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Old 10-09-2007, 05:10 PM   #101
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i can see how this may be a really good movie, thank god Marvel got the rights back

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Old 10-09-2007, 05:15 PM   #102
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A bunch of generic thugs with the power of gods screams "straight to video."
Screams to me "Genral ZOD and crew"

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Old 10-09-2007, 05:17 PM   #103
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Screams to me "Genral ZOD and crew"
Bah. The last thing we need is for Thor to be Superman with a hammer.

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Old 10-09-2007, 05:20 PM   #104
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where is the script btw?
is it only available to "insiders"?
if not pm me or reply, i'd like to read it.
Closest thing we have anywhere to a script is a Review of the script in the "Karl for Thor thread", I haven't been able to find a thing on it by anyone.

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Old 10-09-2007, 06:44 PM   #105
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Well a big part of Thor dieing was people couldn't understand the Thor speak or old English, Even many writers had problems with it and it ended up making Thor sound like a buffoon.
JMS has prooven this already. Removing the old English is one of the best things to happen to Thor, not to mention making him more understandable to many people.
I think If Mark has written Thor the same way, there should be no problem with the movie.
Totally disagree. Thor's elevated, old english speech is perfect for his character.

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Old 10-09-2007, 06:45 PM   #106
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Well how would you do it. Have Thor fly around NYC saving baby's from burning buildings? No thanks.
Thor's interactions with the human world are vital to the audience connecting with him.

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Old 10-09-2007, 06:49 PM   #107
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Well there's always been a facination to the Vikings or the Norse, according to someone I think connected to 13th warrior.
There are so many different type films that Thor can be Aimed at. Harry Potter, Pirates of the Carribbean, LotR, just to name 3.
Tell that to the creators of Pathfinder.

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You know what they should seriously consider? A video game adaption. Could be nice.

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Old 10-09-2007, 07:41 PM   #109
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Of Pathfinder?
I was excited for that movie, but it was apparently so underwhelming I never bothered seeing it.
Hmm, well I'll seek out that review, thanks.
And I stand by my notion that small, isolated, action packed cameos of not so famous bad guys would always be fun in any Marvel movie.
Even the stupid Wrecking Crew. Just not as the main antagonist!

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You know what they should seriously consider? A video game adaption. Could be nice.
Of Pathfiner or Thor? Because Sega is supposed to be putting out a Thor game by 2009 or 10.

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Old 10-10-2007, 12:52 AM   #111
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Totally disagree. Thor's elevated, old english speech is perfect for his character.

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He really doesn't need the old English. JMS's dialogue for Thor is great. He talks like a GOD should talk like and doesn't come off as a doofus at the same time.

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Not a complete Tool UK, besides you have to figure there's Loki and his complete jelousy he has for Thor, could be written to make Thor look like a tool and get blamed for things Loki had done and in the end Thor gets banished.
Already thought of that, it doesn't make sense for two obvious reasons.

Firstly, that means Loki tricks Odin the 'All-wise'.

Secondly (and more importantly) if Thor is wrongfully banished without actually being 'in the wrong', then his incarceration will be an injustice, not a penance. Wrongful imprisonment would actually turn a good man bitter, rather than make him see the error of his ways.

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Old 10-10-2007, 08:18 AM   #113
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I despise the Wrecking Crew; I've always thought it was a lame idea.
The Wrecking Crew would serve a very valuable purpose.

1. We can show how Thor easily deals with mortal adversaries (by setting him against a pre-powered Wrecking Crew).

2. We can show Thor gradually coming to terms with his powers and fighting prowess (against a post-powered Wrecking Crew).

Its not like anyone is suggesting the Wrecking Crew should carry the movie. They are mere pawns created by Loki.

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That's exactly why I don't want an Earth movie.
On the contrary, you are not a Thor fan, you merely don't want an Earth bound Thor movie because you want Thors coming to Earth to be the start of the Avengers movie.

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You'd honestly rather see the Wrecking Crew than Ulik, Sutir, or some of the other Thor villains?
If you read my synopsis you would know I had Thor fight Ulik in basically the first ten minutes of the movie (in a flashback scene dreamt by Blake).

As for Surtur, the very idea of putting Surtur in the first Thor movie is idiotic.

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Old 10-10-2007, 08:24 AM   #114
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True, might not do much to get people to like the character. Actually I can see this as problematic now, as the movie would then center on the characterization of Thor as a pompous jerkoff, and the audience might end up rooting for Loki, or no one at all... Ugh, I hate to be a flip-flopper but the DB angle seems easier to write anyways.
Exactly. It doesn't make any sense to leave Blake out.

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But I still feel like the audience might find this all very confusing, and wonder whats up with some debilitated doctor dude finding some ratty cane in a cave and turning into Thor.
So you could say it would be a journey into mystery for the audience then.

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Plus I'm trying to figure out how this movie and the sequels will actually be, considering that it seems to be settled that there won't be any Don Blake?
As far as I can tell, if you don't have Blake in the first movie then you simply cannot have him ever without a total reboot. Which means none of the Thor on Earth stuff works, which in turn means they cannot legitimately bring Thor up to date. Thus you end up destroying the franchise with the first movie.

