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Old 11-10-2006, 04:05 PM   #1
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i CANT be the only one who noticed-

SUPERMAN 2 is WAY too far alog to be out for summer 2009.

1. singer has already signed on. it took nolan about a year longer

2. there is already a title

3. theres already plot discussion

4.Singers is already writing it

but the biggest....


5. THE PRODUCERS SAY IT WILL BEGIN FILMING MID TO LATE 2007!

It doesnt take 2 years to film. Returns began filming in march 05 for a june 06t release date. a span of 15 months.

if superman begins filming between may-october of 2007, then the OBVIOUS release date is HOLIDAYS 2008!!

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It won't be out in 2008. You gotta figure the mid-late 2007 start includes pre-production stuff and the actual production. Probably about five months of filming, post-production, reshoots, continued post-production, editing, special effects work, music, etc. etc. The film still has a ways to go.

Although it is good that Singer and Lee are discussing the sequel now. That means they're gonna have a pretty good idea as to what the film will be about and what to expect from it real soon.

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i CANT be the only one who noticed-

SUPERMAN 2 is WAY too far alog to be out for summer 2009.

1. singer has already signed on. it took nolan about a year longer

2. there is already a title

3. theres already plot discussion

4.Singers is already writing it

but the biggest....


5. THE PRODUCERS SAY IT WILL BEGIN FILMING MID TO LATE 2007!

It doesnt take 2 years to film. Returns began filming in march 05 for a june 06t release date. a span of 15 months.

if superman begins filming between may-october of 2007, then the OBVIOUS release date is HOLIDAYS 2008!!
Yeah that would be a good move after they already blew the first one!
YEA RUSH OUT the 2nd one! That will work!

Seriously dude think about it...

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i CANT be the only one who noticed-

SUPERMAN 2 is WAY too far alog to be out for summer 2009.

1. singer has already signed on. it took nolan about a year longer

2. there is already a title

3. theres already plot discussion

4.Singers is already writing it

but the biggest....


5. THE PRODUCERS SAY IT WILL BEGIN FILMING MID TO LATE 2007!

It doesnt take 2 years to film. Returns began filming in march 05 for a june 06t release date. a span of 15 months.

if superman begins filming between may-october of 2007, then the OBVIOUS release date is HOLIDAYS 2008!!
1. I'm pretty sure Nolan signed on soon after Begins debuted in cinemas. I could be wrong.

2. Untitled Superman Returns Sequel is the title? I love it!

3. Every movie sequel has plot discussion. Land of the Dead had plot discussion for 20 years.

4. So? He's starting the first draft. First drafts get rewritten.

5. This isn't a small arthouse film, this is friggin' Superman, do you know how long pre and post production will take?

6. Why in the blue hell would warner release it at the same time as The Dark Knight? Even if they had connecting plots, they still wouldn't release them at the same time.

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I personally would love to see a superhero flick released in the busy holiday season and Superman is not exception.

I think you've got the filming dates wrong though Excel. Pre-production starts mid/late 2007 and at this moment in time Singer and co are only brainstorming about the story.I doubt they've even started work on the script yet since both Dan Harris and Michael Dougherty are going to direct their own movies soon. Or maybe they've hired a third writer in the meantime?

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1. I'm pretty sure Nolan signed on soon after Begins debuted in cinemas. I could be wrong.
Nolan officialy signed on in July.
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2. Untitled Superman Returns Sequel is the title? I love it!
IESB who broke the story about Singe's return for SR2 reported that the rumored working title is 'Man Of Steel'.
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6. Why in the blue hell would warner release it at the same time as The Dark Knight? Even if they had connecting plots, they still wouldn't release them at the same time.
The Dark Knight will be released summer 2008. Excel is suggesting a winter 2008 debut for Supes.

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Holidays 2008 confused me, truly sorry about that. Still I'm not aware of any other summer blockbusters lined up for 2009 so I'm guessing WB is gunning for Summer '09.

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it can not be man of steel. they saw this on this forum. we started this.

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http://joblo.com/index.php?id=13521

Source: Variety by: Mike Sampson



Bryan Singer has corraled a quartet of actors for the upcoming Warner Bros. thriller TRICK 'R TREAT. Singer vets Brian Cox and Anna Paquin (X2) are joined by Leslie Bibb and Dylan Baker in the horror film being written and directed by Singer collaborator and SUPERMAN RETURNS writer Mike Dougherty. Singer will produce the film and, according to Variety, is expected to be on set throughout the production to lend assistance to Dougherty who is making his directorial debut. The film is described as a horror film with intertwining stories a la GO. Obviously Warner Bros. is looking for TRICK to hit theaters on Halloween. Filming is scheduled to begin this Thursday in Vancouver and you can certainly expect some SUPERMAN RETURNS 2 brainstorming to take place on set in their down time (much like how Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale worked on THE DARK KNIGHT during THE PRESTIGE).

