Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress - Page 5

ChrisBaleBatman · 02-13-2008, 01:07 PM

Holy hell...you guys see the Debbie Clemens thing??

**danoyse** · 02-13-2008, 01:08 PM

No, I don't think they're ripping him because he's a Republican. Curt Schilling is a raging Republican and I don't remember anyone questioning his testimony when he faced Congress a few years ago.

Clemens said early in the hearing that he'd received a call from the highest office in the land (or something like that) telling him to remain strong to show the support he's getting. That said to me that he's got W's support. Funny, since he's made cracking down on steroids in sports such a priority...unless one of his own friends gets accused of it.

ChrisBaleBatman · 02-13-2008, 01:09 PM

Oh, he lied about the number of usage.

He had said he'd used for only 2 days.

Apparently...he'd used for longer. I think all of 2004, I think.

And that his father provided them.

I think. I mean, I read that last night on ESPN News.

ChrisBaleBatman · 02-13-2008, 01:11 PM

I think the Debbie Clemens thing, as told by Roger Clemens, is probably the most truthful thing we've heard from either side.

Dark Donnie · 02-13-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBaleBatman

Holy hell...you guys see the Debbie Clemens thing??

What?

ChrisBaleBatman · 02-13-2008, 01:20 PM

Roger read a statement from Debbie Clemens.

She said that there had been an article about HGH being used as a natural and healthy form of use. And that Brian McNamee, being a doctor, had told Debbie Clemens about that and had offered to inject her with a test shot of HGH, and she did. She supposedly then had health problems for quite a while because of it and hadn't told Roger.

Dark Donnie · 02-13-2008, 01:22 PM

I knew he injected her, I didn't know they(Clemens') acknowledged it

ChrisBaleBatman · 02-13-2008, 01:27 PM

Yeah. She acknowledged it through Roger in a statement she had written.

StorminNorman · 02-13-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FigmanJ

I don't know, Clemens started stuttering like a fool from some of these questions. He's obviously nervous as all hell, if he was innocent he would have no reason to be nervous.

As for McNamee, I find it funny that he is being yelled at as a liar. Why in the hell would he lie to tarnish his own name and career?? Only thing I could think of is he is getting paid off by someone.

For McNamee, however this turns out his career is already over. No one would trust him.

People say that - but thats a ridiculous position to make.

He is testifying before congress underoath where one simple slip could mean prison. Thats huge.

McNamee would lie to try to keep himself out of jail time he was getting, I believe.

Dark Donnie · 02-13-2008, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StorminNorman

People say that - but thats a ridiculous position to make.

He is testifying before congress underoath where one simple slip could mean prison. Thats huge.

McNamee would lie to try to keep himself out of jail time he was getting, I believe.

I agree 100%

I don't really know what exactly the was talking about but one of the Congressman stated that McNamme had lied numerous times today.....about what?

ChrisBaleBatman · 02-13-2008, 01:48 PM

Yeah...it's insane to think he shouldn't be nervous.

I guess being nervous is a sign of guilt?

It's not.

EdRyder · 02-13-2008, 01:50 PM

To say this thing is a circus is an understatement.No one likes to attend a circus that consists of only clowns.
A member of the oversight committee submitted photographs of Clemens as evidence.(I think it was Virginia Foxx)She makes a note to say something along the lines of "It doesnt appear that you've bulked up at all over the years".And Clemens has the audacity to nod his head ,...Way to do your homework Foxx.
Thats a piece of the puzzle that bugs the **** out of me.Rather than rely on his stats isnt there another form of factual data out there?Cant they create an injured list timeline and compare his healing times for muscle pulls ,strains, etc between the times its alleged he was on steroids and wasnt?Kind of simple,..surely not all that difficult.
Then Elijah Cummings claimed that since Pettite acknowledged Mcnamee's allegations to be true,that in turn casts doubt on Clemens.Somehow hes guilty by association? Thats an outrageous statement! You'd think this was Nuremberg

ChrisBaleBatman · 02-13-2008, 01:51 PM

Quote:

I don't really know what exactly the was talking about but one of the Congressman stated that McNamme had lied numerous times today.....about what?

There was so much talk , really.

This format...the lets ask every 5 minutes...doesn't seem to work, because they should have been able to call each guy out on a lie then and there.

It just finished...and honestly there are things on both sides that make this tough to follow and tough to call.

McNamee history of lying hurt him big time.

