Jet Li's Hero vs 300

I_Hate_U_All · 03-11-2007, 08:52 PM

Hero's better. But what did you think was the better tragic story anyway?

The Dark Defender · 03-11-2007, 08:55 PM

Hero would be better if the films before the credits were reversed.

I_Hate_U_All · 03-11-2007, 09:10 PM

I liked how it took its time to slowly unravel the meaning of its story, as this nameless warrior dude plans to assasinate the king, finally gets to a point where he can do it, but as his character arc shows us, he's changed his views about killing. Within th first ten minutes of 300, I knew all I needed to know, the story was so blunt and in your face... meh.

The Dark Defender · 03-11-2007, 09:15 PM

I love Hero also, they're both visually stunning, they both have some great themes, they both have incredible action...

300 gave me the visual spectacle of LOTR and Sin City, with some excellent politically themes about a religious fanatic that fancies himself as God and finds it perfectly acceptable to usurp smaller territories because he thinks bigger automatically means better and he carries on about everything he does being for the greater good, even when he's getting thousands (many of them his own) people killed...
I love stories that give me a social commentary I can relate too; plus 300 is one of the most purely entertaining films I've ever witnessed.

Mr. Socko · 03-11-2007, 09:36 PM

300 was the better film IMO. Hero was good but when he leaves his home after

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

, I got really bored with it until he went back home as a Warrior.

I_Hate_U_All · 03-11-2007, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormyprecious

I love Hero also, they're both visually stunning, they both have some great themes, they both have incredible action...

300 gave me the visual spectacle of LOTR and Sin City, with some excellent politically themes about a religious fanatic that fancies himself as God and finds it perfectly acceptable to usurp smaller territories because he thinks bigger automatically means better and he carries on about everything he does being for the greater good, even when he's getting thousands (many of them his own) people killed...
I love stories that give me a social commentary I can relate too; plus 300 is one of the most purely entertaining films I've ever witnessed.

And it's precisely why I hate you all. Seriously "excellent politically themes about a religious fanatic"

This makes me die inside. Piercings Guy was a 2d as a member of Team Rocket on Pokemon. "Ha ha ha, I just want your earth and water pokemon! give them to meeeee!"

I understand people enjoyed this movie, because it had some cool visuals and stuff but the way they're reading into it as if it had some great depth is frankly making me uncomfortable about who I'm dealing with here on the interweb. It's all good though. We can be civil.

The Dark Defender · 03-11-2007, 10:06 PM

I wasn't saying that Xerxes was multi-dimensional, I didn't think he needed to be. He's a greedy, selfish, ego-maniac that controls subjects through blind subserviance, and that's all he really needed to be.
300 has themetic elements, but there's no question it's primary intent is to entertain and exhilerate, which it delievered in surplus.
I never said it was a deeper film than Hero, simply a more relateable one, and a more entertaining one.

I_Hate_U_All · 03-11-2007, 11:10 PM

Yessssssss, I know. Those thematic elements you say are there were so easy to spot because they were shouted at us every five seconds. I'm not trying to convince anyone anyway of my views though. Like what you like.

Where's that Zev guy who likes to make parody scripts of films on here. He's the best user to read whenever movies come out...

I guess it is up to me. La la la.

Here we go:

301 Spartamations

Slow Motion: Hi I'm slow motion and I'm going to be used in ever single scene to make things look epic and cool, but they won't. They'll just look slow.

Messenger: Give up your land or else!! ha ha ha

Lionodus: No. Kick!

Sarlacc Pit: First boba, now a bunch of Persians. It's my lucky day.

Lionodus: We must fight or else this movie will be boring.

300: Ah OOOOOH!

Lionodus: Sorry for stepping on your foot, mate.

300: It's ok.

Jedi Council: Don't go.

Lionodus: **** you.

_INSERT GRATUITOUS NUDITY_

Lionodus: Ok, time to battle, boys. Oil up those pecks now. We want to look our sunday best for battle.

_INSERT 25 CENTS TO BEGIN LEVEL 1_

FIGHT!

BOOF

ZAP

ZWOMP

BIFF

POW!!

mortal kombat!

Finish him!

Movie: DONE.

Audience: Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

The Dark Defender · 03-11-2007, 11:25 PM

Well you could pretty much give any film an asinine parody like that; I've seen it done many times with Hero essentially being the same story told over and over with "hey wait a minute, this didn't actually happen, here's how it REALLY happened....*10 minutes later* That didn't really happen either, now THIS is how it really happend....*15 minutes later* Ok, that wasn't it either, and now, etc..."

Like I said, I love them both, and of course the primary intent of 300 was to entertain not to enlighten, it was an action film with drama in it, alot of other films are the other way around; I think they can both work fine, as was the case for both of these films.

View Poll Results: Which movie used better CGI arrows?
HERO	2	40.00%
meh, 300	3	60.00%
I don't care	0	0%
Voters: 5. You may not vote on this poll

03-11-2007, 08:52 PM	#1
I_Hate_U_All Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 530	Jet Li's Hero vs 300 Hero's better. But what did you think was the better tragic story anyway? __________________ Movie studios are trying to control the internet.