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Untitled Superman Returns sequel is the title?. I guess that can work...

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i CANT be the only one who noticed-

SUPERMAN 2 is WAY too far alog to be out for summer 2009.

1. singer has already signed on. it took nolan about a year longer

2. there is already a title

3. theres already plot discussion

4.Singers is already writing it

but the biggest....


5. THE PRODUCERS SAY IT WILL BEGIN FILMING MID TO LATE 2007]

It doesnt take 2 years to film. Returns began filming in march 05 for a june 06t release date. a span of 15 months.

if superman begins filming between may-october of 2007, then the OBVIOUS release date is HOLIDAYS 2008!!
1 Just because someone isn't signed on immediatly doesn't mean that a movie will come out earlier. With the amazing response Batman Begins got , it was a no brainer to sign on Nolan for the sequel. But there was no rush because
A WB is still working with it's superhero release date which is is to release a major superhero movie every year. They had planned for Wonder Woman to be released in '07. So it would be '05 Batman , '06 Superman Returns , '07 Wonder Woman , 08' Batman Sequel , ' 09 Superman Sequel.
B Nolan had said to WB that he would make the Prestige post BB and only after the prestige would he begin work on TDK.

2 There is no title yet. Only a rumored title. Until it's confirmed i wouldn't go to say THAT THERE IS A TITLE.

3 Doesn't mean that the movie will come out in 2008. Singer did propose a basic idea to Alan Horn when he was invited to Dinner by him. It could very well be that Singer told Horn what he envisioned as his trilogy. The Matrix Sequels were also long set yet it took almost 4 years before the next one came out.

4 A script isn't written that easily. Sure it does help when you already have a basic idea of what you want in the 2nd and 3rd sequels , but it doesn't really mean anything. I'll take the example of X2 which was also a no brainer after the success of X1. And how long did it take to appear after X1....3 years.


5 True , it doesn't take 2 years to film.
IT DOES HOWEVER TAKE 2 years to create complex VFX sequences.
To give you an example of how long post-prod. on BIG budget VFX blockbusters take place

Spiderman 3 : 2 years.
Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions : 4 years
Star Wars Ep 2 and Ep 3 : 1.5 years.

The fact that sequel is going to be a bigger movie in terms of size and scope then returns , means that they'll take even longer to create the VFX. Also i really don';t tink that Returns had a shooting schedule of 15 months. No big budget movie has that kind of shooting schedule , unless you're talking about back to back sequels such as Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions and Lord Of The Rings.
http://movies.about.com/od/superman/...rman021206.htm
See this article.
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Bryan Singer on Reshoots: Singer said they did not have to do many reshoots. “We have only one pick-up day in Los Angeles, but that was it. What I did was I switched my schedule. I had shot for 107 days [and] originally I was going to shoot for 128 days.
Or this article :
http://www.filmjournal.com/filmjourn..._id=1002726816
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When you're making a film like The Usual Suspects, you have a 35-day shooting schedule and then 15 weeks of post," he says, sighing. "Here we had 140 days of shooting followed by eight months of post-production.
So you see , no 15 month shooting schedule.


Because the groundwork has already been laid , they know how to continue with the VFX. They don't have to start from scratch with the VFX. But they'll have to take their time again with the VFX and as far as i know no sequel has had a shorter post. prod. time then it's predecessor.


and a 6th point to adress : WB doesn't want it's comic book franchises to compete with each other. So a Batman movie is release ,you'll only see a batman movie that year. No superman movie.

In short :
NO WAY IN HELL THAT Warner is going release the sequel in '08

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^^Point well made MG.
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Holidays 2008 confused me, truly sorry about that.
No worries man.
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Still I'm not aware of any other summer blockbusters lined up for 2009 so I'm guessing WB is gunning for Summer '09.
Thats what i think as well though i do like idea of a holiday 2008 release.

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Special effects take forever.

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The working title is most definately The Man of Steel, whether it lasts, who knows.

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There is no way that will happen.

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i CANT be the only one who noticed-

SUPERMAN 2 is WAY too far alog to be out for summer 2009.

1. singer has already signed on. it took nolan about a year longer

2. there is already a title

3. theres already plot discussion

4.Singers is already writing it

but the biggest....


5. THE PRODUCERS SAY IT WILL BEGIN FILMING MID TO LATE 2007!

It doesnt take 2 years to film. Returns began filming in march 05 for a june 06t release date. a span of 15 months.

if superman begins filming between may-october of 2007, then the OBVIOUS release date is HOLIDAYS 2008!!
No, you're an idiot. Plan and simple...