ChrisBaleBatman · 02-13-2008, 01:52 PM

Quote:

To say this thing is a circus is an understatement.No one likes to attend a circus that consists of only clowns.
A member of the oversight committee submitted photographs of Clemens as evidence.(I think it was Virginia Foxx)She makes a note to say something along the lines of "It doesnt appear that you've bulked up at all over the years".And Clemens has the audacity to nod his head ,...Way to do your homework Foxx.
Thats a piece of the puzzle that bugs the **** out of me.Rather than rely on his stats isnt there another form of factual data out there?Cant they create an injured list timeline and compare his healing times for muscle pulls ,strains, etc between the times its alleged he was on steroids and wasnt?Kind of simple,..surely not all that difficult.
Then Elijah Cummings claimed that since Pettite acknowledged Mcnamee's allegations to be true,that in turn casts doubt on Clemens.Somehow hes guilty by association? Thats an outrageous statement! You'd think this was Nuremberg

Clemens provided stats that supported his own claim, though.

Jerry! · 02-13-2008, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StorminNorman

People say that - but thats a ridiculous position to make.

He is testifying before congress underoath where one simple slip could mean prison. Thats huge.

McNamee would lie to try to keep himself out of jail time he was getting, I believe.

Exactly. One wrong answer, even if by mistake or misunderstanding of some kind and it gets that much worse for Clemens.

ChrisBaleBatman · 02-13-2008, 01:57 PM

Well, there were a few on McNamees' side as well. I think he had certain confusions as well, that he stumbled through.

It's why this case is so bizarre.

Really, the hits both took were directed by the repsentatives that had they're agendas in attacking.

Some went after, clearly, Clemens. Some went after, clearly, McNamee.

I'll say the house leader is one ugly bastard. He should wear a mask when on TV.

The Kid · 02-13-2008, 02:06 PM

Leave Clemens Alone or he'll throw splintered bats at you?

Did he win? I didn't understand the outcome of this very serious hearing...

Spidey-Bat · 02-13-2008, 02:11 PM

This is just Round 1.

Dark Donnie · 02-13-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wesyeed

Leave Clemens Alone or he'll throw splintered bats at you?

Did he win? I didn't understand the outcome of this very serious hearing...

There is no outcome really, nothing will probably happen from all this.

ChrisBaleBatman · 02-13-2008, 02:25 PM

Oh, I think something will come from this.

6 FBI Agents were present at the hearing, and supposedly they've already began an investigation into who prejured themselves.

I mean, as of now...that is the ONLY thing is true...is that someone is lying.

Dark Donnie · 02-13-2008, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisBaleBatman

Oh, I think something will come from this.

6 FBI Agents were present at the hearing, and supposedly they've already began an investigation into who prejured themselves.

I mean, as of now...that is the ONLY thing is true...is that someone is lying.

There may be more trials, but it's extremely difficult to get a guilty plea off a perjury charge.

ChrisBaleBatman · 02-13-2008, 02:28 PM

Man, Clemens lawyers are doing a great job.

And I'm doubting the validity of the Commitee as well, because they seemed to have lied about the Nanny apparently.

ChrisBaleBatman · 02-13-2008, 02:29 PM

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There may be more trials, but it's extremely difficult to get a guilty plea off a perjury charge.

True.

But people will surely be hunting.

Excel · 02-13-2008, 02:49 PM

Clemens does not seem very intelligent. I saw a bit and a congresswoman helf up four photos of from from 96, 99, 2002 and 2006 and said he looked roughly the same size and asked him to discuss his conditioning; he responded by talking about career accomplishments.

cyborg ninja 14 · 02-13-2008, 03:01 PM

This hearing was ridiculous. Clemens said werid things, members of congress asked werid questions. McNamee also had his questionable moments.

BTW: Clemens is "easy to find."

02-13-2008, 01:07 PM	#101
ChrisBaleBatman Legendary Hero Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shadow Moses Posts: 17,397	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress Holy hell...you guys see the Debbie Clemens thing??

02-13-2008, 01:08 PM	#102
danoyse Snikt. Stab. Repeat. SHH! Administrator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: A world I long to see. Posts: 17,610	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress No, I don't think they're ripping him because he's a Republican. Curt Schilling is a raging Republican and I don't remember anyone questioning his testimony when he faced Congress a few years ago. Clemens said early in the hearing that he'd received a call from the highest office in the land (or something like that) telling him to remain strong to show the support he's getting. That said to me that he's got W's support. Funny, since he's made cracking down on steroids in sports such a priority...unless one of his own friends gets accused of it. __________________ *"And remember, the truth that once was spoken, to love another person is to see the face of God."*

02-13-2008, 01:09 PM	#103
ChrisBaleBatman Legendary Hero Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shadow Moses Posts: 17,397	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress Oh, he lied about the number of usage. He had said he'd used for only 2 days. Apparently...he'd used for longer. I think all of 2004, I think. And that his father provided them. I think. I mean, I read that last night on ESPN News.