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I actually don't know how they can make the Wreking crew belivable on film. It would be hard to do.
Nonsense. It would be childs play.

They work in a construction site. They are bullies. They get into trouble harrassing Blake & Nurse Foster (on their way to lunch). They get fired (seems they are always getting into trouble). As 'revenge' they rob the construction site, and the manager gets killed by the Wrecker. They start a bank robbing spree where they use their demolition skills to destroy the buildings after they make off with the cash. When Blake/Thor gets back from Norway the Wrecking Crew are all over the papers. Thor gatecrashes one of their latest bank robberies, and manages to apprehend three of the crew. But Wrecker manages to escape and is turned invisible by Loki, helping him evade the police. Loki makes the Wrecker a deal he cannot refuse, and as the rest of the crew are being taken to jail in an armored car, the now powered up Wrecker is able to free them and deal with the cops. They capture Nurse Foster and take her to the construction site where Thor catches up with them...battle ensues.

This would of course be the minor diversion outside the main story of Loki and the Destroyer.

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A bunch of generic thugs with the power of gods screams "straight to video."
Wrong, but you indirectly answered your own question.

The Wrecking Crew are generic (supervillain) thugs and would be used as such. No one is suggesting they should be the main villains or even central to the main plot (which would involve Loki and the Destroyer).

But as previously mentioned (by me a few posts ago) they do serve a useful purpose.

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Old 10-10-2007, 09:02 AM   #117
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Hey, that was basically reiterating my point in fuller detail!
About the Wrecking Crew, and the tricking the All-Wise not making sense.
But yah... You argued your point more fluently so thumbs up.

This is the bitter sweet part of boards, all the damn endless speculating... Its fun, and it holds us over, but it is usually all for naught, and makes the wait longer!

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Already thought of that, it doesn't make sense for two obvious reasons.

Firstly, that means Loki tricks Odin the 'All-wise'.

Secondly (and more importantly) if Thor is wrongfully banished without actually being 'in the wrong', then his incarceration will be an injustice, not a penance. Wrongful imprisonment would actually turn a good man bitter, rather than make him see the error of his ways.



Not based on the evidence so far.
Well this brings up some thing with Odin AND LORD Thor at the end of Vol 2. Keep in mind where Both could "SEE" all, neither would interfer with the natural flow of things, unless it was something like Surtur destroying Earth, or something of that nature.
Also Loki can and has set Thor up in the past, it's just great story telling.
Loki sets Thor up, Thor ands up doing something wrong without thinking (keep in mind it's YOUNG Thor).

If you Remember the Hulk TV movie with Thor, Blake was in charge of Thor and Thor had to do so many Heroic deeds before being able to return to Asgard. There was supposed to be a TV series based on that, but it fell threw, more than likely because of the ALE drinking.

It can work if done right.

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Old 10-10-2007, 10:26 AM   #119
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Nonsense. It would be childs play.

They work in a construction site. They are bullies. They get into trouble harrassing Blake & Nurse Foster (on their way to lunch). They get fired (seems they are always getting into trouble). As 'revenge' they rob the construction site, and the manager gets killed by the Wrecker. They start a bank robbing spree where they use their demolition skills to destroy the buildings after they make off with the cash. When Blake/Thor gets back from Norway the Wrecking Crew are all over the papers. Thor gatecrashes one of their latest bank robberies, and manages to apprehend three of the crew. But Wrecker manages to escape and is turned invisible by Loki, helping him evade the police. Loki makes the Wrecker a deal he cannot refuse, and as the rest of the crew are being taken to jail in an armored car, the now powered up Wrecker is able to free them and deal with the cops. They capture Nurse Foster and take her to the construction site where Thor catches up with them...battle ensues.

This would of course be the minor diversion outside the main story of Loki and the Destroyer.
You know UK, I can see your point, but still, looking at the non-fan point of view, it could end up being VERY hokey. I can see that the Crew would be very cheap to make, but, is it something you'd want in the second film?

I would rather see something like the Saturn people, or somehow the Destroyer, or even something classic like the Lavamen would work.

Thor is rich with stories that can be worked into the 2nd film. Heck even the Enchantress and the Exicutioner would be cool.

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Old 10-10-2007, 02:40 PM   #120
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I just hope any budget cuts don't downgrade the grandeur of the film.. I would hate, for example, to see a proposed fight with Fafnir the Dragon end up being a tussle with a crocodile...

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yah, and paul hogan as Thor!

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oy neither will happen

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Granted the rights are handed over to fox
I can't wait to see TIH and IM so I can hopefully confirm that these movies will be done right since the studio is also home of the creators.

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Well if you think about it, We don't have ANY kind of blog, or Myspace to go to and you'd think that with a movie like Thor there would be one for fan feed back. It worked for IM why not Thor?
Not every Thor fan has the same point of view on Thor, but, the same basic Ideas are there.

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Yah I was pretty excited that Favreau did that with IM, it was interactive, it gave the fans hope, and so far it seems to be developing pretty well.
TIH didn't bother with this though, and despite Norton's input, sounds like it could have done with some more opinions.
Yet it is definitely not too late for something to be done about Thor, whoever is one of the top dogs on this board, and can carry information to whom it matters should make a mention of it, or we should get that guys email who's making it and spam him with this suggestion.

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