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Old 09-25-2007, 10:57 AM   #1
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I'm not sure if this was talked about in the episode thread, but I'm not about to read through 24 pages to find out, and I thought an official thread might be useful and fun anyway :P

First off, I'm not sure if some of you remember, I made a prediction back in season 1 that Peter would turn into a bad guy because he would absorb Nikki/Jessica's split personality and gain an evil side...some of you said that her split personality wasn't her power, but I beg to differ and am revisiting my old theory here.

My prediction is that this hooded "assassin" if you will is Peter and he is possibly working for the Linderman group (either Linderman is still alive because he regenerated, or a new character will be introduced as taking over the company), or he is working for someone else entirely. My reason for this is that Peter developed an evil side by coming into proximity with Nikki. This would also explain how the hooded figure wasn't laying on the ground after he fell off the building with Hiro's father.

Further playing off this, I think this evil side is who Molly is seeing in her dreams, because if you remember, she said he can see her too, and Peter would have gained her power through proximity as well, and also Micah's and DL's. This could also explain why Peter was chained up in that storage container...he was trying to hide himself so his evil half would stop killing. This might also explain the "symbol" necklace, someone who hired Peter to kill could have given it to him.

Anyway, that's my call as far as the hooded figure is concerned. Any thoughts or predictions?

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Old 09-25-2007, 11:07 AM   #2
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Yeah. Peter obviously has amnesia. That's just one thing that blows your theory out of the water.

Secondly, I believe the hooded figure was lying under Nakamura. I don't think he disappeared.

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Old 09-25-2007, 12:08 PM   #3
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Personally I think its Kensi. There has to be more to this story than Hiro just goes back in time to help Kensi become this legendary character. It's obviously his symbol and very similar build to the hooded character. Plus wasn't early revelations of the new bad guy that he would be played by a bad guy from the Alias series?

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Old 09-25-2007, 12:14 PM   #4
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Um Did you not watch the Episode? Peter was found with amnesia so your theory is out of the water. Plus Nakamura knew the guy like he was a friend or part of the company

He Said "Out of all of us I didn't think it would be you"

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Old 09-25-2007, 12:35 PM   #5
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Um, yeah I did watch the episode.

I fail to see how the amnesia would effect my theory at all. Nikki never had a recollection of what Jessica did right? So Peter can't remember anything...how does that stop him from being manipulated by someone into killing people?

Also, yes, Nakamura knew him...he knew Peter and Nathan's father, why wouldn't he know who his sons were?

Also, maybe noone is controlling Peter...perhaps his "dark side" remembers everything the way Jessica did for Nikki, and is killing off all the people who were in on the bomb conspiracy that almost killed Peter to begin with...The motive is already there, and the 2 things you said were reasons he COULDN'T be the hooded figure are actually more solid reasons as to why he COULD be. To further add to plot twists and confuse people, perhaps Peter's new dark side found out his dad and Charles Deveaux were in on the conspiracy, and traveled back in time to kill them? He wouldn't neccissarily be a "Bad Guy" for it as much as just his dark side seeking vengeance. Just throwing my zainy thoughts out there. :P

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Dude he knew it was one of the 9 Partners that formed this evil Group. Peter was not one of them so your idea is pretty much shot.

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My prediction is that this hooded "assassin" if you will is Peter and he is possibly working for the Linderman group (either Linderman is still alive because he regenerated, or a new character will be introduced as taking over the company), or he is working for someone else entirely.
Stopped right there. Actually, stopped the minute you said he was supposed to be the guy. The hooded character was in the group with momma P, daddy P, the old black guy that died in the first few eps, daddy Hiro and the other 5. There is literally NO WAY they could add Peter in there, regardless of all his powers because it would screw the continutity up WAY to much.

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Old 09-25-2007, 02:14 PM   #8
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I'm not sure if this was talked about in the episode thread, but I'm not about to read through 24 pages to find out, and I thought an official thread might be useful and fun anyway :P

First off, I'm not sure if some of you remember, I made a prediction back in season 1 that Peter would turn into a bad guy because he would absorb Nikki/Jessica's split personality and gain an evil side...some of you said that her split personality wasn't her power, but I beg to differ and am revisiting my old theory here.

My prediction is that this hooded "assassin" if you will is Peter and he is possibly working for the Linderman group (either Linderman is still alive because he regenerated, or a new character will be introduced as taking over the company), or he is working for someone else entirely. My reason for this is that Peter developed an evil side by coming into proximity with Nikki. This would also explain how the hooded figure wasn't laying on the ground after he fell off the building with Hiro's father.

Further playing off this, I think this evil side is who Molly is seeing in her dreams, because if you remember, she said he can see her too, and Peter would have gained her power through proximity as well, and also Micah's and DL's. This could also explain why Peter was chained up in that storage container...he was trying to hide himself so his evil half would stop killing. This might also explain the "symbol" necklace, someone who hired Peter to kill could have given it to him.

Anyway, that's my call as far as the hooded figure is concerned. Any thoughts or predictions?
First thing, the show made it look like Mr. Sulu got killed shortly before Peter was discovered. Second by your estimation Molly was "seeing" Peter's evil side before Peter ever came into contact with Nikki. Plus the threat is something that's been around for year apparently. If Hiro can't go back in time to save someone, I don't think Peter would be able to go back in time to kill someone.

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Old 09-25-2007, 02:29 PM   #9
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I think it is easy to rule out Sylar/Peter/Nathan.

This hooded charecter is obviously someone we have not been introduced to yet, and is part of Lindermans generation as it was basically stated in the episode.

