How will the Hulk beat Abomination?

[EmeraldBeast]

There has been a lot of speculation and/or rumors about the epic battle between the Hulk and Abomination and how it will end. Will he out think him, get angry, stronger or be helped by someone. How do you think it will end?

[The Hulk]

if the hulk does not win by using pure rage fuled strenghth, something is very very wrong.

[webhead731]

He is losing (but not like the Disney movie good guy almost losing then winning, that's been done alot) and it's a kickass battle, then Hulk really gets pissed and beats the SH-- out of Abomy!

[SpaghettiHULK]

with a little help by Bruce Banner, like in the comics.

[November Rain]

I'd prefer if he didn't all out win and abomination escapes....

otherwise there's nothing left for the sequel.

It's not like the hulk has a plethra of villains to fight, he's always been at his best when fighting other heroes...

abomination is too important to the franchise to simply defeat straight away. If he does so, it devalues his subsequent appearances in the future, just like how luke didn't defeat darth vader straight away in star wars etc or how dooku wasn't beaten in clone wars.

[Ahura Mazda]

I would prefer he wins outright but you see the abomination's body being taken away by the future leader....

I never liked the abom as an opponent.

[ArtTeacher]

As I said in a previous thread, at the end of the movie, America should be awestruck at the Hulk's strength; they should feel that there is truly nothing the Hulk can't do because of his in-credible power....
...not thinking, "Well, his strength meant jack-crap at the end of the movie".

Don't get me wrong, I think it can be quite fascinating to take a character with unlimited strength and put him in a situation where he is powerless to help (a la the issue where his friend Jim Wilson died of AIDS)...but not for the ending of HIS movie, where you're trying to establish the hero in a strong light, hopefully setting him up for a future franchise.

[Sava]

Originally Posted by November Rain

I'd prefer if he didn't all out win and abomination escapes....

otherwise there's nothing left for the sequel.

It's not like the hulk has a plethra of villains to fight, he's always been at his best when fighting other heroes...

abomination is too important to the franchise to simply defeat straight away. If he does so, it devalues his subsequent appearances in the future, just like how luke didn't defeat darth vader straight away in star wars etc or how dooku wasn't beaten in clone wars.

agree with this, Abomi should realize he's getting his ass handed to him and escapes, setting up Leader and Abomi vs Hulk for the next movie.

[November Rain]

Originally Posted by ArtTeacher

As I said in a previous thread, at the end of the movie, America should be awestruck at the Hulk's strength; they should feel that there is truly nothing the Hulk can't do because of his in-credible power....
...not thinking, "Well, his strength meant jack-crap at the end of the movie".

Don't get me wrong, I think it can be quite fascinating to take a character with unlimited strength and put him in a situation where he is powerless to help (a la the issue where his friend Jim Wilson died of AIDS)...but not for the ending of HIS movie, where you're trying to establish the hero in a strong light, hopefully setting him up for a future franchise.

please pay attention, hulk's not a hero...his acts shouldn't be heroic, they should be selfish in the sense of wanting to be left alone or taking out people that really piss him off at a given time.

Banner may have heroic tendencies but no more than any other man would in his predicament.

America shouldn't be in awe of anything, they should highly fear the hulk even after the good he does and he should definitely get blamed for all the violence that the abomination does.

[ArtTeacher]

Originally Posted by November Rain

please pay attention, hulk's not a hero...his acts shouldn't be heroic, they should be selfish in the sense of wanting to be left alone or taking out people that really piss him off at a given time.
Banner may have heroic tendencies but no more than any other man would in his predicament.
America shouldn't be in awe of anything, they should highly fear the hulk even after the good he does and he should definitely get blamed for all the violence that the abomination does.

Please pay attention:

In the 60's, when Marvel was getting started, only heroes had their own titles. Doc Oc didn't have his own book. "The Dastardly Doom" was never a comic book. When Stan Lee was looking for a new superHERO, he came up with the Hulk.

Banner risked his life (several times) to save others. These are the actions "of any other man"? These are not the actions of your typical person (have you been on the roads, lately? I can't even get someone to let me into their lane, much less have them sacrifice their life for me).

