman · 01-07-2007, 04:26 PM

I still dont think Robbie will die anytime soon.

Speedball · 01-07-2007, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by supermarvelman

I still dont think Robbie will die anytime soon.

No matter what Joe Q does, it ain't gonna happen.

Doc Destruction · 01-07-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Darthphere

But in his defense, in your case, all you do is complain.

FAR from the truth.

Doc Destruction · 01-07-2007, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kainedamo

No. Seriously. There are flaws in that book that today's Internet generation would be alllllllllllll over and blowing out of proportion.

I'd take that bet.

Dread · 01-07-2007, 05:05 PM

"How does he get out of it" didn't stop Rhino from being "trapped" in his suit for years. Granted, Penance is self-afflicting and that is one of those details I doubt was planned. Unless Ellis is setting up a future toilet joke.

BrainWilly's post also reminded me of how most versions of the Suicide Squad always had some token "heroic" or "non criminal soldier" character on the roster. And, yeah, it makes no sense to see a hero try to redeem himself on a team with vicious crooks, but maybe they feel they won't judge. And besides, anti-heroes are trendy. They're "it". Better to make a villian heroic than to try to launch a geniune new hero, or at least that is the formula circa 1994.

ShadowBoxing · 01-07-2007, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hippie_hunter

The cover to the Amazing Spider-Man #537 is leaning to the opposite of what you beleive

C'mon, honestly you've been reading comics long enough now to know how many times heroes, villains, and their supporting cast members end up in snipe sites and nothing happens to them.

I mean if this meant anything Batman would be dead by now.

supermarvelman · 01-07-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dread

"How does he get out of it" didn't stop Rhino from being "trapped" in his suit for years. Granted, Penance is self-afflicting and that is one of those details I doubt was planned. Unless Ellis is setting up a future toilet joke.

BrainWilly's post also reminded me of how most versions of the Suicide Squad always had some token "heroic" or "non criminal soldier" character on the roster. And, yeah, it makes no sense to see a hero try to redeem himself on a team with vicious crooks, but maybe they feel they won't judge. And besides, anti-heroes are trendy. They're "it". Better to make a villian heroic than to try to launch a geniune new hero, or at least that is the formula circa 1994.

Obviously Robbie wants to redeem himself, but maybe he chooses to be with the Thunderbolts because he truely see's himself as one of them since what happened in Stamford. At first he didn't think it was his fault and wouldn't join the pro-regs side, then all of a sudden he decides to sign up, maybe he really thinks and believes it was partly his fault, and that he deserves to be around similar people. We might not agree with him, but maybe thats his way of punishing himself besides the Voldo suit.

I also think that Songbird, Swordsman, and R-Man have proven to be heroes.

supermarvelman · 01-07-2007, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowBoxing

C'mon, honestly you've been reading comics long enough now to know how many times heroes, villains, and their supporting cast members end up in snipe sites and nothing happens to them.

I mean if this meant anything Batman would be dead by now.

Punisher is gonna save the day on this one.

01-07-2007, 05:10 AM	#201
Harlekin Business Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,592	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED The hope of Penance becoming Speedball again is in vain. Either Ellis kills him when he inevitably leaves the Thunderbolts title or he's killed in his next appearance afterwards. I don't think anyone would actually like to write a guy like this. I'm betting on his death in the end of 2007 or around summer time 2008. But I don't really care, because Speedball is dead to me anyway.

01-07-2007, 07:45 AM	#202
kainedamo Banned User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Belfast Posts: 9,727	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED Don't you people like ANYTHING Marvel does?? I mean, Frontline was well written throughout. Robbie had a good arc. And now we have a character thats kinda like Spawn or The Crow or something. The potential for future stories is immense!

01-07-2007, 09:55 AM	#203
Harlekin Business Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,592	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED I love quite a few things that Marvel does. The complete and total assrapage of a great character though, sorry if I'm not up and jumping while blowing my wad. I can see the future story potential, I'm not blind. Doesn't mean I like that particular potential though.