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Very first post on the SHH boards, I have been a quiet observer for quite sometime... Just wanted to add my theory...
The Hooded guy is Nathan..... Nathan bumped into Ando on the street and planted the picture of Hiro's dad in the paper... Nathan walked into the apartment where his mother was and when she left there was her picture on the wall, but Nathan didn't see it? And finally when the "hooded guy" took Hiro's dad off the building he disappeared or, more like, flew away...
Motive? He's angry that his mother and the group she was involved with all had the plan to have Peter blow up the city. He is getting revenge for what he thinks is the death of his brother.

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Very first post on the SHH boards, I have been a quiet observer for quite sometime... Just wanted to add my theory...
The Hooded guy is Nathan..... Nathan bumped into Ando on the street and planted the picture of Hiro's dad in the paper... Nathan walked into the apartment where his mother was and when she left there was her picture on the wall, but Nathan didn't see it? And finally when the "hooded guy" took Hiro's dad off the building he disappeared or, more like, flew away...
Motive? He's angry that his mother and the group she was involved with all had the plan to have Peter blow up the city. He is getting revenge for what he thinks is the death of his brother.

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it's feasible, maybe he did some research on them

but then again, a year ago everyone and their mothers was claiming that Sylar was Nathan/Peter

anyone noticed the similarities between peter's scar and molly's dream pics?

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Scarred Peter from the alternate future came back to hunt the company founders down!

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and since Peter can already dream travel through time, he might be giving Molly the scare of her life too

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Very first post on the SHH boards, I have been a quiet observer for quite sometime... Just wanted to add my theory...
The Hooded guy is Nathan..... Nathan bumped into Ando on the street and planted the picture of Hiro's dad in the paper... Nathan walked into the apartment where his mother was and when she left there was her picture on the wall, but Nathan didn't see it? And finally when the "hooded guy" took Hiro's dad off the building he disappeared or, more like, flew away...
Motive? He's angry that his mother and the group she was involved with all had the plan to have Peter blow up the city. He is getting revenge for what he thinks is the death of his brother.

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It sounded like Sulu was talking about a group of unknown baddies or one of the nine.

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It sounded like Sulu was talking about a group of unknown baddies or one of the nine.
he thought that it was one of the other 9... he wasn't sure. He was suprised when the hooded guy was there.

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Heres my take on the whole thing...I actually think that because Hiro went back in time and changed the coarse of history by interferring with Kensi, Hiro takes Kensi's place and Kensi having powers (probably immortality) it changes everything in the present. Kensi might not actually be called Kensi in the present anymore and might go under a different name. It would also explain why when he kills Hiros dad he doesnt die, he's immortal and can't die or it takes a specific way of death for him to die i.e. Hilander, but of course that's just me speculating as well. Also the fac the Hiro's dad says " I didn't expect it to be you" it probably means that he knows that inthe past Kensi is an ancient heroe and wouldn't have expected that to come from him. They might have known each other better then the others in the group due to the fact of both of them relating to Japan in one way or the other.

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It wasnt peter, but i agree that he will become bad. We all know the hooded character was someone mr. nakamura knew. and "them" have already taken down other member's of the first group(Mr.and Mrs. Petrelli, Linderman etc; ) which also leads me to think that DL is part of "them". and thats part of my idea. i would keep going into theories but my brain hurts.

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at first i thought it was peter until i saw him in the box now i think its sylar

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Very first post on the SHH boards, I have been a quiet observer for quite sometime... Just wanted to add my theory...
The Hooded guy is Nathan..... Nathan bumped into Ando on the street and planted the picture of Hiro's dad in the paper... Nathan walked into the apartment where his mother was and when she left there was her picture on the wall, but Nathan didn't see it? And finally when the "hooded guy" took Hiro's dad off the building he disappeared or, more like, flew away...
Motive? He's angry that his mother and the group she was involved with all had the plan to have Peter blow up the city. He is getting revenge for what he thinks is the death of his brother.

Tell me what you all think.
Aah, very good. I agree with you here. It's got to be Nathan OR someone we just havent seen.

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I haven't seen a single theory that I, personally, find believable.

It's someone that we haven't seen yet...that's my only long-shot guess.


Try to think about the older Heroes:
Linderman - Dead
Charles - Dead
Mr. Petrelli - (Supposedly) Dead
Mr. Nakamura - Dead
Mrs. Petrelli - Marked for Death

Mr. Nakamura said that there are 12 - including the first three, so there are 7 of them whom we don't know about.

Claude might be one...Kensei (if he's immortal, and if he isn't Hiro) could be one...but other than that, I don't know. That's why my money is on a new person.

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Heres my take on the whole thing...I actually think that because Hiro went back in time and changed the coarse of history by interferring with Kensi, Hiro takes Kensi's place and Kensi having powers (probably immortality) it changes everything in the present. Kensi might not actually be called Kensi in the present anymore and might go under a different name. It would also explain why when he kills Hiros dad he doesnt die, he's immortal and can't die or it takes a specific way of death for him to die i.e. Hilander, but of course that's just me speculating as well. Also the fac the Hiro's dad says " I didn't expect it to be you" it probably means that he knows that inthe past Kensi is an ancient heroe and wouldn't have expected that to come from him. They might have known each other better then the others in the group due to the fact of both of them relating to Japan in one way or the other.
Kensei being immortal could be a good guess. I thought it would be Kaito that had the power of immortality.

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All these theories are giving me headaches. I do agree with one thing; the guy who bumped into Ando in the street, is probably the one who put the pic in the paper. If anyone taped the ep, look at the guys face..i'm willing to bet there's your killer.

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at first i thought it was peter until i saw him in the box now i think its sylar
It's not Sylar.

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