Question about The Order

RockSP · 07-27-2007, 05:19 PM

Just re-read the first issue (sorry if this has been addressed already)...

So the leader guy is supposed to have played Tony Stark/Iron Man on tv a long time ago. Um...how? Iron Man had a secret ID for the longest time.

iloveclones · 07-27-2007, 05:39 PM

Good catch RockSP. Didn't even think about that. I guess if I were trying to explain it away, I would say that the producers thought it would make dramatic sense for IM to actually be his own boss in disguise, since they would have to create some kind of identity for him anyway. It might be funny if Tony even sued the show for doing it that way!

LouFerignoDemon · 07-27-2007, 06:57 PM

Probably they had the actor play both people, not necessarily the same character.

PhotoJones · 07-27-2007, 08:45 PM

I don't remember, but was it specifically laid out the Henry Hellrung played Tony Stark as Iron Man? You could do a show with Iron Man and Tony Stark without the two being one and the same.

Darthphere · 07-27-2007, 10:54 PM

PhotoJones · 07-27-2007, 11:42 PM

Well, that answers that.

LouFerignoDemon · 07-27-2007, 11:51 PM

It definitely implies it.

Dread · 07-27-2007, 11:54 PM

As TheCorpulent1 said once, even good books have continuity F-up's.

It is possible that this thing was filmed during one of the many times Tony seemingly exposed his identity. Granted, when he was doing his "demon in a bottle" thing, his ID as Iron Man was secret.

Granted, realistically, I am sure some people might have theorized who Iron Man was long before ID reveals. He was always there at the right time for Tony. Kind of like how Spider-Man is always there to save people involved with Peter Parker or something.

LouFerignoDemon · 07-27-2007, 11:57 PM

I'm just saying that they probably had him play both. It's not super uncommon for shows that use costumes to do junk like that so they don't have to pay more actors than what they need.

The Question · 07-28-2007, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dread

It is possible that this thing was filmed during one of the many times Tony seemingly exposed his identity. Granted, when he was doing his "demon in a bottle" thing, his ID as Iron Man was secret.

I think they were saying that the actor hismelf was an alchoholic.

Dread · 07-28-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Question

I think they were saying that the actor hismelf was an alchoholic.

That too. The story stated that Harry played Tony/Iron Man and became an alcoholic, and ironically, so was Tony. Just Harry went to AA and got over it sooner, and was Tony's sponsor.

Kingfish · 07-29-2007, 09:04 PM

well this was certainly a f*** up. however, one way to explain it away is that henry played tony stark on tv, then once tony revealed his identity to the public for civil war, everyone started saying he played iron man since they are one and the same. pretty simple really.

Varient · 07-30-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RockSP

Just re-read the first issue (sorry if this has been addressed already)...

So the leader guy is supposed to have played Tony Stark/Iron Man on tv a long time ago. Um...how? Iron Man had a secret ID for the longest time.

(smile)

gdatruth · 07-30-2007, 04:31 PM

good catch that can easily be cleared up.
Either way i enjoyed the 1st issue. It was a great way to introduce the team leader while giving him depth we dont usually see in the 1st issue of a new series.

PhotoJones · 07-31-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dread

That too. The story stated that Harry played Tony/Iron Man and became an alcoholic, and ironically, so was Tony. Just Harry went to AA and got over it sooner, and was Tony's sponsor.

Which is a nice little retcon. Those are the kinds I don't mind; the ones that don't ignore something previously stated or shown.

LouFerignoDemon · 07-31-2007, 05:05 PM

Or ultimately alter the story line in some craptacular way. ^

Anubis · 07-31-2007, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingfish

well this was certainly a f*** up. however, one way to explain it away is that henry played tony stark on tv, then once tony revealed his identity to the public for civil war, everyone started saying he played iron man since they are one and the same. pretty simple really.

And you get the No-Prize.

LouFerignoDemon · 07-31-2007, 05:21 PM

Or he would, if they didn't show him in the IM armor.

The answer is fairly simple. They just had one guy play TWO characters.

Anubis · 07-31-2007, 05:26 PM

I'd say it's a bit of both. He played both Stark and Iron Man rather than him playing Stark as Iron Man. And the statements he said on the talk show happened after the fact.

So, since I combined the two ideas, I get the no-Prize. It's pretty too. Red and yellow and brown and blue and purple with stars on it. Awesome.

LouFerignoDemon · 07-31-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Anubis

I'd say it's a bit of both. He played both Stark and Iron Man rather than him playing Stark as Iron Man. And the statements he said on the talk show happened after the fact.

So, since I combined the two ideas, I get the no-Prize. It's pretty too. Red and yellow and brown and blue and purple with stars on it. Awesome.

That's what I said the FIRST time, probably on the FIRST page.

Anubis · 07-31-2007, 11:39 PM

That's nice....but guess who has the No-Prize? That's right, the Notorious G.O.D. Compare your lives to mine and then Kill yourselves!