America shouldn't be in awe of the Hulk, they should fear him?
Please pay attention:
awe: 1.
an overwhelming feeling of reverence, admiration, FEAR, etc., produced by that which is grand, sublime, extremely powerful, or the like: in awe of God; in awe of great political figures.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/awe

But, hey, thanks for playing. Don Pardo, please tell contestant #5150 about our great parting gifts.

[Sarg92]

Personally I think that Hulk should just get angrier and kill Abomination however since we have the build up of the Leader in this movie then in the sequel we could have Leader recreating Abomination after getting the dead body and adding robotic parts to it where Abomination has been wounded a lot and we could see some of Leader's robot army attack Hulk in a sequel.

[Spidey-Quad]

Uh, not much of a choice with these options

[Figs]

Abom is going to piss of Hulk bigtime and make him stronger...end of story.

[Juha]

I'm guessing that Hulk goes up against Abomination twice during the movie. In their first fight Abomination pretty much owns Hulk so when the final battle begins, Hulk is initially an underdog. Hulk is taking some serious punishment but then he realizes that Betty's life is in danger. So huge adrenaline rush kicks in and Hulk opens a can of whoop-ass.

Not very original but I think that's how the scenario plays out. Love triggers rage and rage gives him strength.

There's of course also the possibility that Hulk out-smarts Abomination. Bruce comes up with some kind of "trap" that weakens Abomination. After that Hulk finishes the job. This scenario could be used in order to underline the fact that you need intelligence as well as muscle power. Both Bruce and Hulk are needed in order to beat Abomination.

[Bannerless Hulk]

Brains over brawn.

My guess is Hulk uses a cunning maneuver, much like Spiderman against the Green Goblin, to outwit Abomination. This demonstrates that the Hulk spans all the genres of comic book heroes to the delight of fans everywhere.

No, seriously, I think the Hulk loses to Abomination. The scene is marked by a cameo by Stan Lee, who brings Hulk an infant's bottle of milk. The movie ends with this scene, with the camera slowly panning out toward the sky (and credits scrolling), so as to give us a bird's eye view of just how small the Hulk really is. And the soundbed is Barry Manilow. Bloodshed everywhere... we're left with a strange feeling of peace and despair.

[ArtTeacher]

Add a closeup of lichen and a blown up jellyfish explosion, and you've got yourself one masterpiece of a comic book movie!

[terry78]

I think half of the population should view him as a threat, and some of them notice that he was being harrassed and wasn't instigating, and secretly root for him. That's how it's been in the comics usually.

[Kellys Heroes]

Hulk win by outside sourse.... ala O Prime defeating Megatron w/ some help of the F-22's

[Khemik@L]

I will like Hulk to get pissed then beat Abom but not fully destroy him. Since he is the only opponent that can actually threaten the Hulk I think he should be kept alive for futre battles. Sortah like the relationship between Superman and Lex Luther.

[wobbly]

Originally Posted by Khemik@L

I will like Hulk to get pissed then beat Abom but not fully destroy him. Since he is the only opponent that can actually threaten the Hulk I think he should be kept alive for futre battles. Sortah like the relationship between Superman and Lex Luther.

Luthor's relationship with Superman is much more akin to the Leader and the Hulk: Physically, neither Lex nor the Leader are any threat at all to their respective nemesis', it's their brains gives that give their opponents trouble.

Now Doomsday (or Superboy Prime, Darkseid etc) would be better equivalents as they can actually hurt Superman 'man to man'.

[terry78]

The Leader is the one that should be left standing. His role is to create monsters/machines to destroy/harness Hulk's power, which makes him more of an archnemesis.

[Khemik@L]

Originally Posted by wobbly

Luthor's relationship with Superman is much more akin to the Leader and the Hulk: Physically, neither Lex nor the Leader are any threat at all to their respective nemesis', it's their brains gives that give their opponents trouble.

Now Doomsday (or Superboy Prime, Darkseid etc) would be better equivalents as they can actually hurt Superman 'man to man'.

OK Point taken

[November Rain]

Originally Posted by ArtTeacher

Please pay attention:

In the 60's, when Marvel was getting started, only heroes had their own titles. Doc Oc didn't have his own book. "The Dastardly Doom" was never a comic book. When Stan Lee was looking for a new superHERO, he came up with the Hulk.

