DTL Season 5-Week 11 (Set 1)

[wiegeabo]

X
B'wana Bet?

I actually think Thanos has the edge over Thor. But Huber should be able to take care of Mimic. And as long as Skrull can avoid MJ (using forcefields), he should be able to finish the lowers by himself, not to mention Coronary and Bats.

Good matchup for Gog and Ari. But I think Lightray would be much faster than Aztek. At least fast enough to keep him from helping against Reed. And I really liked Gog's idea of an EMP and Ares having Radion. Not sure about Anarky making Radion. Overall, I just favor Gog's arguments a little more.

[Aristotle]

Is there any precedent at all for Lightray generating an EMP, or anything similar to one? And why is it at all plausible for Ares to have Radion? It feels like people are taking Gog's arguments completely on faith, but then riddling mine with theoretical questions at the slightest whim.

[DTL Commish]

Voting is now over.
Final Results:

X 3
In Jesus' Name 3

The Authorititans 2
B'wana Bet? 4

[XFanTim]

I don't have a clue whether Ares has access to Radion. I also don't know if Lightray has generated an EMP.

But Lightray has some other pretty massive attacks, such as generating a sun or superheating himself to the temperature of a few suns. He's shown that he can use his powers in some unusual ways, like blanketing a planet with some sort of detection grid of photons. He can also absorb and redirect energy blasts.

As far as speed we know he can move at lightspeed. As far as combat reflexes, here's him blitzing Mongol.

(All scans from the Lightray Respect thread.)

Does any of this prove he can make an EMP? Well, no. But you have Aztek doing so well against Lightray that he can take time out to help against Reed. Lightray is faster, but you say Aztek has a "vastly superior offensive arsenal." Given some of Lightray's feats, I'm not really convinced. Lightray seems like a serious threat even to many ubers.

[XFanTim]

If it's any consolation, if we exclude X's ownerless team from the playoffs then it will probably be you going up against Gog in the first round (with Ahura/Khell getting a first round bye). So you'll have the opportunity to make your case all over again -- and with hopefully more voters. There's no excuse for anyone not to vote in the playoffs, with only two matches per week.

EDIT: Actually, X's team will probably fall out of their playoff spot even without being excluded, because they're definitely going to get losses against Ahura/Khell and then me in the last two weeks.

[Aristotle]

I still feel like Gog got away with basically making **** up. Generating a sun is not the same as an EMP. The two are fundamentally different things. Lightray has a very specific power, and it is not electropathy. And Ares having Radion? I mean, that's basically the reason Ares wins against Infinity-Man in his writeup...and he never provided a single reason to believe that.

Gog got away with a really shoddy writeup this match.

[XFanTim]

Maybe so. In some ways, Gog may have benefited from posting late in that there wasn't much time for you to dispute the validity of his strategies.

I don't know Ares that well. I'll admit I just assumed Gog knew what he was talking about when he said Ares's realm is full of radion. (I voted before you posted your comments disputing that point.)

In any case, like I said you'll probably have a chance for revenge in round 1 of the playoffs.

[Aristotle]

What's the use? I'll use Superman-Prime, and Ares will spontaneously generate kryptonite. I'll use Ion, and Lightray will turn yellow.

[Dark Gog]

Originally Posted by XFanTim

Gog, I hope you live in England or somewhere. Because if you have to go to school at 4 AM, that's just brutal.

Gog hails from Asia, like the worst kinds of Flu.


And all I had originally intended by the Hades comment is that, given that he wouldn't even have to worry about Lightray if he took the fight there, Ares would be free to flood it with as much Radion as my team could muster in advance. I consider it fairly obvious how my team might come by it (hell, Aristotle himself thought he could produce it on the field and with almost no resources), but if it isn't, I'll leave it to our next match.

Lightray's fast enough to avoid energy attacks by converting them to harmless forms before they strike him. Aztek flies so fast he doesn't even need a car. Oh, and he took Kyle's Ring off his finger without his notice. Clearly, I was out-of-step to suggest Lightray could avoid him if he wanted to, particularly when he doesn't even have to come all that near him to attack.

As for the rest of Aristotle's comments, well he can keep telling us what my characters can and cannot do, but his hit/miss ratio is just shocking at this point:

• Dominic can merge with bacteria. Animal Man has done so using his predecessor's powers, and the B'wana Beast is a hereditary role that grants the exact same abilities to each new
  
• I don't know what a standard energy converter is, few comic characters that I'm familiar with have that exact power, which I take from Lightray's own words describing it. Certainly, he has a particular affinity to light, but he HAS handled high amounts of electricity before, and that (conversion, not electropathy) IS his power, or a major part of it, and has been for as far back as Simonson's Orion series at the least. The only thing speculative at-all about my write-up was his ability to generate an EMP proper. Since at this point in the season I'd already adressed the possibility of Reed designing a device to specifcally convert Lightray's power into one, I didn't pay it much mind at the time. (Of-course, had it come down to it, I'd have been more than happy with accomplishing the same by simply blasing Aztek with a strong enough charge.)

There was a lot more I was planning to say, but I think all I'll mention is that I did not, in point of fact, draft Ares from your local library, and that as convient as it may have been, Zemo doesn't HAVE reality warping powers. He derives his abilities from the manipulation of gravity, which is one buzz-word which can generally hold-up to 'quantum', and if anything, has crossed-over to that field himself by manipulating photons and the like.

..So I regard the accusations posted here with more than a pinch of salt.