Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death?

SentinelMind · 12-22-2007, 04:13 PM

Cigna, health insurer, held responsible for death of teenager?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2231379,00.html

Matt · 12-22-2007, 04:19 PM

Wow, this is a tough call to make.

VICTORVONDOOMX · 12-22-2007, 04:20 PM

No... the DOCTOR who made the decision to allow her to die because of potential payment issues killed her. ONLY that Doctor killed her. Cigna ARE evil pricks... but those parents need to sue that Doctor.

Although I would answer yes to the poll question because it stipulates legally.

Alex The Great · 12-22-2007, 04:22 PM

tough call.....sue the hospital and insurrance company.

Cigna is evil. not financing a dying teen's surgery JUST because they couldn't pay enough....JAIL the bastards

VICTORVONDOOMX · 12-22-2007, 04:25 PM

Man... I've re-read that article twice.

People need to be publically hung and burned for this.

Addendum · 12-22-2007, 04:54 PM

From the article: Cigna refused to pay on the grounds that her healthcare plan "does not cover experimental, investigational and unproven services".

What a crock of ****. Organ transplants have proven their merit several times over

zanos · 12-22-2007, 05:05 PM

If that family had sold their house and all their belongings they easily could come up with the down payment and paid for the rest of the surgery.

tzarinna · 12-22-2007, 05:18 PM

But could they sell their house in time?

Addendum · 12-22-2007, 05:25 PM

But why does have a family have to sell everything, when they have goddamned inusurance?!

jaguarr · 12-22-2007, 05:33 PM

Our healthcare system is seriously f**ked up.

jag

The Senator · 12-22-2007, 05:35 PM

I think the family would have better luck with a civil suit than pursuing criminal charges. Regardless, I hope they win. This just shows how awful some insurance companies can be.

Matt · 12-22-2007, 05:42 PM

I thought hospitals were legally required to eat the cost for life saving surgeries if the insurance will not cover it?

zanos · 12-22-2007, 06:05 PM

I think that's only if you're dying at that very moment.

Mr. Credible · 12-22-2007, 07:47 PM

^

i think that's right.

still, though, it's no secret that insurance companies are pure, unfiltered evil; and i hope that this incident, terrible as it may be, can bring that fact to the general public's attention, so we can do something to change it.

Matt · 12-22-2007, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zanos

I think that's only if you're dying at that very moment.

Thats really ashame.

POWdER-man · 12-22-2007, 08:52 PM

Wow.....I am glad I don't have to deal with insurance companies....

bullets · 12-22-2007, 10:10 PM

soon enough they will find a way to get to you.

zanos · 12-23-2007, 03:12 PM

CIGNA sure dodged a bullet on this one. Thank god she's dead!

Speedball · 12-23-2007, 03:17 PM

Yes.
Insurance companies love to screw people over, royally.

Superman · 12-23-2007, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt

Wow, this is a tough call to make.

Yeah, It is.

I want to say yes but I think I'll not vote untill I know more about this case.

The Geek Vault · 12-23-2007, 06:35 PM

I'd say yes, it will show the pepole who did this the consequence!

VICTORVONDOOMX · 12-23-2007, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marvelman418

I'd say yes, it will show the pepole who did this the consequence!

That's a good point. A record settlement would help prevent further loss of life.

Those poor parents.

kainedamo · 12-24-2007, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaguarr

Our healthcare system is seriously f**ked up.

jag

Hoorah!!

I'm very happy to see that some Americans can actually acknowledge this.

Hotwire · 12-24-2007, 08:04 AM

What's really sad is this is a situation that has been brought to light before. I'm sure more than a few of you saw the movie John Q in which the insurance company was willing to let the boy die, rather than pay for the life saving procedure. I was sure, when I watched it, that this could happen, but I am absolutly floor that did happen. One thing that has always bothered me about insurance companies is that you can pay and pay and pay, even going so far as to pay them enough money to cover the procedure you need, and they can still deny you. They have way too much power, and we are letting them get away with it.

Addendum · 12-24-2007, 04:32 PM

And that was the entire point of Sicko.

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12-22-2007, 04:13 PM	#1
SentinelMind Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: North FL Posts: 3,283	Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? Cigna, health insurer, held responsible for death of teenager? http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2231379,00.html

12-22-2007, 04:19 PM	#2
Matt The Man SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Camp Manuel Posts: 74,142	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? Wow, this is a tough call to make.