01-07-2007, 10:09 AM	#204
kainedamo Banned User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Belfast Posts: 9,727	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED Yeah, I get where you're coming from. Its not a big deal for me, I was never a big fan of Robbie before.

01-07-2007, 10:58 AM	#205
Darthphere Kneel before 'Drox! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Phantom Zone Posts: 81,978	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED Here's a question though. Does Robbie plan on taking a piss or **ting anytime soon? __________________ "When I was in college, I was belittling the woman who later become my wife for not knowing who Boba Fett was, and she responded by asking me if I knew who the Prime Minister of Israel was. Surprisingly? Not Mon Mothma."-BKV**

01-07-2007, 11:09 AM	#206
kainedamo Banned User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Belfast Posts: 9,727	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED Wasn't the Scorpion welded into his own costume at some point?? shrugs

01-07-2007, 11:14 AM	#207
Kitsune Fox of Ages Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: This is your moment of Zen Posts: 5,921	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED I'm wondering if Robbie is wearing a ballgag under that thing. __________________ The destiny of the world is determined less by the battles that are lost and won, than by the stories it loves and believes in.-H Goddard

01-07-2007, 11:26 AM	#208
kainedamo Banned User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Belfast Posts: 9,727	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED Maybe he has a dildo in there somewhere too. But shhh, this is a family board!

01-07-2007, 01:41 PM	#209
BrianWilly Disciple of Whedon Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Church of Joss Posts: 13,498	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED There's nothing that families need more than a good dildo. __________________ I'll kick down the walls around me; they don't know how strong I am I'm not defined by boundaries; they could never understand, I'm so much more than status quo I am a Starship Ranger! I'm gonna do everything I can to always be a Starship Ranger; it's everything I am!

01-07-2007, 01:46 PM	#210
Varient Guru for Geeks Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Daxam, in a Upper-class Suburb Posts: 12,959	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED eh,... he will DIE if he wears that suit for more than two days and gets into a serious bru-ha with superpowered foes,... and i'm not even including infection, blood poisoning, and the fact that he has damage from being shot..... Exactly "why" did reed spend so little effort trying to help him? __________________ Salani kahle = "Stay well" in the isiZulu Language. Zum leben un gesund "to life and health" in German (Whisper) "CARGIL is trying out for and trying HARD to be an X-man - I am SOOOO Jazzed about this simple thing."

01-07-2007, 02:33 PM	#214
Kotagg Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 708	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED Penance > Speedball Marvel Now > Past Marvel of any timeframe Opinion stated. Discuss.

01-07-2007, 02:42 PM	#215
kainedamo Banned User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Belfast Posts: 9,727	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED Well, I stated in a different thread that if Avengers: Under Siege had never been written, and were released right now, written word for word but by Bendis... Today's fans would tear the story apart. It's the truth.

01-07-2007, 03:54 PM	#216
Harlekin Business Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,592	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED I sincerely doubt that.

01-07-2007, 04:26 PM	#218
supermarvelman Banned User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hermosa Bch, CA Posts: 4,763	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED I still dont think Robbie will die anytime soon.

01-07-2007, 05:05 PM	#222
Dread TMNT 1984-2009 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Brooklyn, NY, US of A Posts: 21,591	Re: The new Penance, REVEALED "How does he get out of it" didn't stop Rhino from being "trapped" in his suit for years. Granted, Penance is self-afflicting and that is one of those details I doubt was planned. Unless Ellis is setting up a future toilet joke. BrainWilly's post also reminded me of how most versions of the Suicide Squad always had some token "heroic" or "non criminal soldier" character on the roster. And, yeah, it makes no sense to see a hero try to redeem himself on a team with vicious crooks, but maybe they feel they won't judge. And besides, anti-heroes are trendy. They're "it". Better to make a villian heroic than to try to launch a geniune new hero, or at least that is the formula circa 1994.

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