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Old 11-07-2007, 08:44 PM   #76
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We allow mid-level speedsters like Jay Garrick and Max Mercury as middleweights.

Really, that's what Ronan and The Super Skrull are. Clear second tiers compared to ubers/top tiers.

How about Midas?

He has the Fantastic Four's powers.

No shapeshifting. No hypnotic vision.

His extra power is an ability to connect with technology.

Would he make a more clear cut middleweight?

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Old 11-07-2007, 09:07 PM   #77
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Here's Midas (Cosmic Man) in action. The character he's fighting, and being hurt by, is a regular, Marvel Boy.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v3...elBoy06_11.jpg
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http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v3...elBoy06_13.jpg
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http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v3...elBoy06_15.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v3...elBoy06_16.jpg

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What Iron Man armors aren't allowed if you're using him as a middleweight?

His King Thor armor, obviously.

His recent Hulkbuster suit?

The old Hulkbuster suit that he fought the Professor with?

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Iron Man w/ Mother Box ranking?

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Like I said before, if it's limited to the abilities we saw in the comic (like 'protect their users from more esoteric attacks, open Boom Tubes, heal (which takes time), and perform scans') then he'd still be a Mid.

But if he's getting full Mother Box powers like technology generation and armor upgrades, he'd be an uber (like Tony using his more powerful armors is).

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I'd agree with that.

Iron Man + a full blown Mother Box clearly makes him an uber, though, as Wieg has said.

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Final decisions on the Super Skrull and Midas?

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I haven't looked at Midas yet.


As for Skrull, would you agree that Ronan is higher ranked than Skrull? Meaning, if Super-Skrull is top tier Mid, do you think Ronan would qualify for low-end uber? Because, from your scans and what I can find on him, Ronan seems more powerful than Skrull.

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The final descision is that they are mids. I have declared it so it must be.

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I haven't looked at Midas yet.


As for Skrull, would you agree that Ronan is higher ranked than Skrull? Meaning, if Super-Skrull is top tier Mid, do you think Ronan would qualify for low-end uber? Because, from your scans and what I can find on him, Ronan seems more powerful than Skrull.
Ronan uses his powers smarter than the Super Skrull. They're the exact same character for the Skrulls/Kree, really.

Ronan's still lost to Thor II, been one shotted by the Silver Surfer, been stalemated by Gamora...

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Ronan uses his powers smarter than the Super Skrull. They're the exact same character for the Skrulls/Kree, really.

Ronan's still lost to Thor II, been one shotted by the Silver Surfer, been stalemated by Gamora...
Pff, might as well just call him a reg, then.

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Hey, what's Resurrection Man? People say he's a tuber, but I can't find evidence of that discussion having taken place yet.

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Resurrection Man 1 Million was judged too uber because he can basically any power he wants on the spur of the moment, plus Superman-level strength and flight. Present-day R-Man would probably be fine. All he does is resurrect with a random power every time he dies, right?

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Actually, he wasnt judged tuber (that I can remember). Because he's still listed as being on Who?'s team.

(Unless he was judged tuber and should have been removed a while ago.)

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Atom in my opinion is regular.

Atom 1 million was medium because he could shrink to the same size as ray however he could multiply...what feats can ray perform that makes him a match to one million? ill answer that one....he can shrink....but he cant duplicate so therefore he should be a reg....he can still be affected by telepathy cos as far as i was aware telepathy wasnt a radiation wave....more than likely magic can affect him too (but if its waves etc then he can avoid it) and thats all i can think of...

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Er, Resurrection Man was never judged too uber.

That discussion never even began.

Regardless, Who ONLY used the powers he had shown in comics.

So the "any power" period thing is absolute bull****.

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Atom in my opinion is regular.

Atom 1 million was medium because he could shrink to the same size as ray however he could multiply...what feats can ray perform that makes him a match to one million? ill answer that one....he can shrink....but he cant duplicate so therefore he should be a reg....he can still be affected by telepathy cos as far as i was aware telepathy wasnt a radiation wave....more than likely magic can affect him too (but if its waves etc then he can avoid it) and thats all i can think of...

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Obviously most others do too, as that's the ranking both characters have had for years.

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cool.well just need Wieg to agree and finalise him at reg and thats one of the items we can tick off Tims list

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Cause nobody saw them the first time.

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Oh, so R-Man is on Who's team? I guess I'll just forget about that then.

I don't think he resurrects with a random power, I thought he died with a power that correlated to the manner of his death?

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It's random. I've read his entire series and I can vouch for that.

In DC One Million he had a bracelet tech thing that let him choose his power, though.

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Question.

Did we ever come to a decision on the Super Adaptoid and Amazo? A lot of things were discussed, but I doubt Wieg got even half of them.

Why is Earth X Absorbing Man too uber?

Is Creel with a brain really too uber?

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Oh, so R-Man is on Who's team? I guess I'll just forget about that then.

I don't think he resurrects with a random power, I thought he died with a power that correlated to the manner of his death?

If you really want R-Man 1mil, you might be able to convince Who? to trade with you for him.

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Earth X Absorbing Man?

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