An Empire Strikes Back question?

Warhammer · 06-22-2007, 03:59 PM

Ok, this is yet another one of those question threads. Here we go.

During The Empire Strikes Back, how long would you assume it has been during Han Solo and co. being chased by the empire, and Luke Skywalker's training with Yoda?

I always wondered about that amount of time. It didn't seem too long considering Vader going out of his way to catch the Millennium Falcon. I always assumed that it was 1-2 days. I doubt that Vader was going to go out of his way for more than that to try and find the Falcon. It also didn't seem that Han Solo was hiding/evading from the empire for that long. They'd also have to be on edge every time, so they'd know where the empire was, and I didn't think that Vader would be searching all that time, non-stop, for them.

When Luke sensed Han Solo, Leia, and co. in danger, he wanted to leave. When Yoda tells him to remember about his failure in the cave, Luke says "But I've learned so much since then." I was always under the impression that Luke definitely did not go to Dagobah, become acquainted with Yoda, do all of the training that was showed in the movie, and "learn so much since" failing at the cave all in 1-2 days. Obviously, Luke didn't do all that training, and grew stronger with the Force in that short period of time.

What do y'all think?

Movies205 · 06-22-2007, 04:01 PM

I always thought it was a period of a couple of weeks, there's nothing indictative either way... At least from what I remember... But then again I'm too lazy to take teh dvds off my shelf and watch it

ゴジラ · 06-22-2007, 04:03 PM

Seems like a couple of weeks

Swordmaster · 06-22-2007, 04:03 PM

Since the Falcon's hyperdrive was all screwed up, I assumed it took the crew a few weeks to get to Cloud City. Just my thoughts.

Warhammer · 06-22-2007, 04:06 PM

Ohhhhhhhhhhh...
I guess Vader sure was determined.

HR-PUFF&STUFF · 06-22-2007, 04:06 PM

the time don't add up much. for luke its a few months and for han and leia its a few weeks if that, but didn't luke get to dagouba before han and leia got to cloud city?

Halcohol · 06-22-2007, 04:09 PM

I had always assumed that Luke had made it to Dagobah at the same time the Falcon touched down inside the asteroid cave for repairs. I always figured Luke was there for about a month or so.

The Kid · 06-22-2007, 04:10 PM

luke was injected with more midichlorians

amazingfantasy15 · 06-22-2007, 04:32 PM

That is kinda weird since it took Jedi's in the old days like 15-20 years at least to learn what Luke learned in a few days/weeks.

Halcohol · 06-22-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wesyeed

luke was injected with more midichlorians

That just meant he had a stronger connection to the Force, not that he knew how to connect with it properly.

Also, reading the novels, it shows how Luke realizes that his training with Yoda was a last-ditch effort to fight the Emperor and as such, required unconventional training.

From what I can tell, the old Padawan-style of training focused more on the spiritual aspects of the Force, while Luke's was more about flooding himself with the power of the Force and resisting the dark side.

Mr. Wooden Alligator · 06-22-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Halcohol

From what I can tell, the old Padawan-style of training focused more on the spiritual aspects of the Force, while Luke's was more about flooding himself with the power of the Force and resisting the dark side.

I hypothesize this would be on account of the old midichlorian bio-Force stuff turned Jedi into whiny brats that would sit and roll over when told.

The Kid · 06-22-2007, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcohol

That just meant he had a stronger connection to the Force, not that he knew how to connect with it properly.

Also, reading the novels, it shows how Luke realizes that his training with Yoda was a last-ditch effort to fight the Emperor and as such, required unconventional training.

From what I can tell, the old Padawan-style of training focused more on the spiritual aspects of the Force, while Luke's was more about flooding himself with the power of the Force and resisting the dark side.

Yes I agree there, that luke's training probably focused more on widening his connection to the power of the force. He took his first step on the falcon, learned to do it willingly in the trench, struggled to open himself to it more in between anh and esb, then opened the flood gates when he recieved expert training from yoda. That's why his confidence was boosted, I gathered. He thought he'd gained enough of a grasp of it. It's like a kid riding a bike. just because you've mastered keeping your balance doesn't mean you're like dave mirra yet.

strikezone89 · 06-22-2007, 06:13 PM

ta i would say a few months.

Golgo-13 · 06-22-2007, 06:51 PM

Lets face it guys...it's a plot hole.

HR-PUFF&STUFF · 06-23-2007, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Golgo13:The Hitman

Lets face it guys...it's a plot hole.

star wars has no plot holes!!!!

Golgo-13 · 06-23-2007, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HR-PUFF&STUFF

star wars has no plot holes!!!!

HR-PUFF&STUFF · 06-23-2007, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golgo13:The Hitman

cryptic name · 06-23-2007, 09:23 PM

maybe time worked differently because they were in different parts of the galaxy?

shapeshifter · 06-23-2007, 09:28 PM

I always thought it was a few months. that is a good question though. probably one thing we were not suposed to notice.

HR-PUFF&STUFF · 06-23-2007, 09:33 PM

it not a ****ing plot hole and anyone that says otherwise hates america!!!!

06-22-2007, 03:59 PM	#1
Warhammer Half Monk, Half Hitman Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: B.P.R.D. Posts: 20,616	An Empire Strikes Back question? Ok, this is yet another one of those question threads. Here we go. During The Empire Strikes Back, how long would you assume it has been during Han Solo and co. being chased by the empire, and Luke Skywalker's training with Yoda? I always wondered about that amount of time. It didn't seem too long considering Vader going out of his way to catch the Millennium Falcon. I always assumed that it was 1-2 days. I doubt that Vader was going to go out of his way for more than that to try and find the Falcon. It also didn't seem that Han Solo was hiding/evading from the empire for that long. They'd also have to be on edge every time, so they'd know where the empire was, and I didn't think that Vader would be searching all that time, non-stop, for them. When Luke sensed Han Solo, Leia, and co. in danger, he wanted to leave. When Yoda tells him to remember about his failure in the cave, Luke says "But I've learned so much since then." I was always under the impression that Luke definitely did not go to Dagobah, become acquainted with Yoda, do all of the training that was showed in the movie, and "learn so much since" failing at the cave all in 1-2 days. Obviously, Luke didn't do all that training, and grew stronger with the Force in that short period of time. What do y'all think? __________________

06-22-2007, 04:03 PM	#3
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