Ruins

ShadowBoxing · 09-05-2007, 09:47 PM

Marvel: RUINS. Apparently the most grostesque What If ever written. Can anyone tell me more about it, post scans? I have only read the wiki and I am interested.

Silver Surfer commits suicide.

Captain America and Iron Man are killed for protesting the war..

Hulk is just a mass of tumors and puss...

Mutants and locked up and mutilated....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruins_(comics)

The Question · 09-05-2007, 09:55 PM

Basically, the idea is the Marvel Universe gone wrong. Most of the scientific accidents we saw in the Marvel Silver Age went the more likely rout of disfiguration and death. Others did get super powers, but have little or no control over them. The few Super Heroes there are have been hunted by the government and either arrested, killed, or turned into laughing stocks. The last real hope this version of the MU had was The Avengers, and as you said they were killed by the Government for posing too much of a threat. It's all about Phil Sheldon, the main character from Marvels, reaserching all of this wierd horrible stuff, coming to believe that something happened to the world that caused the good to go bad.

deathshead2 · 09-05-2007, 09:56 PM

Question dude SB wanted stuff not from the wiki. All you did was sum up the wiki.

The Question · 09-05-2007, 09:58 PM

Sorry. I only really skimmed what he wrote.

deathshead2 · 09-05-2007, 09:59 PM

Man ruins is depressing. I think Eli did a thread on this once.

ShadowBoxing · 09-05-2007, 10:03 PM

I'm trying to find a torrent for it right now. It's on Demonoid.com...But I can't register.

deathshead2 · 09-05-2007, 10:04 PM

Are you sure you want to read it SB? Its going to be all depressing and twisted.

ShadowBoxing · 09-05-2007, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathshead2

Are you sure you want to read it SB? Its going to be all depressing and twisted.

Yes, I really, really wanna read it

. I like twisted sometimes.

PhotoJones · 09-05-2007, 10:29 PM

This looks like a question for the Stupid Marvel Questions thread...

ShadowBoxing · 09-06-2007, 12:05 AM

Warren Ellis first work for Marvel from what I've read.

Harlekin · 09-06-2007, 12:43 AM

Meh. Didn't really like it.

TheCorpulent1 · 09-06-2007, 10:09 AM

I thought it was fun. A lot of What Ifs are cool in the same way a lot of Twilight Zone episodes are cool--they offer a glimpse at how one small change could have resulted in haunting, apocalyptic scenarios, thus highlighting the precarious nature of life itself. Ruins was pretty good at presenting arguably the most awful, hopeless potential Marvel universe ever. The art was pretty good, too.

PhotoJones · 09-06-2007, 10:10 AM

More awlful and hopeless then Bendis written continuity?

TheCorpulent1 · 09-06-2007, 10:22 AM

I said "arguably," didn't I?

PhotoJones · 09-06-2007, 10:35 AM

I just saw an opportunity to make a lame Bendis joke and chose not to resist.

TheCorpulent1 · 09-06-2007, 10:41 AM

We all have our moments of weakness.

ShadowBoxing · 09-06-2007, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

I thought it was fun. A lot of What Ifs are cool in the same way a lot of Twilight Zone episodes are cool--they offer a glimpse at how one small change could have resulted in haunting, apocalyptic scenarios, thus highlighting the precarious nature of life itself. Ruins was pretty good at presenting arguably the most awful, hopeless potential Marvel universe ever. The art was pretty good, too.

Yeah, with alternate Universes you can get away with whatever you want to do. That's in part what makes them fun, it can also make it hard to write a truly interesting one though.

Harlekin · 09-06-2007, 11:15 AM

What mostly turned me off from the book was the art. It was... gross.

And I've read Miracle Man, for cryin' out loud.

TheCorpulent1 · 09-06-2007, 11:31 AM

Philistine.

PhotoJones · 09-06-2007, 11:33 AM

Quit stealing my line.

TheCorpulent1 · 09-06-2007, 11:35 AM

I've been calling people philistines for at least a year. I stole it from The Squid and the Whale, after my friend told me about a scene in it.

PhotoJones · 09-06-2007, 11:41 AM

That movie makes me feel weird about acedemic American society.

TheCorpulent1 · 09-06-2007, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by photojones2

That movie makes me feel weird about acedemic American society.

As weird as spelling "academic" wrong while talking about academia?

PhotoJones · 09-06-2007, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

As weird as spelling "academic" wrong while talking about academia?

Oops.

ShadowBoxing · 09-06-2007, 02:15 PM

Got issue 1 today.

09-05-2007, 09:47 PM	#1
ShadowBoxing Banned User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: the Gym Posts: 30,648	Ruins Marvel: RUINS. Apparently the most grostesque What If ever written. Can anyone tell me more about it, post scans? I have only read the wiki and I am interested. Silver Surfer commits suicide. Captain America and Iron Man are killed for protesting the war.. Hulk is just a mass of tumors and puss... Mutants and locked up and mutilated.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruins_(comics) Last edited by ShadowBoxing; 09-06-2007 at 09:24 AM.

