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Old 10-22-2007, 08:27 AM   #351
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ok i have a big problem. SR had no action and no supervillain. so insted of taking the next stepp and doing brainiac they wanted to have darkseid? so they wanted to go from lifting planes and yachts to a BIG darkside?

nope.....i am sorry mr. singer but i disagree with you.

losing brandon routh is like losing C.bale IMO(today)
Darkseid is an action oriented character and our we suddenly forgetting Singer's comment?

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Bryan's the next to go. Bet on it. It's going to happen when it shouldn't.

 
Old 10-22-2007, 08:29 AM   #353
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That is usually how these things happen, and I have said it before. People once attached to the sequel will all of a sudden have other projects lined up and wont have time to do a sequel...

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losing brandon routh is like losing C.bale IMO(today)
apparently that is also a lot of other peoples opinions.

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That is usually how these things happen, and I have said it before. People once attached to the sequel will all of a sudden have other projects lined up and wont have time to do a sequel...
Bryan's Harvey film is dead in the water.

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Darkseid is an action oriented character and our we suddenly forgetting Singer's comment?
IMO it is easier to make a faithfull brainiac then darkside. both characters can bring the same amount of action. its easier and not so risky.
IMO it would be the next logical stepp.

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Bingo, Showtime....

 
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I think that is the next report you will hear.
I agree. I think it was all decided months ago, but we're just now getting some info about it.
I also think that routh won't return either, because *IF* J.L. is a huge success, they'll wanna use that Superman actor in M.O.S as well. All MHO.

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Darkseid is an action oriented character and our we suddenly forgetting Singer's comment?
Darkseid = all action, no story (aka X3: Singer style)... IMO anyways

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Darkseid = all action, no story (aka X3: Singer style)... IMO anyways
Thats what a lot of people were asking for. Thats what we will probably get with JL.

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The problem is two-fold. WB sees the kind of numbers that Spider-Man makes and think that Superman, being the first, can make those kind of numbers. But the problem is the character itself. Superman, today, isn't Batman, isn't Spider-Man for today's audiences.

 
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Superman isn't that bright of a character. He can be dark, and for the most part, he is/was.
Most oif the boos ive read are light in tone and have a sense of fun, i guess he'd need to find a balance.

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What some of you are failing to realize is that Singer was calling the shots, even with the script. Mike and Dan would write and work on the script which in turn was either OKed or nixed by Singer.
So are you saying Singer messed up some of their better ideas Showy ?

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Which is a shame. Fox won't let him finish his X-Men trilogy. WB and "some" fans don't want him to finish what he had in mind on Superman. I mean, didn't WB learn it's lesson with Donner all those years ago?

You would think they would've...
Difference is Donner made a universally loved and praised movie.

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Darkseid = all action, no story (aka X3: Singer style)... IMO anyways
could be. in my honest opinion i think that brainiac is a smarter villain and it would be easier to make a movie with him.

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I want a film that has just as important action as there is story... hold both as equals

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So are you saying Singer messed up some of their better ideas Showy?
there's always that chance...

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Difference is Donner made a universally loved and praised movie.
my thoughts exactly

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I want a film that has just as important action as there is story... hold both as equals
i think we all want this. i am a little losing faith in singer if this is true. darkside is to much.
maybe he had the perfect story for the sequel that even you kakarot would like. i think we all agree that we have to get this script with darkside on the internet to see if singer deserved a second chance.

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And yet, they still replaced Donner and we know what happened next. The same will happen with Superman if they get rid of Singer. The past will repeat itself.

Get an action director and all you'll get is action with no story and no character and no plot. You can bank on it.

Again, look at Blade Trinity after Blade 2. Look at X-Men The Last Stand after X2. Look at Spider-Man 3 after Spider-Man 2.

Studio interference never, ever turns out well.....

 
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Singer and his team deserve one more shot. The worldwide box office and DVD sales sort of dictate that they should get another shot....

 
Old 10-22-2007, 08:37 AM   #369
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NOOOOOOOOO!!!

It's like what happened to Donner all over again!!!!!!!

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And yet, they still replaced Donner and we know what happened next. The same will happen with Superman if they get rid of Singer. The past will repeat itself.

Get an action director and all you'll get is action with no story and no character and no plot. You can bank on it.

Again, look at Blade Trinity after Blade 2. Look at X-Men The Last Stand after X2. Look at Spider-Man 3 after Spider-Man 2.

Studio interference never, ever turns out well.....
The point is in those instances the director change came about for reasons that didn't make sense, here they do make sense.

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NOOOOOOOOO!!!

It's like what happened to Donner all over again!!!!!!!
except this time, the changes will definitely be for the better

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How do they make sense when the respond to Superman Returns, both from critics, fans, and the audience is pretty evenly split down the middle?

I mean, what did WB expect to get after spending countless amounts of dollars on rebooting the character (trying to catch up on the comic book craze) and countless restarts with a character that isn't exactly HIP today?

They're lucky to get a film that even resembles a good story after the crap that was thrown their way over the years on this character.

 
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Singer and his team deserve one more shot. The worldwide box office and DVD sales sort of dictate that they should get another shot....
Not really, the movie made a LOT less than this years summer tent poles, hell it made less than the Bourne Ultimatum, that is not a good base to make a sequel from,

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except this time, the changes will definitely be for the better
Indeed. Maybe if we're lucky, they'll replace the cast too and completely start over.

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How do they make sense when the respond to Superman Returns, both from critics, fans, and the audience is pretty evenly split down the middle?

I mean, what did WB expect to get after spending countless amounts of dollars on rebooting the character (trying to catch up on the comic book craze) and countless restarts with a character that isn't exactly HIP today?

They're lucky to get a film that even resembles a good story after the crap that was thrown their way over the years on this character.
Because split down the middle from the fans and the paying public is not good enough when you fork over the kind of budget SR had, you need ppl to love it and i don't think taking an attitude of "Oh well it could have done worse" is the key to success in any walk of life.

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