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Old 03-21-2012, 09:32 AM   #276
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probably because they are cool. really cool.
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At least what I said was that it tried to be "cool." And B&R/Schumacher things like cartoon sounds were "cool."
Cool cool? or Arnie's cool?

I've always found it funny to watch the movie with an another person. Laughing at their faces when they see it unfold

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I just cant get behind a campy Batman. I've tried watching the Batman movie from 1966 and appreciate it for what it really is but I cant. A quipping Batman just doesnt work for me.
Batman 1960s is comedy genius in the vein of Monty Python. Batman certainly pioneered the bizarre, surreal and silly comedy before MP did.

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Batman 1960s is comedy genius in the vein of Monty Python. Batman certainly pioneered the bizarre, surreal and silly comedy before MP did.
If you like your Batman like that, good for you. It's not for me.

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Old 03-22-2012, 07:05 AM   #280
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Something that I've always wondered. When Batman & Robin was released in theaters, I was only nine years old. Of course, being that young, I can only remember being absolutely stoked for the film and enjoyed collecting my cups from Taco Bell. For older fans, though, before it's release, was there any fear or any indication among the fans that this film was going to end up being as bad as it was? I mean, I know Batman forever wasn't exactly well-received on a critical or fan level (at least I don't think it was), but was there any excitement at all among fans for Batman & Robin? Or did fans see the trailer and say "Yeah, this movie is going to suck"? Was it like knowing that something really bad was coming?

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Something that I've always wondered. When Batman & Robin was released in theaters, I was only nine years old. Of course, being that young, I can only remember being absolutely stoked for the film and enjoyed collecting my cups from Taco Bell. For older fans, though, before it's release, was there any fear or any indication among the fans that this film was going to end up being as bad as it was? I mean, I know Batman forever wasn't exactly well-received on a critical or fan level (at least I don't think it was), but was there any excitement at all among fans for Batman & Robin? Or did fans see the trailer and say "Yeah, this movie is going to suck"? Was it like knowing that something really bad was coming?
As far as I know, Batman Forever was well-received at the BO. And I knew it wasn't great but it was decent pop-corn. In fact I thought Schumacher could come with a movie that was as good or even better than BF. But no.

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Actually, Batman Forever was a pretty liked movie until Batman and Robin was released. BF has some good moments, but some of the deleted scenes are really great. Bruce watching the news and asking himself if Batman's actions are welcomed was great. Same goes for the scene where he forgets about his life as Batman. Not only were those scenes great, but Kilmer did an incredible job. Forever was kind of campy, but also had a dark tone which was great.

Batman and Robin is really a modern version of the Adam West show, and it's a damn funny movie. Batman is a people in it.

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Well I should know all about the love for Batman Forever. I got used as an excuse to go see it 10 times when I was 3 by Cheryl Cole lol

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I do remember an article in Wizard magazine from early 1997 that asked "Are we ready for Batman lite?" So yeah, there were concerns early on.

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Well I should know all about the love for Batman Forever. I got used as an excuse to go see it 10 times when I was 3 by Cheryl Cole lol
Cheryl likes Batman? Never would have thought it.

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Cheryl likes Batman? Never would have thought it.
She still does, but she was more mad for it than me when I was young, and that's saying something

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One thing I don't mind is the design the Schumacher flicks had for Arkham Asylum, with the expressionism of lightning and rain.

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Without a doubt, Arkham was the best thing Schumacher visualized.

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Without a doubt, Arkham was the best thing Schumacher visualized.
Yeah. I also quite like the establishing exterior shot of the South American jungle in B&R .

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It really wants to have its cake and eat it too so to speak. At one end, it plays off as pretty much a goofier/dumbed down version of Batman Forever, yet at the same time, wants to have "serious" scenes like the stuff involving Alfred on is deathbed. For all its flaws, Batman Forever did a much better job in balancing out the seriousness w/ the goofiness/over-the-top action and effects.

Also, Mr. Freeze's backstory from Batman: The Animated Series (which pretty much made Mr. Freeze an A-list member of Batman's rogues gallery) involving Nora yet at the same time, has him cracking wise and making all of this puns about his gimmick.

Not only that, it wants to be a two hour toy commercial for kids (since the tone in the previous movie was much lighter than in Batman Returns) while at the same time having Poison Ivy spout all of these double entendres.

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Could someone please direct me to where the Bat-Nipple jokes are at? Those never get old...

