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Old 06-12-2007, 12:41 PM   #126
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I don't get the point "New Krypton", theirs nothing their.

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Old 06-12-2007, 01:22 PM   #127
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I don't get the point "New Krypton", theirs nothing their.
It wasn't finished transforming when it was thrown into space. Given more time, there's no telling what all could have appeared.

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Old 06-12-2007, 01:25 PM   #128
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It wasn't finished transforming when it was thrown into space. Given more time, there's no telling what all could have appeared.
I suppose, but clearly nothing with a pulse will be their, Unless the crytsals can create life from nothing.

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Old 06-12-2007, 01:49 PM   #129
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I suppose, but clearly nothing with a pulse will be their, Unless the crytsals can create life from nothing.
It seems to all depend on how you utilize them. If the one crystal managed to fuse Kryptonite into earth material (mud, dirt, rock, seawater) and start the formation of New Krypton.....then we don't know what can be formed by combining the other crystals with other materials.

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Old 06-12-2007, 01:52 PM   #130
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It seems to all depend on how you utilize them. If the one crystal managed to fuse Kryptonite into earth material (mud, dirt, rock, seawater) and start the formation of New Krypton.....then we don't know what can be formed by combining the other crystals with other materials.

But its floating in deep space.

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Old 06-12-2007, 01:57 PM   #131
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But its floating in deep space.
Yerp.....and there are meteors, asteroids, comets, planets, gases.....in space.....it could combine with something to make a space monster for Superman to fight. It could crash into the Phantom Zone with Zod and company in it abd the combination of crystals could break it open releasing them.....an alien could come into contact with it and be transformed.....there many possibilities.

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Old 06-12-2007, 01:59 PM   #132
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Well......if the storyline hadn't have relied so much on Donner's Superman movie......then they could have created a Lex backstory where he wasn't known for being a mass murderer. Then he could be the corporate scientific genius with plans to rule the world.
But of course man. And I'm (and was) all for it.

Still I can see why Lex went with the old lady plan.

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Old 06-12-2007, 02:03 PM   #133
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Yerp.....and there are meteors, asteroids, comets, planets, gases.....in space.....it could combine with something to make a space monster for Superman to fight. It could crash into the Phantom Zone with Zod and company in it abd the combination of crystals could break it open releasing them.....an alien could come into contact with it and be transformed.....there many possibilities.

1.How can it crash into the phantom zone, when the phantom zone is in another dimension? unless your talking about that stupid donnerverese phantom zone nonsense, and....... zod

2. There very little proof, kryptoning crystals can ceate sentient life, because it sure didn't when it was on earth. also superman and lex touched the crystals, and they weren't transformed.

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Old 06-12-2007, 02:15 PM   #134
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1.How can it crash into the phantom zone, when the phantom zone is in another dimension? unless your talking about that stupid donnerverese phantom zone nonsense, and....... zod

2. There very little proof, kryptoning crystals can ceate sentient life, because it sure didn't when it was on earth. also superman and lex touched the crystals, and they weren't transformed.
(1) You answered it. It can crash into the Phantom Zone because SR was based on the Donner vision, and in that the PZ was the flying glass thing.

(2) So what? I am putting forth ideas for people to THINK about. Nothing is created by saying - it can't be done - .....things are created by saying - what if? Lex touched the crystals and nothing happened......but what if he had gotten some blood on it....what if he had held it close and breathed deeply upon it.....what if it was put inside a human or earth animals body....what if the crystals were dropped into the Brazilian rainforest......

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I don't get the point "New Krypton", theirs nothing their.
Don't you read comic books? Where is your imagination?

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Old 06-12-2007, 02:30 PM   #136
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Superman can become an icon again by acting like a man, beating the crap out of dastardly cybernetic despots that one to enslave of destroy us, and then going home with humility and dignity.

I doubt anyone wants Superman to be humanised, and I doubt anyone really expects to relate to him. He should be more courageous, more noble and more honourable than us.

If he has all the same self pity and self regard as the rest of us, then he is nothing to look up to: he's just another crybaby with superpowers.

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Old 06-12-2007, 02:31 PM   #137
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Don't you read comic books? Where is your imagination?
That's what I keep trying to express....so many here don't use their imagination.

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Fortunately I have to use my imagination, day and night.

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Old 06-12-2007, 02:36 PM   #139
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Fortunately I have to use my imagination, day and night.
I've been reading science fiction novels and comics for over 40 years.....a lot of the ideas I throw out here are tame compared to a lot I've read....and yet most here think my stuff is over the top.

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Old 06-12-2007, 03:22 PM   #140
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I don't like a flawed Superman. He can still be given an edge. Not black and white. Having fun with the powers and scaring the bad guys with a wink and nod. I think he can have an edge without being flawed.
I'm not saying Superman should be flawed. He shouldn't. That's not the character.

I was just saying, currently, people like flawed heroes...which isn't Superman.

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Old 06-12-2007, 03:25 PM   #141
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But this Superman was flawed! Granted, he wasn't as f'd up as some of the other heroes but he definitely still had his issues. In fact, this is why some posters and fans weren't that taken with the character in the film(because of the "baggage" and personal issues he had in the film). If anything, he was sort of less the character we usually look up to with no questions asked.
But Superman's reputation as being too "perfect" started way before SR came out, and probably won't change due to SR. As I just said, Superman really ISN'T supposed to be flawed. At least, not in the same way Batman and Spider-Man are. Superman SHOULD be the guy we look up to, want to be, should bring us hope.

Unfortunately, people just aren't digging guys like that right now. Simple as that.

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Old 06-12-2007, 03:27 PM   #142
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Except when they write the exceptional killings (about the lack of flaws).

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need cool special effects action and hot women. superman will rule then, sounds like a joke but I am serious!

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