The Official Mike Dougherty & Dan Harris Thread - Page 2

igotatromboner · 10-21-2006, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Freddy_Krueger

A lot of directors do work with the same people. Spielberg COULD get someone besides John Williams to score his movies, but he likes working with John so he keeps him.

The same with Singer and Dougherty/Harris.

I'm sorry, but when was the last time anyone complained about Spielberg or Williams? Probably Spielberg's 1941 right? Singer and company aren't even on that level so don't even compare them. I'm fine for people working together more than once, but they need to consistently bring some good ideas to the table. Superman Returns had a lot of stupid crap in it, X2 had a lot of crap in it, and the next project they work together on will have a lot of stupid crap in it.

Freddy_Krueger · 10-21-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by igotatromboner

I'm sorry, but when was the last time anyone complained about Spielberg or Williams? Probably Spielberg's 1941 right? Singer and company aren't even on that level so don't even compare them. I'm fine for people working together more than once, but they need to consistently bring some good ideas to the table. Superman Returns had a lot of stupid crap in it, X2 had a lot of crap in it, and the next project they work together on will have a lot of stupid crap in it.

In your opinion. Regardless, my point remains the same: directors have certain people they are more comfortable working with--whether they be writers, cutters, composers, actors, what have you. Singer likes working with Dougherty and Harris and will probably continue to work with them in the future.

Whether you like it or not.

igotatromboner · 10-21-2006, 03:33 PM

It's guys like you that confuse me. How could you be content with what was put on screen with SR? Those three guys have consistently underwhelmed me. Do you honestly like the crap they do overall. I only see little bits and pieces of cool in their movies.

KaptainKrypton · 10-21-2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by igotatromboner

It's guys like you that confuse me. How could you be content with what was put on screen with SR? Those three guys have consistently underwhelmed me. Do you honestly like the crap they do overall. I only see little bits and pieces of cool in their movies.

He liked the movie. He was content with it because it entertained him. You consider it crap, he doesn't. I personally HATE musicals and think they are the most retarted thing in cinema. That doesn't invalidate that many others like Grease (much to my chagrin). You may see little bits and pieces of cool, but in other circles, people enjoyed the experience on a grander scale. Hopefully, you'll be more entertained with the next outing.

Maze · 10-21-2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by igotatromboner

It's guys like you that confuse me. How could you be content with what was put on screen with SR? Those three guys have consistently underwhelmed me. Do you honestly like the crap they do overall. I only see little bits and pieces of cool in their movies.

I'm not sure that you realize ( but i could be wrong) that i could tell you the exact same things but ..reversed.

That kind of dialogue goes nowhere.

bosef982 · 10-21-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blueboy

Honestly, I hope we get new writers all around... A Nolan/Goyer combo would be perfect for Superman or any other Comic franchise for that matter....

thoughts?

Since when did David Goyer become a good writer? Last time I checked, when left to his own devices, his movies tend to suck...

Doughtery and Harris all the way.

bosef982 · 10-21-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by igotatromboner

It's guys like you that confuse me. How could you be content with what was put on screen with SR? Those three guys have consistently underwhelmed me. Do you honestly like the crap they do overall. I only see little bits and pieces of cool in their movies.

I thought SR was beautifully written.

bosef982 · 10-21-2006, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by igotatromboner

I'm sorry, but when was the last time anyone complained about Spielberg or Williams? Probably Spielberg's 1941 right? Singer and company aren't even on that level so don't even compare them. I'm fine for people working together more than once, but they need to consistently bring some good ideas to the table. Superman Returns had a lot of stupid crap in it, X2 had a lot of crap in it, and the next project they work together on will have a lot of stupid crap in it.

Oh, you were a lost cause before you even starting posting. X2 is considered one of the greatest comic book movies ever....

Sigh...

Mr. Socko · 10-21-2006, 09:13 PM

By who? You.