03-11-2007, 08:55 PM	#2
The Dark Defender Beautiful Bride Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 10,485	Re: Jet Li's Hero vs 300 Hero would be better if the films before the credits were reversed. __________________ Christ turns all of our sunsets into dawns. LOTR > Everything else(except Monica Bellucci) "He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities, the punishment that brought us peace was on Him, and by His wounds we are healed." - Isaiah 53:5 A conservative is a liberal that has been mugged by reality.

03-11-2007, 09:10 PM	#3
I_Hate_U_All Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 530	Re: Jet Li's Hero vs 300 I liked how it took its time to slowly unravel the meaning of its story, as this nameless warrior dude plans to assasinate the king, finally gets to a point where he can do it, but as his character arc shows us, he's changed his views about killing. Within th first ten minutes of 300, I knew all I needed to know, the story was so blunt and in your face... meh. __________________ Movie studios are trying to control the internet.

03-11-2007, 09:15 PM	#4
The Dark Defender Beautiful Bride Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 10,485	Re: Jet Li's Hero vs 300 I love Hero also, they're both visually stunning, they both have some great themes, they both have incredible action... 300 gave me the visual spectacle of LOTR and Sin City, with some excellent politically themes about a religious fanatic that fancies himself as God and finds it perfectly acceptable to usurp smaller territories because he thinks bigger automatically means better and he carries on about everything he does being for the greater good, even when he's getting thousands (many of them his own) people killed... I love stories that give me a social commentary I can relate too; plus 300 is one of the most purely entertaining films I've ever witnessed. __________________ Christ turns all of our sunsets into dawns. LOTR > Everything else(except Monica Bellucci) "He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities, the punishment that brought us peace was on Him, and by His wounds we are healed." - Isaiah 53:5 A conservative is a liberal that has been mugged by reality.

03-11-2007, 09:36 PM	#5
Mr. Socko Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fleet Street Posts: 23,329	Re: Jet Li's Hero vs 300 300 was the better film IMO. Hero was good but when he leaves his home after Spoiler!!! Click to Read!: his family is killed , I got really bored with it until he went back home as a Warrior. __________________ "When a naked man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher's knife and a hard on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross"- Harry Callahan

03-11-2007, 10:06 PM	#7
The Dark Defender Beautiful Bride Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 10,485	Re: Jet Li's Hero vs 300 I wasn't saying that Xerxes was multi-dimensional, I didn't think he needed to be. He's a greedy, selfish, ego-maniac that controls subjects through blind subserviance, and that's all he really needed to be. 300 has themetic elements, but there's no question it's primary intent is to entertain and exhilerate, which it delievered in surplus. I never said it was a deeper film than Hero, simply a more relateable one, and a more entertaining one. __________________ Christ turns all of our sunsets into dawns. LOTR > Everything else(except Monica Bellucci) "He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities, the punishment that brought us peace was on Him, and by His wounds we are healed." - Isaiah 53:5 A conservative is a liberal that has been mugged by reality. Last edited by The Dark Defender; 03-11-2007 at 10:13 PM.

03-11-2007, 11:10 PM	#8
I_Hate_U_All Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 530	Re: Jet Li's Hero vs 300 Yessssssss, I know. Those thematic elements you say are there were so easy to spot because they were shouted at us every five seconds. I'm not trying to convince anyone anyway of my views though. Like what you like. Where's that Zev guy who likes to make parody scripts of films on here. He's the best user to read whenever movies come out... I guess it is up to me. La la la. Here we go: 301 Spartamations Slow Motion: Hi I'm slow motion and I'm going to be used in ever single scene to make things look epic and cool, but they won't. They'll just look slow. Messenger: Give up your land or else!! ha ha ha Lionodus: No. Kick! Sarlacc Pit: First boba, now a bunch of Persians. It's my lucky day. Lionodus: We must fight or else this movie will be boring. 300: Ah OOOOOH! Lionodus: Sorry for stepping on your foot, mate. 300: It's ok. Jedi Council: Don't go. Lionodus: ** you. _INSERT GRATUITOUS NUDITY_ Lionodus: Ok, time to battle, boys. Oil up those pecks now. We want to look our sunday best for battle. _INSERT 25 CENTS TO BEGIN LEVEL 1_ FIGHT! BOOF ZAP ZWOMP BIFF POW!! mortal kombat! Finish him! Movie: DONE. Audience: Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. __________________ Movie studios are trying to control the internet.**

03-11-2007, 11:25 PM	#9
The Dark Defender Beautiful Bride Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 10,485	Re: Jet Li's Hero vs 300 Well you could pretty much give any film an asinine parody like that; I've seen it done many times with Hero essentially being the same story told over and over with "hey wait a minute, this didn't actually happen, here's how it REALLY happened....10 minutes later That didn't really happen either, now THIS is how it really happend....15 minutes later Ok, that wasn't it either, and now, etc..." Like I said, I love them both, and of course the primary intent of 300 was to entertain not to enlighten, it was an action film with drama in it, alot of other films are the other way around; I think they can both work fine, as was the case for both of these films. __________________ Christ turns all of our sunsets into dawns. LOTR > Everything else(except Monica Bellucci) "He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities, the punishment that brought us peace was on Him, and by His wounds we are healed." - Isaiah 53:5 A conservative is a liberal that has been mugged by reality. Last edited by The Dark Defender; 03-11-2007 at 11:29 PM.

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