Would you vote for Collin Powell for President

[Spider-Bite]

You know, I can't say for certain one way or the other, because I've barely thought about it untill now, and we don't have any campaign to go by, but I think that even though he is a republican, he would have a seriouly good chance at getting my vote.

How do you guys feel?

[eat aliens]

I've always liked Powell, I would likely vote for him...especially against any of the current candidates running for the republican nomination.

[Super Kal]

I honestly don't know

[kane9321]

never..uncle tom

[Darth Elektra]

No, porbably not.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Originally Posted by kane9321

never..uncle tom

Can you list some reasons that he's an "Uncle Tom", or just call him names cuz he not down with da hood?

[Warhammer]

Colin Powell, Condilingus Rice...
Condilingus Rice sounds like a Mexican dish. Maybe we should put her on a plate and send her to Mexico, so the Mexicans will eat her.

[jaguarr]

No, and I'll tell you why. When the **** really hit the fan with the Iraq situation and we were talking about going in there, he had a chance to speak up and effect the decisions that were made. Instead, he let things happen the way they did without at least protesting and forcefully adding his insight as a military leader and then came back years later, after the damage was done, and said he didn't agree with why we went in there or how the whole thing was implemented. That's a weak-willed leader, afraid to speak up for what he believes is right, in my opinion. And that's just not Presidential material as far as I'm concerned.

jag

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Neh, that was his intense military "follow orders given by a superior" instinct kicking in, which was so against his nature that after doing what he thought was right, he still had to resign.

If he was the superior in that situation, we would've never even said word one about Iraq, because he wasn't tight with P.N.A.C.

[jaguarr]

Originally Posted by Wilhelm-Scream

Neh, that was his intense military "follow orders given by a superior" instinct kicking in, which was so against his nature that after doing what he thought was right, he still had to resign.

If he was the superior in that situation, we would've never even said word one about Iraq, because he wasn't tight with P.N.A.C.

If he was the President, he'd still have his Republican Party masters to answer to, which he's more than shown he's willing to kowtow to.

jag

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Well, here we can't go too much further because of my unpopular "whacked-out" conspiracy freak beliefs.
I honestly think he objected and Cheney/Rumsfeld, etc. coerced him in some humiliating way.
It's all subjective of course, but to Me, if you watch his address to the U.N., you can see it in his eyes, that his skin is crawling and he's afraid.

I seriously wouldn't put it past Cheney to go as base as "We'll torture your wife to death if you don't back us up."

People will roll their eyes, but, that's what I believe.



Now one could say, "too many lives in the balance. Still proves he's no good."
But I would class that with P.O.W.'s, with a defeated, sullen, profoundly saddened look on their face as they "denounce" the U.S. on film/video..............or they'll get a glass rod shoved up their urethra and have it shattered.



And all you have to do is watch a good long interview with Powell's former chief of staff, Wilkerson, who also resigned, to get the vibe.
He's outright said that Cheney terrorized the staff and told them to come up with Iraqable stuff or the consequences would be dire.

[terry78]

I'd vote for Chris Rock for president. Think about it. Chris Rock as president. Head of State showed me the light.

I wouldn't want to be the first *insert ethnic/gender/sexual oriented minority* president anyway. You're just asking to be assassinated.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Chris Rock has proven that he's unfit to serve as President by directing such ****ty movies and creating such an unfunny TV show.

[Superman]

No. Like McCain, Powell sold his soul to Bush and I have no respect for him anymore.

[jaguarr]

Originally Posted by Wilhelm-Scream

Well, here we can't go too much further because of my unpopular "whacked-out" conspiracy freak beliefs.
I honestly think he objected and Cheney/Rumsfeld, etc. coerced him in some humiliating way.
It's all subjective of course, but to Me, if you watch his address to the U.N., you can see it in his eyes, that his skin is crawling and he's afraid.

I seriously wouldn't put it past Cheney to go as base as "We'll torture your wife to death if you don't back us up."

People will roll their eyes, but, that's what I believe.



Now one could say, "too many lives in the balance. Still proves he's no good."
But I would class that with P.O.W.'s, with a defeated, sullen, profoundly saddened look on their face as they "denounce" the U.S. on film/video..............or they'll get a glass rod shoved up their urethra and have it shattered.



And all you have to do is watch a good long interview with Powell's former chief of staff, Wilkerson, who also resigned, to get the vibe.
He's outright said that Cheney terrorized the staff and told them to come up with Iraqable stuff or the consequences would be dire.

Whatever. Still don't trust him. He's in too deep with the Republicans and is therefore dead to me.

jag

[blind_fury]

No.

Maybe before he lied in front of the UN about WMDs being in Iraq when he knew he was being used by the Bush Administration. That was a blatant act of treason and proved he was a spineless tool.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Originally Posted by jaguarr

Whatever. Still don't trust him. He's in too deep with the Republicans and is therefore dead to me.

jag

Okay.
I'd vote for Collin Powell if it was Powell vs. Andy Dick, or Powell vs. Lyndon LaRouche.

[jaguarr]

Originally Posted by Wilhelm-Scream

Okay.
I'd vote for Collin Powell if it was Powell vs. Andy Dick, or Powell vs. Lyndon LaRouche.

I'd vote for Lyndon.

jag

[StorminNorman]

Originally Posted by blind_fury

No.

Maybe before he lied in front of the UN about WMDs being in Iraq when he knew he was being used by the Bush Administration. That was a blatant act of treason and proved he was a spineless tool.

I love the idea of you calling Collin Powell, a decorated war hero, spineless. It truly makes me chuckle.

[Superman]

Originally Posted by StorminNorman

I love the idea of you calling Collin Powell, a decorated war hero, spineless. It truly makes me chuckle.

What exactly did Powell do to become a "Decorated War Hero"?

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Originally Posted by jaguarr

I'd vote for Lyndon.

jag

I agree with so much of what he says, but he's proven himself to be a demented, out-of-touch fool with dangerous delusions of grandeur and to be honest, my vote there is mostly based on his musical fascism.

He would like to outlaw Rock and Roll because it's poisoning/eroding the culture.
Kind of like the Nazis with Jazz.

[NewYorkSpider]

I don't think I would vote for him.

[StorminNorman]

Originally Posted by Superman

What exactly did Powell do to become a "Decorated War Hero"?

He served his country in Vietnam in multiple terms, anyone who does that is a hero IMO.

Bronze star, Purple heart, Soldiers medal - among a multitude of various metals, ribbons and badges.

[jaguarr]

Originally Posted by Wilhelm-Scream

I agree with so much of what he says, but he's proven himself to be a demented, out-of-touch fool with dangerous delusions of grandeur and to be honest, my vote there is mostly based on his musical fascism.

He would like to outlaw Rock and Roll because it's poisoning/eroding the culture.
Kind of like the Nazis with Jazz.

I'd vote for him because he's so deranged and I think it would be entertaining.

jag

[Spider-Bite]

Originally Posted by jaguarr

No, and I'll tell you why. When the **** really hit the fan with the Iraq situation and we were talking about going in there, he had a chance to speak up and effect the decisions that were made. Instead, he let things happen the way they did without at least protesting and forcefully adding his insight as a military leader and then came back years later, after the damage was done, and said he didn't agree with why we went in there or how the whole thing was implemented. That's a weak-willed leader, afraid to speak up for what he believes is right, in my opinion. And that's just not Presidential material as far as I'm concerned.

jag

those are some good points. I don't want a cowardly puppet as president.