Anyone could consider any the greatest movie ever.............................

igotatromboner · 10-22-2006, 05:00 PM

How does anyone that calls themself a Superman fan, and by that I mean someone that reads the comics, accept Superman Returns? Routh pulled off Clark really well, but his Superman left something to be desired. Bosworth was just lazy casting for Lois. You'd think guys that were fans of Lois would know she knows how to fight. "Uh oh, a big scary henchman is coming to beat me up. Let me fall like a helpless victim and hopefully someone saves me." Yeah, that made sense to me too. The kid was something that nobody wanted, and very few people liked. Let's let Superman almost die because of a kryptonite shank in the guts, but later have him lift an entire continent made of kryptonite. Yeah, that made sense to me to. Ooh, we should have Lex Luthor wear wigs and have the lamest evil plan ever. Yeah, because I know I'd want to live on a big, dark, and ugly crystal continent too. Yah, the movie was beautifully written, too bad logic wasn't included.

bosef982 · 10-22-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by igotatromboner

How does anyone that calls themself a Superman fan, and by that I mean someone that reads the comics, accept Superman Returns? Routh pulled off Clark really well, but his Superman left something to be desired. Bosworth was just lazy casting for Lois. You'd think guys that were fans of Lois would know she knows how to fight. "Uh oh, a big scary henchman is coming to beat me up. Let me fall like a helpless victim and hopefully someone saves me." Yeah, that made sense to me too. The kid was something that nobody wanted, and very few people liked. Let's let Superman almost die because of a kryptonite shank in the guts, but later have him lift an entire continent made of kryptonite. Yeah, that made sense to me to. Ooh, we should have Lex Luthor wear wigs and have the lamest evil plan ever. Yeah, because I know I'd want to live on a big, dark, and ugly crystal continent too. Yah, the movie was beautifully written, too bad logic wasn't included.

You people are just so boring. Its sort of sad. Go read a comic book. Leave the adults to decide the good movies -- or at least rational adults.

Freddy_Krueger · 10-22-2006, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by igotatromboner

How does anyone that calls themself a Superman fan, and by that I mean someone that reads the comics, accept Superman Returns? Routh pulled off Clark really well, but his Superman left something to be desired. Bosworth was just lazy casting for Lois. You'd think guys that were fans of Lois would know she knows how to fight. "Uh oh, a big scary henchman is coming to beat me up. Let me fall like a helpless victim and hopefully someone saves me." Yeah, that made sense to me too. The kid was something that nobody wanted, and very few people liked. Let's let Superman almost die because of a kryptonite shank in the guts, but later have him lift an entire continent made of kryptonite. Yeah, that made sense to me to. Ooh, we should have Lex Luthor wear wigs and have the lamest evil plan ever. Yeah, because I know I'd want to live on a big, dark, and ugly crystal continent too. Yah, the movie was beautifully written, too bad logic wasn't included.

God, you're condescending. Did it ever occur that someone who enjoys reading Superman and Action Comics monthly get something out of the character differently than you do?

igotatromboner · 10-22-2006, 09:57 PM

Well **** guys, I'm sorry that I like the characters that have been written over the years, not the characters put on screen with Superman Returns. I read the comics, I've watched the cartoons, I've experienced all different versions of Superman through different kinds of media, and what Superman Returns had on screen were not the characters I've been presented with over the years and I was disappointed. I'm sorry I prefer the big blue boy scout and the smart ass Lois that isn't completely helpless, and the Lex Luthor that isn't an evil real estate engine. Sorry, that the comics and the cartoons brought me up to believe that Lex was an evil genius/ businessman and not some crazed ass with a stupid plan.

Mr. Socko · 10-22-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by igotatromboner

How does anyone that calls themself a Superman fan, and by that I mean someone that reads the comics, accept Superman Returns? Routh pulled off Clark really well, but his Superman left something to be desired. Bosworth was just lazy casting for Lois. You'd think guys that were fans of Lois would know she knows how to fight. "Uh oh, a big scary henchman is coming to beat me up. Let me fall like a helpless victim and hopefully someone saves me." Yeah, that made sense to me too. The kid was something that nobody wanted, and very few people liked. Let's let Superman almost die because of a kryptonite shank in the guts, but later have him lift an entire continent made of kryptonite. Yeah, that made sense to me to. Ooh, we should have Lex Luthor wear wigs and have the lamest evil plan ever. Yeah, because I know I'd want to live on a big, dark, and ugly crystal continent too. Yah, the movie was beautifully written, too bad logic wasn't included.