12-22-2007, 04:20 PM	#3
VICTORVONDOOMX Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Latveria Posts: 3,779	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? No... the DOCTOR who made the decision to allow her to die because of potential payment issues killed her. ONLY that Doctor killed her. Cigna ARE evil pricks... but those parents need to sue that Doctor. Although I would answer yes to the poll question because it stipulates legally. __________________ FOOL! IT REQUIRES BOTH KNEES TO KNEEL! ONE KNEE IS MERELY GENUFLECTION.

12-22-2007, 04:22 PM	#4
Alex The Great Banned User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hey look, it's the Sun! Posts: 15,966	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? tough call.....sue the hospital and insurrance company. Cigna is evil. not financing a dying teen's surgery JUST because they couldn't pay enough....JAIL the bastards

12-22-2007, 04:25 PM	#5
VICTORVONDOOMX Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Latveria Posts: 3,779	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? Man... I've re-read that article twice. People need to be publically hung and burned for this. __________________ FOOL! IT REQUIRES BOTH KNEES TO KNEEL! ONE KNEE IS MERELY GENUFLECTION.

12-22-2007, 04:54 PM	#6
Addendum Banned User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Memphis Posts: 22,139	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? From the article: Cigna refused to pay on the grounds that her healthcare plan "does not cover experimental, investigational and unproven services". What a crock of ****. Organ transplants have proven their merit several times over

12-22-2007, 05:05 PM	#7
zanos Banned User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,812	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? If that family had sold their house and all their belongings they easily could come up with the down payment and paid for the rest of the surgery.

12-22-2007, 05:18 PM	#8
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12-22-2007, 05:25 PM	#9
Addendum Banned User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Memphis Posts: 22,139	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? But why does have a family have to sell everything, when they have goddamned inusurance?!

12-22-2007, 05:33 PM	#10
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12-22-2007, 05:35 PM	#11
The Senator Banned User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 12,294	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? I think the family would have better luck with a civil suit than pursuing criminal charges. Regardless, I hope they win. This just shows how awful some insurance companies can be.

12-22-2007, 05:42 PM	#12
Matt The Man SHH! Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Camp Manuel Posts: 74,142	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? I thought hospitals were legally required to eat the cost for life saving surgeries if the insurance will not cover it?

12-22-2007, 06:05 PM	#13
zanos Banned User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,812	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? I think that's only if you're dying at that very moment.

12-22-2007, 07:47 PM	#14
Mr. Credible jukebox hero Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 7,554	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? ^ i think that's right. still, though, it's no secret that insurance companies are pure, unfiltered evil; and i hope that this incident, terrible as it may be, can bring that fact to the general public's attention, so we can do something to change it. __________________ Blessed are the forgetful, for they get the better even of their blunders. www.facebook.com/justinrpacheco www.z ombiehuntersabroad.com

12-22-2007, 08:52 PM	#16
POWdER-man Ancient but wise Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Anywhere and Everywhere Posts: 13,671	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? Wow.....I am glad I don't have to deal with insurance companies....

12-22-2007, 10:10 PM	#17
bullets bang bang Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in the abstract Posts: 25,299	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? soon enough they will find a way to get to you.

12-23-2007, 03:12 PM	#18
zanos Banned User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,812	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? CIGNA sure dodged a bullet on this one. Thank god she's dead!

12-23-2007, 03:17 PM	#19
Speedball Don't. Blink. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Tardis Posts: 18,899	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? Yes. Insurance companies love to screw people over, royally.

12-23-2007, 06:35 PM	#21
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12-24-2007, 08:04 AM	#24
Hotwire Pro-Customizer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 12,031	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? What's really sad is this is a situation that has been brought to light before. I'm sure more than a few of you saw the movie John Q in which the insurance company was willing to let the boy die, rather than pay for the life saving procedure. I was sure, when I watched it, that this could happen, but I am absolutly floor that did happen. One thing that has always bothered me about insurance companies is that you can pay and pay and pay, even going so far as to pay them enough money to cover the procedure you need, and they can still deny you. They have way too much power, and we are letting them get away with it. __________________ FACEBOOK---------------< HOTWIRE CUSTOMS >---------------WEBSITE MY ART THREAD

12-24-2007, 04:32 PM	#25
Addendum Banned User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Memphis Posts: 22,139	Re: Should insurance company held legally responsible for teenager's death? And that was the entire point of Sicko.

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