02-13-2008, 01:11 PM	#104
ChrisBaleBatman Legendary Hero Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shadow Moses Posts: 17,397	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress I think the Debbie Clemens thing, as told by Roger Clemens, is probably the most truthful thing we've heard from either side.

02-13-2008, 01:20 PM	#106
ChrisBaleBatman Legendary Hero Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shadow Moses Posts: 17,397	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress Roger read a statement from Debbie Clemens. She said that there had been an article about HGH being used as a natural and healthy form of use. And that Brian McNamee, being a doctor, had told Debbie Clemens about that and had offered to inject her with a test shot of HGH, and she did. She supposedly then had health problems for quite a while because of it and hadn't told Roger.

02-13-2008, 01:22 PM	#107
Dark Donnie Kenny Powers is Back! Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 18,147	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress I knew he injected her, I didn't know they(Clemens') acknowledged it __________________ Avvy by Hunter Rider

02-13-2008, 01:27 PM	#108
ChrisBaleBatman Legendary Hero Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shadow Moses Posts: 17,397	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress Yeah. She acknowledged it through Roger in a statement she had written.

02-13-2008, 01:48 PM	#111
ChrisBaleBatman Legendary Hero Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shadow Moses Posts: 17,397	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress Yeah...it's insane to think he shouldn't be nervous. I guess being nervous is a sign of guilt? It's not.

02-13-2008, 01:50 PM	#112
EdRyder Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,288	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress To say this thing is a circus is an understatement.No one likes to attend a circus that consists of only clowns. A member of the oversight committee submitted photographs of Clemens as evidence.(I think it was Virginia Foxx)She makes a note to say something along the lines of "It doesnt appear that you've bulked up at all over the years".And Clemens has the audacity to nod his head ,...Way to do your homework Foxx. Thats a piece of the puzzle that bugs the **** out of me.Rather than rely on his stats isnt there another form of factual data out there?Cant they create an injured list timeline and compare his healing times for muscle pulls ,strains, etc between the times its alleged he was on steroids and wasnt?Kind of simple,..surely not all that difficult. Then Elijah Cummings claimed that since Pettite acknowledged Mcnamee's allegations to be true,that in turn casts doubt on Clemens.Somehow hes guilty by association? Thats an outrageous statement! You'd think this was Nuremberg

02-13-2008, 01:57 PM	#116
ChrisBaleBatman Legendary Hero Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shadow Moses Posts: 17,397	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress Well, there were a few on McNamees' side as well. I think he had certain confusions as well, that he stumbled through. It's why this case is so bizarre. Really, the hits both took were directed by the repsentatives that had they're agendas in attacking. Some went after, clearly, Clemens. Some went after, clearly, McNamee. I'll say the house leader is one ugly bastard. He should wear a mask when on TV.

02-13-2008, 02:06 PM	#117
The Kid AMERICA FTW Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bronx Posts: 12,766	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress Leave Clemens Alone or he'll throw splintered bats at you? Did he win? I didn't understand the outcome of this very serious hearing... __________________ Superman Returns is better than the Dark Knight

02-13-2008, 02:25 PM	#120
ChrisBaleBatman Legendary Hero Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shadow Moses Posts: 17,397	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress Oh, I think something will come from this. 6 FBI Agents were present at the hearing, and supposedly they've already began an investigation into who prejured themselves. I mean, as of now...that is the ONLY thing is true...is that someone is lying.

02-13-2008, 02:28 PM	#122
ChrisBaleBatman Legendary Hero Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shadow Moses Posts: 17,397	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress Man, Clemens lawyers are doing a great job. And I'm doubting the validity of the Commitee as well, because they seemed to have lied about the Nanny apparently.

02-13-2008, 02:49 PM	#124
Excel O-bama-ama-ama-ay-ay Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Places Posts: 19,471	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress Clemens does not seem very intelligent. I saw a bit and a congresswoman helf up four photos of from from 96, 99, 2002 and 2006 and said he looked roughly the same size and asked him to discuss his conditioning; he responded by talking about career accomplishments. __________________ If You Wanna Make The World A Better Place, Take A Look At Yourself, And Then Make A Change R.I.P. Heath

02-13-2008, 03:01 PM	#125
cyborg ninja 14 God, I love your accent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 10,407	Re: Clemens, Pettitte, McNamee asked to testify to Congress This hearing was ridiculous. Clemens said werid things, members of congress asked werid questions. McNamee also had his questionable moments. BTW: Clemens is "easy to find."

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