There is still hope

I completely agree.

Lex is an evil real estate tycoon who builds a continent made of rocks! Genius!

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Originally Posted by bosef982

You people are just so boring. Its sort of sad. Go read a comic book. Leave the adults to decide the good movies -- or at least rational adults.

Nolan used tons of good Batman comic material to influence Batman Begins and you see how well it turned out. He didn't make a lame distant sequel of a movie that was made nearly 3 decades ago because that doesn't know anything about the character.

igotatromboner · 10-22-2006, 10:25 PM

Thank you for your support of logic.

WormyT · 10-22-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bosef982

I thought SR was beautifully written.

"I'm always around.."
"WRONG!"

With all due respect just what part was beautifully written?!
You realise this was a Superman movie and Superman said practically nothing in the whole movie. Last time I checked my comicbook collection Superman is NOT a mute alien. He speaks quite a bit.
Superman Returns was a dull, boring story, poorly concieved, poorly written, poorly acted and poorly directed. And if WB doesn't do something quick, we may not see another Superman movie for another 20 years.

Mr. Socko · 10-22-2006, 11:08 PM

Any back to the writers.

Singer>>>>>>>>>>Dougherty & Harris

igotatromboner · 10-23-2006, 12:05 AM

But Singer comes with Dougherty and Harris so how is he greater?

Mr. Socko · 10-23-2006, 12:08 AM

Poison Ivy: Every Singer action figure comes complete with Dougherty & Harris!

Freddy_Krueger · 10-23-2006, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by igotatromboner

Well **** guys, I'm sorry that I like the characters that have been written over the years, not the characters put on screen with Superman Returns. I read the comics, I've watched the cartoons, I've experienced all different versions of Superman through different kinds of media, and what Superman Returns had on screen were not the characters I've been presented with over the years and I was disappointed. I'm sorry I prefer the big blue boy scout and the smart ass Lois that isn't completely helpless, and the Lex Luthor that isn't an evil real estate engine. Sorry, that the comics and the cartoons brought me up to believe that Lex was an evil genius/ businessman and not some crazed ass with a stupid plan.

I read comics, watched the cartoons, seen a few George Reeves episodes and seen all the Reeve movies.

Guess what? My idea of who Superman is is no better than yours and vice versa. To say that we don't understand who he is is very condescending.

By the way, I would like to point out that prior to Superman: The Movie, Luthor was merely a one dimensional evil scientist. It's because of Superman: The Movie, which had Lex interested in a business (real estate) that comics went and had Lex build half of Metropolis (which *gasp* requires a love for REAL ESTATE!).

igotatromboner · 10-23-2006, 12:19 AM

Poison Ivy? I walked out of SR itchy but what does that have to do with Uma Thurman?

Substance D · 10-23-2006, 09:33 AM

lol, imaginary heroes has a 34% rating on rottentomatoes.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/imaginary_heroes/

the other dude is directing a cheap slasher flick. they don't seem that accomplished to me.

Mr. Socko · 10-23-2006, 09:47 AM

Who directed Imaginary heroes and what is it?

Substance D · 10-23-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Socko

Who directed Imaginary heroes and what is it?

dan harris, and apparently it's a really ****ty movie.

Showtime · 10-23-2006, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Substance D

dan harris, and apparently it's a really ****ty movie.

I liked it, and what is wrong with slasher flicks? They are a staple in the movie industry.