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what is the title...The Man of Steel...i hope they dont go that route...how about Superman:Child Support

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The Man of Steel as a title is horrible.

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I like that title... it fits well with the new Batman title...

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I must say, I wouldn't have much problem with a winter '08 release date. There would still be plenty of time to make the movie (IE: they wouldn't be rushing anything), and it would free up the summer of 2009 for Wonder Woman (if Whedon can't get it out in '08, at least). Not to mention we'll be getting the thing six months early.

I won't comment on whether it will happen, but I certainly wouldn't mind it happening.
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5 True , it doesn't take 2 years to film.
IT DOES HOWEVER TAKE 2 years to create complex VFX sequences.
To give you an example of how long post-prod. on BIG budget VFX blockbusters take place

Spiderman 3 : 2 years.
Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions : 4 years
Star Wars Ep 2 and Ep 3 : 1.5 years.

The fact that sequel is going to be a bigger movie in terms of size and scope then returns , means that they'll take even longer to create the VFX.
Spider-Man 3 didn't have 2 years of post production.

They started filming in Janurary of this year, until about the end of the summer (I think). That gives them (roughly) 9 months of post.

Not to mention, Spider-Man 2 (which was a bigger movie in terms of size and scope than SM1) was released a straight 2 years and 2 months after the first film.

Also, releasing SR in the winter of '08 would in no way make it be in competition with The Dark Knight. That seems to be a common misconception with people, they think it matters which movie made the most in this year or that year, all that really matters is if one movie steals another movie's box office. And since TDK will have been out of theaters a solid 2-3 months before the Superman movie would release in November or December, there wouldn't be any competition to speak of.

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I must say, I wouldn't have much problem with a winter '08 release date. There would still be plenty of time to make the movie (IE: they wouldn't be rushing anything), and it would free up the summer of 2009 for Wonder Woman (if Whedon can't get it out in '08, at least). Not to mention we'll be getting the thing six months early.

I won't comment on whether it will happen, but I certainly wouldn't mind it happening.
Spider-Man 3 didn't have 2 years of post production.

They started filming in Janurary of this year, until about the end of the summer (I think). That gives them (roughly) 9 months of post.

Not to mention, Spider-Man 2 (which was a bigger movie in terms of size and scope than SM1) was released a straight 2 years and 2 months after the first film.

Also, releasing SR in the winter of '08 would in no way make it be in competition with The Dark Knight. That seems to be a common misconception with people, they think it matters which movie made the most in this year or that year, all that really matters is if one movie steals another movie's box office. And since TDK will have been out of theaters a solid 2-3 months before the Superman movie would release in November or December, there wouldn't be any competition to speak of.
That is true , if you'd consider the period after all scenes have been filmed.
But some of the more difficult VFX shots were filmed ahead before principal photography began.
So as principal photography began , so did early work on the VFX.
Granted everything kicks into overdrive oncne shooting is all done , but if you'd look at how long it takes to make certain VFX sequences , you'll see that they can take up to 2 years to create.

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There's no way WB would release this in the same year as TDK, sorry i just cant see it, Summer 2009 is when it will be released IMO.

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I must say, I wouldn't have much problem with a winter '08 release date. There would still be plenty of time to make the movie (IE: they wouldn't be rushing anything), and it would free up the summer of 2009 for Wonder Woman (if Whedon can't get it out in '08, at least). Not to mention we'll be getting the thing six months early.

I won't comment on whether it will happen, but I certainly wouldn't mind it happening.
Spider-Man 3 didn't have 2 years of post production.

They started filming in Janurary of this year, until about the end of the summer (I think). That gives them (roughly) 9 months of post.


Not to mention, Spider-Man 2 (which was a bigger movie in terms of size and scope than SM1) was released a straight 2 years and 2 months after the first film.

Also, releasing SR in the winter of '08 would in no way make it be in competition with The Dark Knight. That seems to be a common misconception with people, they think it matters which movie made the most in this year or that year, all that really matters is if one movie steals another movie's box office. And since TDK will have been out of theaters a solid 2-3 months before the Superman movie would release in November or December, there wouldn't be any competition to speak of.
i dont know everything. but i do know that there was test filming in november 2005. and if i rmember correctly they even shot the most complex shots in 2005 already to see if it is good enough. plus since in june they made a lot of effects for the teaser i think they started worgin on the effects already in februar.

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Anyway, the working title for the new Supes flick is rumored to be 'Superman: The Man of Steel' and not just 'The Man of Steel'...

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