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Old 04-05-2012, 06:32 AM   #292
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Something that I've always wondered. When Batman & Robin was released in theaters, I was only nine years old. Of course, being that young, I can only remember being absolutely stoked for the film and enjoyed collecting my cups from Taco Bell. For older fans, though, before it's release, was there any fear or any indication among the fans that this film was going to end up being as bad as it was? I mean, I know Batman forever wasn't exactly well-received on a critical or fan level (at least I don't think it was), but was there any excitement at all among fans for Batman & Robin? Or did fans see the trailer and say "Yeah, this movie is going to suck"? Was it like knowing that something really bad was coming?
Aye, there was a huge backlash once the first test screenings were held, months before it's official release to audiences. Harry Knowles' aicn review of one of the test screenings put aicn on the worldwide map, got him on the news being interviewed, and was what the world media quoted when writing about the upcoming movie.

Here in the UK, the major left wing broadsheet newspaper is called the Guardian, and it featured an article on B&R months before it's release, and it's focus was on the aicn review Harry wrote.
It put the feature on the front cover of it's weekend magazine called the 'Guide', with an illustration of a wee boy punching Batman in the stomach, as Harry had written about some wee boy asking to be taken out of the theatre during the film, with Harry commenting on how back when he was this kid's age, no force on Earth could have moved him from the cinema when watching the first two Superman movies.

The Guardian article also talked about how Schumacher had said he was going to edit the movie after those screenings, and take out some of the more comedic elements of Clooney's Batman performance(in one of the trailers Clooney hits out with a 'quip' at Freeze, when he first confronts him, 'Didn't your mother ever tell you it wasn't safe to play with guns?", which was removed from the film, don't know if there were any other 'quips' removed, although I have to admit liking his 'quip' to Poison Ivy, 'why are all the beautiful ones homicidal maniacs, is it me?') , and it also said that Schumacher was going to do some re-shoots, so I vainly hoped that Schumacher would fix some of the problems the movie had for audiences, but really, I knew it would probably be crap, although I thought we'd only have to wait another three years for another one, and they'd make sure that one was better.
Of course, I didn't know then just how bad B&R would be, and that we'd have to wait until 2005, but it was worth the wait, to get a Batman film that was finally doing justice to the character.


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Old 04-05-2012, 07:31 AM   #293
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The day they released B&R where I live I went out to see it first thing in the morning, skipped class, and in a magazine stand I found a B&R magazine and the B&R comic adaptation, which I read (sort of) while going to see it. But nothing prepared me for the final product.

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Something that I've always wondered. When Batman & Robin was released in theaters, I was only nine years old. Of course, being that young, I can only remember being absolutely stoked for the film and enjoyed collecting my cups from Taco Bell. For older fans, though, before it's release, was there any fear or any indication among the fans that this film was going to end up being as bad as it was? I mean, I know Batman forever wasn't exactly well-received on a critical or fan level (at least I don't think it was), but was there any excitement at all among fans for Batman & Robin? Or did fans see the trailer and say "Yeah, this movie is going to suck"? Was it like knowing that something really bad was coming?
being a huge Bat-Fan,and having seen the other 3 multiple times in the theaters (and buying the VHS tapes as soon as they were released) , i can say,yes,there was some fear...as quip-and-pun filled as BF could be,and some of the campy elements too, it at least kept a dark center,and dealt with some mature themes and topics....i hoped for something similar from B & R ,but then the test screening reviews came out,and people started talking about the super-camp value of it,and Batman and Robin doing double-moves like the 60's TV show,and whooshing and pratfall sound effects being added,and....and my heart began to sink....

i went into that theater in the Summer of 1997 open to it,hoping for an enjoyable experience with some dark elements,ala BF....what i got was crap....my problem ISN'T what B & R is/was...my problem is what it was being the 4th film in the series,and a suppossed continuation of the previous 3 films....

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"I said make sure they give you a trapdoor in your Batsuit. They get you in this contraption, and in order to go to the bathroom you have to completely disrobe, and it takes an hour to get it back on."

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Batman and Robin changed my life forever.

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"Hi Freeze. I'm Batman".

Wrong on so many Bat levels.

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"I said make sure they give you a trapdoor in your Batsuit. They get you in this contraption, and in order to go to the bathroom you have to completely disrobe, and it takes an hour to get it back on."

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Oh thank you for the Bat-nipples. Bet those things look just stunning in 1080 HD. :P
Oh they do, That blu ray is amazing on a big screen tv. Plus I love all the blu ray covers for the Anthology set.








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Plus I love all the blu ray covers for the Anthology set.
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