Young women, Older men

[PyroChamber]

For the ladies here, have you ever dated (or certainly dating) someone who was WAY older than you; and if not, would you ever do it?

I guess I ask because I recently found that Katharine McPhee's boyfriend is 41 while she's 22.

[Kaleb]

my sisters friends is 17 and she is going out with a 32yr old man.

[psychocheeseman]

i think its kinda funny when the age gap is that wide. But with younger girls they're still thinking he's cool; cause he's older...while everyone else is wondering why no women his age will put up with him.

[SoulManX]

My uncle in NJ dumped his wife of 32 years for a 20 year old blonde from Temple U.

[Kyalesyin]

I've always said that the biggest age difference I'd do was five years either way. Admittedly, at the moment five years younger is still a crime, but I figured its an easy enough rule to keep carrying. I don't understand why younger girls want older guys. I can understand it from the guys side- a younger woman is a status thing. No idea what it does for the girls except wear them out and make them bitter.

[Erzengel]

I think you only need to go to the Hayden thread to prove this point.

Perverts.

[Halcohol]

Originally Posted by Erzengel

I think you only need to go to the Hayden thread to prove this point.

Perverts.

Hey, for me that'd technically only be a 3-4 year difference... but it's still creepy counting down the days until someone turns 18

[Dorian Gray]

That's because older men tend to have more of this...

[chamber-music]

Originally Posted by Dorian Gray

That's because older men tend to have more of this...

you nailed it buddy. It all about having a sugar daddy who is gonna by them nice things.

[tzarinna]

Well my dad is certainly no sugar daddy and his wife is my age.
My moms husband is also my age.
I've dated guys about 15 years older and it didn't have a thing to do with money. Hmmm,I think I went even older. I think I was in my 20s and dated a guy in his 40s.

[The Apatow Crew]

Originally Posted by Erzengel

I think you only need to go to the Hayden thread to prove this point.

Perverts.

Yes i am a pervert. and it doesn't help shes about 8 years younger then me. but the threads about young women older men so its all good.

[Kritish]

Old men need nookie too.

[Franklin Richards]

I'm 35 dating a 21 year old.



That's right. I rule.



Besides, what's wrong with having fun? We aren't married or anything.

[Abaddon]

ew ew ew ew ew ewwwwww

[Galactus]

May/December Couples Boost Human Lifespan
By Jeanna Bryner, LiveScience Staff Writer