Dread · 07-31-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Anubis

I'd say it's a bit of both. He played both Stark and Iron Man rather than him playing Stark as Iron Man. And the statements he said on the talk show happened after the fact.

So, since I combined the two ideas, I get the no-Prize. It's pretty too. Red and yellow and brown and blue and purple with stars on it. Awesome.

That's a nice combo.

07-27-2007, 05:19 PM	#1
RockSP ... Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,659	Question about The Order Just re-read the first issue (sorry if this has been addressed already)... So the leader guy is supposed to have played Tony Stark/Iron Man on tv a long time ago. Um...how? Iron Man had a secret ID for the longest time. __________________ It's not Marvel and DC's place to create our stories. We create our stories. --Dwayne McDuffie

07-27-2007, 05:39 PM	#2
iloveclones spooky.... Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 7,130	Re: Question about The Order Good catch RockSP. Didn't even think about that. I guess if I were trying to explain it away, I would say that the producers thought it would make dramatic sense for IM to actually be his own boss in disguise, since they would have to create some kind of identity for him anyway. It might be funny if Tony even sued the show for doing it that way! __________________ Fellow Web-Heads: Join me in a full-on review of our favorite Wall-Crawler.... http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=345971

07-27-2007, 06:57 PM	#3
LouFerignoDemon CLEAN YOUR SHEETS!!! Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 15,982	Re: Question about The Order Probably they had the actor play both people, not necessarily the same character. __________________ FERRIGNO DEMON SMASH DIRTY SHEETS!!

07-27-2007, 08:45 PM	#4
PhotoJones Banned User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Swimmin' in my Money Bin Posts: 24,067	Re: Question about The Order I don't remember, but was it specifically laid out the Henry Hellrung played Tony Stark as Iron Man? You could do a show with Iron Man and Tony Stark without the two being one and the same.

07-27-2007, 10:54 PM	#5
Darthphere Kneel before 'Drox! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Phantom Zone Posts: 82,216	Re: Question about The Order __________________ "When I was in college, I was belittling the woman who later become my wife for not knowing who Boba Fett was, and she responded by asking me if I knew who the Prime Minister of Israel was. Surprisingly? Not Mon Mothma."-BKV

07-27-2007, 11:42 PM	#6
PhotoJones Banned User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Swimmin' in my Money Bin Posts: 24,067	Re: Question about The Order Well, that answers that.

07-27-2007, 11:51 PM	#7
LouFerignoDemon CLEAN YOUR SHEETS!!! Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 15,982	Re: Question about The Order It definitely implies it. __________________ FERRIGNO DEMON SMASH DIRTY SHEETS!!

07-27-2007, 11:54 PM	#8
Dread TMNT 1984-2009 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Brooklyn, NY, US of A Posts: 21,612	Re: Question about The Order As TheCorpulent1 said once, even good books have continuity F-up's. It is possible that this thing was filmed during one of the many times Tony seemingly exposed his identity. Granted, when he was doing his "demon in a bottle" thing, his ID as Iron Man was secret. Granted, realistically, I am sure some people might have theorized who Iron Man was long before ID reveals. He was always there at the right time for Tony. Kind of like how Spider-Man is always there to save people involved with Peter Parker or something.

07-27-2007, 11:57 PM	#9
LouFerignoDemon CLEAN YOUR SHEETS!!! Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 15,982	Re: Question about The Order I'm just saying that they probably had him play both. It's not super uncommon for shows that use costumes to do junk like that so they don't have to pay more actors than what they need. __________________ FERRIGNO DEMON SMASH DIRTY SHEETS!!

07-29-2007, 09:04 PM	#12
Kingfish Sick Boy Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,126	Re: Question about The Order well this was certainly a f* up. however, one way to explain it away is that henry played tony stark on tv, then once tony revealed his identity to the public for civil war, everyone started saying he played iron man since they are one and the same. pretty simple really. __________________ Personality, I mean that's what counts, right? That's what keeps a relationship going through the years. Like heroin, I mean heroin's got a great f*ing personality. 2008 SHH Fantasy Baseball Champion 2010 SHH Fantasy Baseball Champion

07-30-2007, 04:31 PM	#14
gdatruth Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 188	Re: Question about The Order good catch that can easily be cleared up. Either way i enjoyed the 1st issue. It was a great way to introduce the team leader while giving him depth we dont usually see in the 1st issue of a new series.

07-31-2007, 05:05 PM	#16
LouFerignoDemon CLEAN YOUR SHEETS!!! Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 15,982	Re: Question about The Order Or ultimately alter the story line in some craptacular way. ^ __________________ FERRIGNO DEMON SMASH DIRTY SHEETS!!

07-31-2007, 05:21 PM	#18
LouFerignoDemon CLEAN YOUR SHEETS!!! Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 15,982	Re: Question about The Order Or he would, if they didn't show him in the IM armor. The answer is fairly simple. They just had one guy play TWO characters. __________________ FERRIGNO DEMON SMASH DIRTY SHEETS!!

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