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Old 07-11-2007, 11:50 AM   #1251
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I know that everyone has been keen on trying to infer details about the sequel based on Bryan Singer's mention about getting "all Wrath of Khan" on it. Maybe this has been mentioned before so forgive me for not having a lot of time to search the boards exhaustively, nor am I a Trekkie by any means, but wasn't Kirk's son killed by Khan in that movie? Has there ever been any speculation that Singer's reference to the Star Trek sequel could indicate the possibility of Jason getting offed, obviously hurting Superman very deeply?
when he referred to Wrath of Kahn, he only referred it in the way of revitalizing the franchise once again... Superman Returns was a very lot like Star Trek: The Motion Picture... epic yet very boring. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn restarted the movie series with a great storyline and lots of action.

and Kahn does not kill Kirk's son in Star Trek II.

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Old 07-11-2007, 11:53 AM   #1252
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Good to know. Like I said I'm not big into the Star Trek mythos. How, then, does Kirk lose his son? On Wikipedia it was vague.

 
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Kirk Loses his son at the hands of a Klingon oficer in Star Trek III: The Search For Spock

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Yeah; Wrath of Khan just means a tighter film with more insane action.

Trek II was a 180 from The Motion Picture.

Singer is implying to do this with for MoS.

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Yes,....if we take it literally then he will revamp alot of ideas that didn't work like the suit (that'd be great) and the over all tone of the film. Those were the two things that Wrath of Khan did well.

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Wrath of Khan kept all the good ideas (and the ideas that are too expensive to get rid of) and essentially pretended the first one hadn't happened. I'd be totally fine with that approach.

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Old 07-11-2007, 02:37 PM   #1257
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i dont know anything bout Star Trekk but i thought he ment Gangus Kahn or wat ever his name was, i jus thought he was sayin that he'd go crazy on this one and put his all into it and blow the world out of the water.

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i dont know anything bout Star Trekk but i thought he ment Gangus Kahn or wat ever his name was, i jus thought he was sayin that he'd go crazy on this one and put his all into it and blow the world out of the water.
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People seem to be reading into his comment too much. All he meant was that he wanted it to be bigger, better and more impressive.

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Khan was more impressive than the 1st Star Trek movie, go listen to the DVD commentary by director Nicholas Meyer, they had a much tighter budget and deadline than STMOP did. It was mostly U-Boat style warfare, STMOP had a much bigger scale, but was not better than Khan.

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People seem to be reading into his comment too much. All he meant was that he wanted it to be bigger, better and more impressive.
yeah agree.
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People seem to be reading into his comment too much. All he meant was that he wanted it to be bigger, better and more impressive.
Well put.

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Michael bay is an overall average director with a great eye for action, singar actually cares about superman, returns showed that he really cared about the character of superman, and not how many vilians he can beat up.
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Supermans a comic. Written, designed, illustrated for a comic strips. Decades later it still is. The cartoons use the history and characters from the books.
Singer didn't adapt the comic, he adapted the first 2 Donner movies.
I wouldn't call that "caring", I'd call it obsessive narrowminded vision.
The greatest Superhero in the world returns to the silver screen and recieves less than stellar reception. New ridiculous characters are invented out of thin air and the things that make the property interesting are removed.

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I disagree.
Supermans a comic. Written, designed, illustrated for a comic strips. Decades later it still is. The cartoons use the history and characters from the books.
Singer didn't adapt the comic, he adapted the first 2 Donner movies.
I wouldn't call that "caring", I'd call it obsessive narrowminded vision.
The greatest Superhero in the world returns to the silver screen and recieves less than stellar reception. New ridiculous characters are invented out of thin air and the things that make the property interesting are removed.

And no one cared.
Singer cares about Superman beyond the comics.

If some people didn't care, they are the ones not caring. I don't even think they're wrong in their preferences, but it's all their problem/choose.

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Well, there are plenty of movies he could have used as an example. I think he was referring to the seriousness and dark undertones, and more importantly, the strength of the main villain and how much of a danger he/she/it will be.

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Could be, maybe Lex kidnaps Jason to get his DNA to create his own Super villian.
I like that idea, its simple so it wont get convulted. It would allow for Super-battles and because the plot would be basic it would leave room for character development.

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The story in Wrath of Khan was told in total absence of the events of the first Trek movie-its as if it never even happened. Now I'm pretty sure that won't happen here (if this movie actually gets made - WB still hasn't said said yes) but it would be nice if some characters introduced in SR just aren't there in the seuel and if some characters began acting like they should (Lois, Perry - oh and Superman). But ultimately Singer was refering to no need for reintros - just diving right into the action.

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People seem to be reading into his comment too much. All he meant was that he wanted it to be bigger, better and more impressive.
thats basicly wat i said

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I disagree.
Supermans a comic. Written, designed, illustrated for a comic strips. Decades later it still is. The cartoons use the history and characters from the books.
Singer didn't adapt the comic, he adapted the first 2 Donner movies.
I wouldn't call that "caring", I'd call it obsessive narrowminded vision.
The greatest Superhero in the world returns to the silver screen and recieves less than stellar reception. New ridiculous characters are invented out of thin air and the things that make the property interesting are removed.

And no one cared.
again, the problem isn't he adapted the first 2 donner movies. it's singer's lack of vision.

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Star Trek The Motion Picture (the first Star Trek feature film) was made on a budget of $35 million dollars but the by many widely considerd better sequel Wrath Of Khan cost only $11 million dollars.Less than half what the original cost and it's also much more action packed as well.

For WOF they reused sets, costumes and scenes from the original.I can think of one scene from SR that they could use in the possible SR sequel.

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Why do we have a new thread on the Wrath of Khan reference every 3 weeks?

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I wish we had no Star Trek threads in the Superman Forums. I haven't seen any of the Star Treks anyhow.

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