The man who laughs: The Joker thread

[ghost_x]

I still want Larry David for Vulture

[uchiha_itachi]

lol that would be funny

[ghost_x]

His moaning would really bring something to the Spiderman series. It'll be the first time Peter hasn't whined

[uchiha_itachi]

but then theres the danger you would get a scene with both of them trying to out whine each other..that would probly be there final fight

[3 Dev Adam]

Sorry, but judging by this image, this is the worst Joker concept ever. Even Cesar Romero was a better joker with the painted on moustache. Once agains, fans prove that they can do a better job than WB and their millions.

[uchiha_itachi]

^ but he looks un-realistic. just wait for footage til you judge properly.i have faith it will be great

[ghost_x]

Peter and Sandman basically outwhined eachother in the battle royale, so I suppose it couldn't be rehashed. What about a thumbwar?

[3 Dev Adam]

Unrealistic my ass. The nose bridge looks funny but I DO know people who look like Joker in real life, big nose and all.

And while we're at it, when we're talking about a traumatized rich kid who was trained by ninjas and dresses as a flying rodent to fight crime, "realistic" is NOT the operative word.

[ghost_x]

Ledger is going to own this role, I can promise it

[ghost_x]

There are far more ninja vigiliantes than clown anarchists

[Two-Face]

Originally Posted by 3 Dev Adam

Sorry, but judging by this image, this is the worst Joker concept ever. Even Cesar Romero was a better joker with the painted on moustache. Once agains, fans prove that they can do a better job than WB and their millions.

That's just one picture, wait til you seen the movie.

[regwec]

I can't be bothered to read all of the reactions to the "image", though I imagine that it is safe to say that many who would have deplored it were it crafted by a fan have had a Damascean conversion now that it is "official".

It looks dreadful. Not "alarming", or "different", or "shocking". Just...crap. The face looks fat, messy and somehow pathetic. The eyes are sleepy- there is no spark of intelligence there. The mouth is a mess, which I suppose it central to the concept, but it is actually just a distraction from the man behind it, which makes Ledger's job a lot more difficult. Why is their paint smeared around the mouth? What does that say about "The Joker's" character? That it is ruined.

I am truly, bitterly disappointed. This could not be any worse.

[Punch]

Originally Posted by 3 Dev Adam

Sorry, but judging by this image, this is the worst Joker concept ever. Even Cesar Romero was a better joker with the painted on moustache. Once agains, fans prove that they can do a better job than WB and their millions.

Thank God you're not making this film

[Mike_D202]

Originally Posted by 3 Dev Adam

Unrealistic my ass. The nose bridge looks funny but I DO know people who look like Joker in real life, big nose and all.

And while we're at it, when we're talking about a traumatized rich kid who was trained by ninjas and dresses as a flying rodent to fight crime, "realistic" is NOT the operative word.

Oh jeeze, if you want something thats exactly like the comic/cartoon then go beg Aron Shonke (or whatever his last name is) or Sandy Collora to make another fan film, let Chris Nolan realize his vision.

I'm all for a realistic approach to Batman (well as realistic as you can get).

[dark_b]

Originally Posted by regwec

I can't be bothered to read all of the reactions to the "image", though I imagine that it is safe to say that many who would have deplored it were it crafted by a fan have had a Damascean conversion now that it is "official".

It looks dreadful. Not "alarming", or "different", or "shocking". Just...crap. The face looks fat, messy and somehow pathetic. The eyes are sleepy- there is no spark of intelligence there. The mouth is a mess, which I suppose it central to the concept, but it is actually just a distraction from the man behind it, which makes Ledger's job a lot more difficult. Why is their paint smeared around the mouth? What does that say about "The Joker's" character? That it is ruined.

I am truly, bitterly disappointed. This could not be any worse.

so this is hte worst joker that they could have done?

[regwec]

It's the worst it could be without a wilfull attempt at parody, yes.

[Hunter Rider]

Originally Posted by regwec

I can't be bothered to read all of the reactions to the "image", though I imagine that it is safe to say that many who would have deplored it were it crafted by a fan have had a Damascean conversion now that it is "official".

It looks dreadful. Not "alarming", or "different", or "shocking". Just...crap. The face looks fat, messy and somehow pathetic. The eyes are sleepy- there is no spark of intelligence there. The mouth is a mess, which I suppose it central to the concept, but it is actually just a distraction from the man behind it, which makes Ledger's job a lot more difficult. Why is their paint smeared around the mouth? What does that say about "The Joker's" character? That it is ruined.

100% agreed

[uchiha_itachi]

Originally Posted by ghost_x

Peter and Sandman basically outwhined eachother in the battle royale, so I suppose it couldn't be rehashed. What about a thumbwar?

that could work. and that just reminded me of a funni program i saw once called bat-thumb lol oooh now thats good comedy.

[uchiha_itachi]

Originally Posted by ghost_x

Ledger is going to own this role, I can promise it

i have a hell of alot of faith that he will

[hannya]

Originally Posted by regwec

It's the worst it could be without a wilfull attempt at parody, yes.

Oh! I think this really has split the vote straight down the middle. I love the concept, but I agree that the execution is puzzlingly low key. There was no need to reveal the Joker this early, and I would have preferred the promotion photograph to have been the cackling, demonic ledger Joker in all his glory. While I'm personally delighted by the design I think it's a shame that Nolan seems to have (deliberately?) disappointed a lot of fans. And I'm convinced now that he's chosen the gashed smile route because he couldn't get Sean Penn. Ledger doesn't look like the Joker, so he's changed the look of the Joker to compensate. To which I repeat for the umpteenth time: Ryan bloody Gosling!!!

[Two-Face]

You guys forgot Joker from The Batman, that's worse.

[Ultimate_Superman]

I like the Jokers look he reminds me alot like Supreme Powers Joker

[Nepenthes]

I'm beginning to like it a lot more but ONLY on the condition that he won't look like that the entire film, and the scarring is subtle and flesh-toned underneath the make-up. We also don't know if his lips are permanently red under that make-up.

As an idea I think it's got a lot of legs, and will make a BIG impression on general audiences. It also can also be made to fit the character of the Joker quite nicely, despite the initial dissonance of scarring and messy make-up on the Joker. Remember we will probably get to the the 'classical' Joker before the mouth accident.

People should also accept that it IS a shiiity photograph taken on a weird angle with a deliberately vague lighting and posing.

[hannya]

Originally Posted by Nepenthes

People should also accept that it IS a shiiity photograph taken on a weird angle with a deliberately vague lighting and posing.

Yes, I think it's supposed to suggest he took it himself on a cellphone camera

[regwec]

Originally Posted by Nepenthes

People should also accept that it IS a shiiity photograph taken on a weird angle with a deliberately vague lighting and posing.

But it is all we have, and I think that it looks really, really dreadful. And neither the angle of the camera nor the brightness of the light alters the fact that a truly misguided concept lies beneath the makeup. All of the phoney leaked pictures were better than this, and I curse myself for assuming that Nolan would not be so arrogant as to ruin such a legendary character in such a ham fisted fashion.

I don't want to provoke a fight here, and I am genuinely pleased for those of you who like this concept (that is, those of you who instantly liked it, rather than felt that you had to find a way to live with it), but I have had all enthusiasm knocked right out of me. It really does seem to recall The Penguin in Batman Returns- an indulgent realisation of the sterile imagination of a complacent director.

The rule seems to be that we get one proper Batman film every eighteen years. I can only hope that I haven't outgrown this particular quirk of interest by the time I am 41...