RESPECT the CYCLOPS Thread!

[PhotoJones]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

Who cares?

If you're that desperate for some Beast action, you do.

[TheCorpulent1]

No, I'm okay with Endangered Species. I just think it'd be nice if we got to see more sides of him.

[PhotoJones]

Classic Avengers Beast.

[TheCorpulent1]

I wish Avengers Classic would fast-forward to the '70s issues. The really early Avengers weren't all that great.

[ShadowBoxing]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

I wish Avengers Classic would fast-forward to the '70s issues. The really early Avengers weren't all that great.

Ditto. Thor, Silver Surfer, Spider-Man and Fantastic Four seemed to be the only things Stan Lee (and Kirby/Ditko) really had a handle on. The rest was meh.

[TheCorpulent1]

It's not so much that they were terrible or anything. They just hadn't hit their stride and found the identity that I came to love until well into their run. When some of the originals come back and work alongside Hawkeye and the Scarlet Witch, that's when it'll probably start feeling more like the Avengers I know.

[GL1]

I miss when Cyclops was admirable... not necessarily *likeable* but admirable... that's what Morrison and Singer took away, and, from what I can tell, with Scott's admirability, Xavier's infalibility and Jean's ability to set the status quo all gone... well... we've got a very hodgepodge X-Universe, full of possibilities that few, if anyone, is taking advantage of.

Bring back the Scott we all know and love.

[PhotoJones]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

It's not so much that they were terrible or anything. They just hadn't hit their stride and found the identity that I came to love until well into their run. When some of the originals come back and work alongside Hawkeye and the Scarlet Witch, that's when it'll probably start feeling more like the Avengers I know.

You still haven't checked out Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes I and II, have you?

[TheCorpulent1]

I read the first mini as it came out. I haven't gotten the trade for the second one yet, though.

[PhotoJones]

Those are the last great Avengers stories I think we'll see in long time.

[ShadowBoxing]

Originally Posted by GL1

I miss when Cyclops was admirable... not necessarily *likeable* but admirable... that's what Morrison and Singer took away, and, from what I can tell, with Scott's admirability, Xavier's infalibility and Jean's ability to set the status quo all gone... well... we've got a very hodgepodge X-Universe, full of possibilities that few, if anyone, is taking advantage of.

Bring back the Scott we all know and love.

As I say, back in the mid eighties, he walked OUT on his WIFE and BABY SON. There is nothing remotely, no matter how you spin it, admirable about that. He's always, to a horrible fault, put his work before his personal life. Jean almost changed that...but even in the early days of Claremont, when Cyclops thought Jean died and they were trapped in the Savage Land he said he felt no remorse because the mission was more important.

[Cypocalypse]

In what comic book issue did Cyclops beat Batman?

[PhotoJones]

It was some crappy All Access thing.

[MilkmanDan]

Originally Posted by fifthfiend

I've always liked to think of Cyclops as "Like Captain America, except he's a dick who nobody likes, so he has to work a lot harder at it."

I don't know if I'd go that far. I think the Logan back in the day was the only X-man who actively disliked Cyclops. Not that Cyke isn't a dick from time to time but that's largely because he's basically a mix between a socially awkward dork and a no-nonsense drill instructor. Although Cyke's track record with women really is quite horrible (more on that here: http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/...ad.php?t=18802).

And since this is thread could use more scans...

Sometimes even Cyclops needs to relax and have fun:
http://community.livejournal.com/sca...y/2660457.html

Talking his way out of trouble:
http://community.livejournal.com/sca...y/2419315.html

[ShadowBoxing]

I'll stick some new stuff in soon.

[Vanguard07]

I absolutely loved that eye doctor issue.
Cyclops is awesome.

[ShadowBoxing]

Originally Posted by MilkmanDan

Sometimes even Cyclops needs to relax and have fun:
http://community.livejournal.com/sca...y/2660457.html

The resemblence between me and Scott in this one is pretty uncanny.

[ShadowBoxing]

More stuff from Zero Tolerance upcoming.

[PhotoJones]

Originally Posted by ShadowBoxing

More stuff from Zero Tolerance upcoming.

Carlos Pacheco stuff, I hope.

[ShadowBoxing]

Originally Posted by photojones2

Carlos Pacheco stuff, I hope.

Yeah

[GL1]

Originally Posted by ShadowBoxing

As I say, back in the mid eighties, he walked OUT on his WIFE and BABY SON. There is nothing remotely, no matter how you spin it, admirable about that. He's always, to a horrible fault, put his work before his personal life. Jean almost changed that...but even in the early days of Claremont, when Cyclops thought Jean died and they were trapped in the Savage Land he said he felt no remorse because the mission was more important.

Which obviously sucks for his wife and son... but the dedication to purpose is what is admirable.

Back when I was coming up, Cyclops always used to get the job done, he never let his complete ineptitude with his social life stop him from being the best danged X-Man possible... he was not a good person or particularly emotionally stable, but he ALWAYS did was needed to be done, he always pushed it to the limit, even at detriment to his marriage. The Mission was always so important that he got it done, and beautifully so.

Nowadays, his chronic insensitivity and repressed childhood issues has turned to both prickish arrogance and emo whinyness, which, on it's own is bad enough, but now they've made it inhibit his performace as a Soldier, X-Man and leader, and that makes it hard to admire Cyclops on any level, even a professional one.

Yes, he's done things that were NOT admirable. Tons of them.
BUT as a whole, he used to be admirable... he used to stand for something... now he's just an emo mess who Whedon is slowly attempting to give balls back to.

[ShadowBoxing]

Originally Posted by GL1

Which obviously sucks for his wife and son... but the dedication to purpose is what is admirable.

Back when I was coming up, Cyclops always used to get the job done, he never let his complete ineptitude with his social life stop him from being the best danged X-Man possible... he was not a good person or particularly emotionally stable, but he ALWAYS did was needed to be done, he always pushed it to the limit, even at detriment to his marriage. The Mission was always so important that he got it done, and beautifully so.

Nowadays, his chronic insensitivity and repressed childhood issues has turned to both prickish arrogance and emo whinyness, which, on it's own is bad enough, but now they've made it inhibit his performace as a Soldier, X-Man and leader, and that makes it hard to admire Cyclops on any level, even a professional one.
.

This is hardly the case in Astonishing, which is the only X-title he is appearing in right now in any major capacity, and as photojones points out I doubt this is the case in MC.

In fact, the worst case of this I can think of is X-Factor #1-(let's say) 16. He was really, really, really prickish and childish back in the mid eighties. So much so he allowed Angel to constantly upstage him, caused Jean to virtually hate him, he'd lash out at the young mutant recruits like Rusty, Rictor and Skids and he even had trouble holding the team together. Hell, he even ran away from the team once to try to reunite with his wife and kid who he hadn't seen for over 13 issues at that point.

[Max J Power]

Originally Posted by ShadowBoxing

Being a total f***ing bada$$

That was probably my favorite Cyclops moment ever. The one exception to my usual dislike for the character in the post-Morrison days.

[Hulkster]

Cyclops looks awesome in that pic.

[Kitsune]

I have proof that Cyclops can beat Batman