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Old 05-28-2007, 11:36 PM   #651
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:39 PM   #652
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If the Kryptonite was not left in the side of Superman and taken out in the doctor's office, then it would have made a little more sense to me. The fact that they left the Kryptonite in Superman's side did not help the situation.
What comes into play here is....there isn't a definitive quanitative scale of the power of Kryptonite. It varies from movie to movie, TV series to TV series, and comic book to comic book.

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But we have to have some standards here, lee. We can't just have tar kryptonite causing superman to split in two. Green's primarily his disabler, then there are a bunch of krypto skittles that do alsorts of stuff.

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Old 05-28-2007, 11:49 PM   #654
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What comes into play here is....there isn't a definitive quanitative scale of the power of Kryptonite. It varies from movie to movie, TV series to TV series, and comic book to comic book.
I agree with you there 100% C. Lee. I understand the "Herculean Effort" displayed by Superman while lifting NK despite it being filled with Kryptonite. Every well played "Hero Story" has an instance of this, where the hero has to overcome some obstacle set up to the audience as being insurmountable. However, I think that leaving the NK inside him was just an icing on the cake type thing, that could have been left out. It's a nitpick, but it was important to me to understand the effects of Kryptonite.

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Also Lee, it seems you are the only one who "gets it". If the movie is this confusing to comic fans, can you imagine how non comic fans felt? It shouldn't be this complicated.

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Non-Comic fans wouldn't think twice about it, they would watch it and either like it or hate it, and it seems to be that the GP didn't flock back to see a sequel. If this was the case, it wasn't because they were confused about the Kryptonite.

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You know Showtime, believe it or not, but I actually believe the sequel will be a lot better and people will flock to see it......well I think the b.o. will be the same as the original but it will definetly be better.

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Old 05-29-2007, 12:00 AM   #658
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But we have to have some standards here, lee. We can't just have tar kryptonite causing superman to split in two. Green's primarily his disabler, then there are a bunch of krypto skittles that do alsorts of stuff.
I believe that is what I said.....that there is no standard, so saying that the K in SR didn't effect him the same way it does in some other version of the Superman mythos is useless.

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I agree with you there 100% C. Lee. I understand the "Herculean Effort" displayed by Superman while lifting NK despite it being filled with Kryptonite. Every well played "Hero Story" has an instance of this, where the hero has to overcome some obstacle set up to the audience as being insurmountable. However, I think that leaving the NK inside him was just an icing on the cake type thing, that could have been left out. It's a nitpick, but it was important to me to understand the effects of Kryptonite.
Yep....it happens in every comic, movie, TV show, and novel with a hero....he pulls himself up at the last moment, and overcoming unbelievable odds he wins the day.

Everyone acts like they never saw this before.

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Also Lee, it seems you are the only one who "gets it". If the movie is this confusing to comic fans, can you imagine how non comic fans felt? It shouldn't be this complicated.
All I am doing is giving a plausable answer to people on here who question how some things occured. I don't expect the general public to understand or know it or for the average comic fan to.....some people have said definatively that certain things could not occur....and I have now given them a plausable alternative to think about.

I'm trying to get people to THINK....not go through life with blinders and see everything as black or white.....there are more shades of gray out there than most on here are willing to admit.

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I believe that is what I said.....that there is no standard, so saying that the K in SR didn't effect him the same way it does in some other version of the Superman mythos is useless.
Just agree with me and this will go easier for you.

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Yep....it happens in every comic, movie, TV show, and novel with a hero....he pulls himself up at the last moment, and overcoming unbelievable odds he wins the day.

Everyone acts like they never saw this before.
It's a classic template that has been around since the times of the Greek Amphitheater.

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You know Showtime, believe it or not, but I actually believe the sequel will be a lot better and people will flock to see it......well I think the b.o. will be the same as the original but it will definetly be better.
I think it would be pretty easy to make a sequel better, add a supervillian and amp up the action while rounding out existing storylines.

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Non-Comic fans wouldn't think twice about it, they would watch it and either like it or hate it, and it seems to be that the GP didn't flock back to see a sequel. If this was the case, it wasn't because they were confused about the Kryptonite.
Right....the general public didn't get worked up over the relative effectiveness of different forms of Kryptonite.....they were concerned with other issues.

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Right....the general public didn't get worked up over the relative effectiveness of different forms of Kryptonite.....they were concerned with other issues.
Exactly...if the movie didn't resonate with fans it wasn't because the moviegoers didn't undestand why Superman was able to lift NK if he was exposed to Kryptonite. That is left to so called "fanboys" like us. They had bigger fish to fry.

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Just agree with me and this will go easier for you.
If I wanted easy....would I have taken this job?

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If I wanted easy....would I have taken this job?
No. You're either insane or one tough son of a b.

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No. You're either insane or one tough son of a b.
Why can't I be both?

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Why can't I be both?
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Exactly...if the movie didn't resonate with fans it wasn't because the moviegoers didn't undestand why Superman was able to lift NK if he was exposed to Kryptonite. That is left to so called "fanboys" like us. They had bigger fish to fry.
Like hoping that the public would accept Superman as an absentee father and father of an illegitimate child.

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Like hoping that the public would accept Superman as an absentee father and father of an illegitimate child.
like hoping the public would cry to see superman die twice in the movie... so called depth and emotional.

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Nice to see we are back to making the same complaints and repeating the same arguments.

We can't let our opinions just differ can we, oh no that's completely unheard of.

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Like hoping that the public would accept Superman as an absentee father and father of an illegitimate child.
Whatever the reason is, it didn't completely resonate. If that is your reason then fine. Other moviegoers have other reasons.

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People just don't like superman as much as they used to.

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I think that is a small part of it...in a way.

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