posted: 17 September 2007 08:54 am ET

Older men who shack up with much younger women keep the grim reaper at bay for the human population and extend our species' lifespan, new research claims.
Even beyond movie stars and Playboy's Hugh Hefner, there is a tendency for older men to partner with younger women, according to the study, published in the Aug. 29 edition of PLoS ONE. In less developed, traditional societies, males are about 5 to 15 years older than their female partners. In the United States and Europe, guys are an average of two years senior to their partners.
More interesting, when old men father children, their genes seem to increase the lifespan of both sexes over evolutionary time.
How it works
Women often lose their reproductive capacity around age 50, but if men can still reproduce into their 70s, Darwin would say it's advantageous for males to live longer lives providing they can hook up with a woman capable of reproducing. Natural selection should favor longevity-boosting genes, which would get passed down from fathers to both sons and daughters. So women would benefit as well in future generations, the scientists say.
Result: Over time, the older-guy-with-younger-gal lifestyle would lift the lifespan ceiling for both men and women in the next generations and so on.
"By increasing the survival of men you have a spillover effect on women because men pass their genes to children of both sexes," said study team member Cedric Puleston, a doctoral candidate at Stanford University.
Anthropologist Cheryl Jamison of Indiana University, who was not involved in the research, called the results "fascinating."
Wall of death
From an evolutionary perspective, women who can no longer reproduce are non-players, and since "it takes two," men partnered with menopausal women are also irrelevant.
Following that idea, natural selection should select for harmful mutations that impact women after menopause. Over time, the discriminating genes would accumulate in the population causing what evolutionary biologist William Hamilton called the "wall of death," in which mortality of women spikes at the onset of menopause.
Population records and everyday observations indicate that's not the case. Life expectancy for men and women in today's industrialized countries is 75 to 85 years, with mortality increasing gradually, not abruptly, following female menopause.
Men matter
To figure out whether male fertility could help explain human longevity, Shripad Tuljapurkar of Stanford University and his colleagues examined lifespan and fertility data from both men and women.
They studied four societies thought to closely mimic lifestyles of our ancestors, including two hunter-gather groups, the Dobe !Kung of the Kalahari and the Ache of Paraguay (one of the most isolated populations in the world), as well as the Yanomamo forager-farmers and an indigenous group in Bolivia called the Tsimane. The research team also looked at farming villages in Gambia and a group of modern Canadians.
In all six groups, women stopped having children on average by their 50s, while some men continued to reproduce. The age after which men showed no reproduction varied among the groups and included:
Canada—Men showed fertility until 55 years old.
!Kung—55 years old
Gambia—75 years old
Yanomamo—70 years old
Ache—65 years old
Tsimane—60 years old
Mate choices
Until now, the most popular explanation for the bounty of over-55s, called the "grandmother hypothesis," suggested women get a life extension in order to care for their children and grandchildren.
The new findings don't contradict that hypothesis, but help explain how men give women another boost over the "wall of death."
"I don’t think the finding conflicts with the grandmother hypothesis but rather that it can be considered along with it as explanations for human longevity—there doesn’t have to be a single gene or single selective factor," Jamison told LiveScience.
But why do men choose younger mates and females prefer older men?
"There is a lot of evidence from evolutionary psychology that men are seeking younger women and women are seeking older men," said anthropologist Martin Fieder of the University of Vienna, who was not involved in the current study.
Cases in point: At the age of 26, Anna Nicole Smith married 89-year-old Jeremiah Howard Marshall II. And in 1995, actor Tony Randall, then 75, married and had two kids with Heather Harlan, who was 24 at the time. Last month, 90-year-old Nanu Ram Jogi from India reportedly became the world's oldest father when he announced his 21st child.
Evolutionary psychologists argue that older men have more resources to protect and care for the family, while younger, more fertile women give their male partners better means of passing along genes.
In a study of about 10,000 Swedish men and women, Fieder and his colleagues have found that men had the most children if they were partnered with women about six years younger than themselves.
So the benefits of "age-defying" couples go both ways. Plus, the human species gets a boost.

[Erzengel]

Originally Posted by Erzengel

I think you only need to go to the Hayden thread to prove this point.

Perverts.

I'm f'ing funny.

[Erzengel]

Originally Posted by Franklin Richards

I'm 35 dating a 21 year old.



That's right. I rule.



Besides, what's wrong with having fun? We aren't married or anything.

I got you beat. My gf hasn't even been born yet.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I absolutely hate it when older men, OR women, date someone so much younger than themselves.

I've noticed that age differences that great don't lead to true relationships - they are about some kind of status symbol, or a form of immaturity.

I have never known someone to date someone that much younger because that was who they wanted to spend their life with - they either wanted a hot young piece of ass, or they simply put didn't have the maturity and mental capabilities of their own age group, and were rather irresponsible and immature individuals.

[Erzengel]

Okay....so what's the age limit?

[dpm07]

The last individual I was involved with was approximately 16 years younger than I was at the time. It's no big deal as long as it is two consenting adults of willing age.

[terry78]

Basically, old men want young chicks to impregnate, thereby propagating their seed for future generations. I can understand that. You don't really want your 60 year old wife having to go through childbirth.

[rdh007]

My wife's friend is 32 and her boyfriend is 48...does that count?

[DBella]

When I was 20, I dated someone who was 30. It had nothing to do with money for when we go out I always insist that we 'go Dutch'. What I was looking for was 'intellectual stimulation' that I couldn't find with guys my age.

[Shuley]

Women seek the maturity,life experiance and intelligance of older men.Someone they can learn from and who are able to hold a conversation,women are attracted to that.

[SapphirePrima]

I really don't see the problem unless you're in the mentality of my uncle: "Two old people don't need to be together, That's nasty"

Also dating underage is gross.