Banner risked his life (several times) to save others. These are the actions "of any other man"? These are not the actions of your typical person (have you been on the roads, lately? I can't even get someone to let me into their lane, much less have them sacrifice their life for me).

America shouldn't be in awe of the Hulk, they should fear him?
Please pay attention:
awe: 1.
an overwhelming feeling of reverence, admiration, FEAR, etc., produced by that which is grand, sublime, extremely powerful, or the like: in awe of God; in awe of great political figures.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/awe

But, hey, thanks for playing. Don Pardo, please tell contestant #5150 about our great parting gifts.

Wow, using outdated creational references to describe a character. I suppose if a film was done about my life it should show me acting as a crying baby in adult hood since that was how i was created.

Hulk's evolved over the years, he and banner are definitely no hero. Trying to pinpoint the hulk into a hero's quarter is like trying to say a Tornado is a villain or hero. It is just what it is.

Banner is a better man than most, but he's by no means in superhero territory, or hero. The difference is trouble finds him, not the other way round, he reacts to situations as appose to goes out looking for them (spidey, batman, anyone who dons a costume and patrols).

ANy attempt to market him as a hero is going to be a disaster.

Oh and go on and tell me how 'fear' was the definition you were going for in your sentence before wapping out a dictionary and going down the list of adjectives till you finds one that fits.

When crap fits the fan, i want people running for their lives, hiding ducking, screaming 'REACTING', not standing there with there mouths open drooling and contemplating power level extents, that's what the scientists (and the viewing public) do, JOe-Public should just be in pandamonium.

so meh

I wait patiently in AWE of your reply....you decide what definition I'm using that time...

[Cracker Jack]

Originally Posted by ArtTeacher

Add a closeup of lichen and a blown up jellyfish explosion, and you've got yourself one masterpiece of a comic book movie!

Throw in a phallic symbol and I'd say, then you've got a "Masterpiece"

[ArtTeacher]

Originally Posted by November Rain

Wow, using outdated creational references to describe a character. I suppose if a film was done about my life it should show me acting as a crying baby in adult hood since that was how i was created.

Yeah, I guess if I was describing an apple, I shouldn’t call it a fruit, since that’s an “outdated creational reference to describe” it. Calling the Empire State Building a building is actually a disservice; it was only a building way back in the old days…you know…when it was made. And is the Earth REALLY round? I mean, after all, that information is WAY old! The Hulk is no more or less of a hero now than he was in 1962. Actually, I take that back; continuity has shown him to be more heroic than he was back then. Thanks for pointing that out.

I now realize that Hollywood is full of people that share your mindset.
“Let’s change the origin for this comic book movie because…well…because it was written a long time ago.”
“…uh…so was the Constitution.”
“Shut up! You’re fired!”

As far as hero/not hero goes, I think it can be summed up as this: The Hulk is not your typical superhero. (Again, this is congruent with how he was intended at his inception…*gasp*…well, then it HAS to be wrong, since everything that’s more than five days old is evil, inaccurate, and should be discarded).

Originally Posted by November Rain

Oh and go on and tell me how 'fear' was the definition you were going for in your sentence before wapping out a dictionary and going down the list of adjectives till you finds one that fits.

First of all, there was no searching; it was the FIRST definition…you know…the one that’s considered most common.
And secondly, how does one “wap” a dictionary?

Originally Posted by November Rain

When crap fits the fan, i want people running for their lives, hiding ducking, screaming 'REACTING', not standing there with there mouths open drooling and contemplating power level extents, that's what the scientists (and the viewing public) do, JOe-Public should just be in pandamonium.

I never said the contrary.
By “America”, I meant…the United States of America; the country in which I reside…the citizens of which that will be responsible for The Incredible Hulk’s domestic box office…not the actors in the movie that are dodging busses and cars.

Originally Posted by November Rain

I wait patiently in AWE of your reply....you decide what definition I'm using that time...

I’m guessing most likely this one:
An overwhelming feeling of wonder, admiration, and profound respect for someone or something inspired by authority, genius, great beauty, sublimity, or might.

“’Cause nothin' lasts forever
Even cold November Rain”