09-05-2007, 09:55 PM	#2
The Question Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hub City Posts: 36,036	Re: Ruins Basically, the idea is the Marvel Universe gone wrong. Most of the scientific accidents we saw in the Marvel Silver Age went the more likely rout of disfiguration and death. Others did get super powers, but have little or no control over them. The few Super Heroes there are have been hunted by the government and either arrested, killed, or turned into laughing stocks. The last real hope this version of the MU had was The Avengers, and as you said they were killed by the Government for posing too much of a threat. It's all about Phil Sheldon, the main character from Marvels, reaserching all of this wierd horrible stuff, coming to believe that something happened to the world that caused the good to go bad. __________________ VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

09-05-2007, 09:56 PM	#3
deathshead2 Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,143	Re: Ruins Question dude SB wanted stuff not from the wiki. All you did was sum up the wiki. __________________ James Lipton wrote the theme to Thundercats. Wow, he is a greater man than orginally thought.

09-05-2007, 09:58 PM	#4
The Question Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hub City Posts: 36,036	Re: Ruins Sorry. I only really skimmed what he wrote. __________________ VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

09-05-2007, 09:59 PM	#5
deathshead2 Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,143	Re: Ruins Man ruins is depressing. I think Eli did a thread on this once. __________________ James Lipton wrote the theme to Thundercats. Wow, he is a greater man than orginally thought.

09-05-2007, 10:03 PM	#6
ShadowBoxing Banned User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: the Gym Posts: 30,648	Re: Ruins I'm trying to find a torrent for it right now. It's on Demonoid.com...But I can't register.

09-05-2007, 10:04 PM	#7
deathshead2 Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,143	Re: Ruins Are you sure you want to read it SB? Its going to be all depressing and twisted. __________________ James Lipton wrote the theme to Thundercats. Wow, he is a greater man than orginally thought.

09-05-2007, 10:29 PM	#9
PhotoJones Banned User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Swimmin' in my Money Bin Posts: 24,067	Re: Ruins This looks like a question for the Stupid Marvel Questions thread...

09-06-2007, 12:05 AM	#10
ShadowBoxing Banned User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: the Gym Posts: 30,648	Re: Ruins Warren Ellis first work for Marvel from what I've read. Last edited by ShadowBoxing; 09-06-2007 at 01:03 AM.

09-06-2007, 12:43 AM	#11
Harlekin Business Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,592	Re: Ruins Meh. Didn't really like it.

09-06-2007, 10:09 AM	#12
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,724	Re: Ruins I thought it was fun. A lot of What Ifs are cool in the same way a lot of Twilight Zone episodes are cool--they offer a glimpse at how one small change could have resulted in haunting, apocalyptic scenarios, thus highlighting the precarious nature of life itself. Ruins was pretty good at presenting arguably the most awful, hopeless potential Marvel universe ever. The art was pretty good, too. __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

09-06-2007, 10:10 AM	#13
PhotoJones Banned User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Swimmin' in my Money Bin Posts: 24,067	Re: Ruins More awlful and hopeless then Bendis written continuity?

09-06-2007, 10:22 AM	#14
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,724	Re: Ruins I said "arguably," didn't I? __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

09-06-2007, 10:35 AM	#15
PhotoJones Banned User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Swimmin' in my Money Bin Posts: 24,067	Re: Ruins I just saw an opportunity to make a lame Bendis joke and chose not to resist.

09-06-2007, 10:41 AM	#16
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,724	Re: Ruins We all have our moments of weakness. __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

09-06-2007, 11:15 AM	#18
Harlekin Business Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 20,592	Re: Ruins What mostly turned me off from the book was the art. It was... gross. And I've read Miracle Man, for cryin' out loud.

09-06-2007, 11:31 AM	#19
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,724	Re: Ruins Philistine. __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

09-06-2007, 11:33 AM	#20
PhotoJones Banned User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Swimmin' in my Money Bin Posts: 24,067	Re: Ruins Quit stealing my line.

09-06-2007, 11:35 AM	#21
TheCorpulent1 Gods of Movies SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 153,724	Re: Ruins I've been calling people philistines for at least a year. I stole it from The Squid and the Whale, after my friend told me about a scene in it. __________________ "She doesn't love me! Now I just need to get her to admit it and I win. Somehow that means I win!" - Mark, Peep Show

09-06-2007, 11:41 AM	#22
PhotoJones Banned User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Swimmin' in my Money Bin Posts: 24,067	Re: Ruins That movie makes me feel weird about acedemic American society.

09-06-2007, 02:15 PM	#25
ShadowBoxing Banned User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: the Gym Posts: 30,648	Re: Ruins Got issue 1 today.

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