10-21-2006, 03:33 PM	#28
igotatromboner Side-Kick Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft.Smith AR Posts: 707	Re: Dougherty and Harris It's guys like you that confuse me. How could you be content with what was put on screen with SR? Those three guys have consistently underwhelmed me. Do you honestly like the crap they do overall. I only see little bits and pieces of cool in their movies. __________________ Batman>Superman

10-21-2006, 09:13 PM	#34
Mr. Socko Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fleet Street Posts: 23,329	Re: Dougherty and Harris By who? You. Anyone could consider any the greatest movie ever............................. __________________ "When a naked man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher's knife and a hard on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross"- Harry Callahan

10-22-2006, 05:00 PM	#35
igotatromboner Side-Kick Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft.Smith AR Posts: 707	Re: Dougherty and Harris How does anyone that calls themself a Superman fan, and by that I mean someone that reads the comics, accept Superman Returns? Routh pulled off Clark really well, but his Superman left something to be desired. Bosworth was just lazy casting for Lois. You'd think guys that were fans of Lois would know she knows how to fight. "Uh oh, a big scary henchman is coming to beat me up. Let me fall like a helpless victim and hopefully someone saves me." Yeah, that made sense to me too. The kid was something that nobody wanted, and very few people liked. Let's let Superman almost die because of a kryptonite shank in the guts, but later have him lift an entire continent made of kryptonite. Yeah, that made sense to me to. Ooh, we should have Lex Luthor wear wigs and have the lamest evil plan ever. Yeah, because I know I'd want to live on a big, dark, and ugly crystal continent too. Yah, the movie was beautifully written, too bad logic wasn't included. __________________ Batman>Superman

10-22-2006, 09:57 PM	#38
igotatromboner Side-Kick Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft.Smith AR Posts: 707	Re: Dougherty and Harris Well **** guys, I'm sorry that I like the characters that have been written over the years, not the characters put on screen with Superman Returns. I read the comics, I've watched the cartoons, I've experienced all different versions of Superman through different kinds of media, and what Superman Returns had on screen were not the characters I've been presented with over the years and I was disappointed. I'm sorry I prefer the big blue boy scout and the smart ass Lois that isn't completely helpless, and the Lex Luthor that isn't an evil real estate engine. Sorry, that the comics and the cartoons brought me up to believe that Lex was an evil genius/ businessman and not some crazed ass with a stupid plan. __________________ Batman>Superman

10-22-2006, 10:25 PM	#40
igotatromboner Side-Kick Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft.Smith AR Posts: 707	Re: Dougherty and Harris Thank you for your support of logic. __________________ Batman>Superman

10-22-2006, 11:08 PM	#42
Mr. Socko Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fleet Street Posts: 23,329	Re: Dougherty and Harris Any back to the writers. Singer>>>>>>>>>>Dougherty & Harris __________________ "When a naked man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher's knife and a hard on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross"- Harry Callahan Last edited by Mr. Socko; 10-22-2006 at 11:41 PM.

10-23-2006, 12:05 AM	#43
igotatromboner Side-Kick Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft.Smith AR Posts: 707	Re: Dougherty and Harris But Singer comes with Dougherty and Harris so how is he greater? __________________ Batman>Superman

10-23-2006, 12:08 AM	#44
Mr. Socko Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fleet Street Posts: 23,329	Re: Dougherty and Harris Poison Ivy: Every Singer action figure comes complete with Dougherty & Harris! __________________ "When a naked man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher's knife and a hard on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross"- Harry Callahan

10-23-2006, 12:19 AM	#46
igotatromboner Side-Kick Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft.Smith AR Posts: 707	Re: Dougherty and Harris Poison Ivy? I walked out of SR itchy but what does that have to do with Uma Thurman? __________________ Batman>Superman

10-23-2006, 09:33 AM	#47
Substance D Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,201	Re: Dougherty and Harris lol, imaginary heroes has a 34% rating on rottentomatoes. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/imaginary_heroes/ the other dude is directing a cheap slasher flick. they don't seem that accomplished to me.

10-23-2006, 09:47 AM	#48
Mr. Socko Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fleet Street Posts: 23,329	Re: Dougherty and Harris Who directed Imaginary heroes and what is it? __________________ "When a naked man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher's knife and a hard on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross"- Harry Callahan

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