Marvel's next animated film, "Next Avengers" Uhh... eww?

[odiin]

Originally Posted by CaptainCanada

That comic would have a bunch of adaptation problems; it's positively awash in continuity minutiae that doesn't exist in any film, and it has prominent gay characters.

So? It's not that hard to cut it away from all the continuity with other books like DC did with Doomsday, and those gay characters? If it would be a children's movie, there's no need to point out anyone's sexuality either way.

[Gold Samurai]

The teen wave continues. Sorry if the thread is a repeat



Featuring Thor's daughter and Storm + Black Panther's son

[deathshead2]

Thats the next dtv movie.
Not a show.

[Gold Samurai]

thank you for the correction

[SLYspyder]

Sigh, I won't be buying that. You have DC bringing out masterpieces like "JL: The New Frontier", then Marvel bringing out this piece of crap with heroes no one knows or gives a crap about.

[deathshead2]

Originally Posted by SLYspyder

Sigh, I won't be buying that. You have DC bringing out masterpieces like "JL: The New Frontier", then Marvel bringing out this piece of crap with heroes no one knows or gives a crap about.

I wouldn't call that a masterpiece. Its alright but its a hard watch the second time, and still leagues behind DC's and Timms early work. But it is better than what marvel has produced through Lionsgate thats for sure.

[Havok83]

I thought that was Hawkeye, Valkyrie and Cap A.

[Webhead2006]

no its caps and black widow's son, thor's daugther, black panther/storm's son, wasp/gaint man's son, and hawkeye &______ son.

[Odin's Lapdog]

that's just incredibly stupid.

of all the rich history in comics and this was the best idea they could come up with, disgusting...

[TheCorpulent1]

I wonder who Thor's daughter's mother is. Other than that, I have no interest in this. Also, her sword looks stupid because it's anime-sized.

[Cmill216]

What....the.....hell?

[JustABill]

Eww. T'Challa got Ororo pregnant. Gross. :

[EternalMaster]

It's weird to make "Next Avengers". If you want a you teen team, they have Runaways and Young Avengers. Two successful quality comics. Why come up with some lame-o idea like this? Why waste the effort to make something one-fourth as good?

[Joker]

They wanted it to tie in with there other Avengers movies...so they made there own idea. It doesnt look great, but meh, I'll give it a chance.

[Prison Mike]

I also heard Marvel is coming out with an animated teen iron man show. that's stupid. I hate teenagers.

[TheCorpulent1]

Everyone with any sense hates teenagers. Hell, I hated teenagers when I was a teenager.

[cronosred]

This looks bad. I'm curious why do they make so many avenger related movies (Avengers 1,2, Iron Man, Young Avengers) are they not allowed to make X-Men, Spider-Man, Daredevil, ect. movies? It just seems to me with their huge library of characters they seem to really be limiting themselves.

[Prison Mike]

I think Spider-Man is tied up with Sony and Daredevil with FOX. I know there's going to be a X-Men cartoon with Wolverine as the focus.

[Spider-Vader]

Next Avengers? WTF is that?

[Dread]

What many producers fail to understand, again and again, is that children do not want to be children. They want to be grown-up. A superhero doesn't need to be a kid to be relatable to them and often times that is what is preferred.

I was well into college before I actually liked Robin. I usually found him annoying as a kid. I just wanted to see Batman save the day. That is only one example.

Adults want to be kids. Kids want to be like adults, or try to be, or whatnot.

If you made a 616 Avengers show or movie well enough and mature enough, both kids and adults would enjoy it. You don't need to pander.

It is a shame a lot of good artwork is being wasted.

[SpideyForPrez]

Paying attention Marvel? We hate your animated movies! Step it up!

[Metal Spidey]

I can't really judge it because I never read any of The Avengers comic books.

[Dread]

The irony is that if Marvel wanted to have kid superheroes, they could simply animate the POWER PACK. I mean, that has everything you'd expect in a show about kid heroes for kids. Bright colors. Animal-themed characters. Kids hiding stuff from their parents. Flashy powers. If they wanted to connect it to a mainstream franchise, like LOSH has connected to Superman, they could have Franklin Richards as part of the line-up from the start.

Quite why Marvel has never pitched this to a network, I cannot fathom. Makes too much sense, maybe.

I feel sorry for Ultron and Hawkeye. They're great characters, but have usually been wasted in animation. Hawkeye's glory days were Season 2 of IRON MAN, in a lavender costume.

[DawnWarrior]

Originally Posted by CaptainCanada

That comic would have a bunch of adaptation problems; it's positively awash in continuity minutiae that doesn't exist in any film, and it has prominent gay characters.

Who cares? I mean, I love Young Avengers, I really do, and a watered-down animated version of that might be a disappointment, but I'd rather see THAT than THIS weird thing they're doing. They can just LOOK like the Young Avengers from the comics, I don't care about the backstories. Why are they wasting our time with this?

No Young Avengers, I get that. But they did that Avengers Next book for the MC2 line. Why not animate that? Or a New Warriors movie? Or just another Ultimate Avengers movie? Why bother making something up? This makes no f---ing sense to me.

[DawnWarrior]

Originally Posted by Dread

What many producers fail to understand, again and again, is that children do not want to be children. They want to be grown-up. A superhero doesn't need to be a kid to be relatable to them and often times that is what is preferred.

I was well into college before I actually liked Robin. I usually found him annoying as a kid. I just wanted to see Batman save the day. That is only one example.

Adults want to be kids. Kids want to be like adults, or try to be, or whatnot.

If you made a 616 Avengers show or movie well enough and mature enough, both kids and adults would enjoy it. You don't need to pander.

It is a shame a lot of good artwork is being wasted.

Word. They always try to give us that annoying sidekick as like an "audience surrogate" like Marvin & Wendy or Jubilee or Wesley Crusher or the Thunderkittens, like the kids in the audience are going to relate to them and enjoy watching them hang around the superheroes, as if they were hanging out in the Hall of Justice themselves or something. The problem is, audiences in general, and the kids especially, loathe these characters because they distract from the real superheroes and steal all their thunder. Having the plucky sidekicks save the heroes from certain doom just makes things worse, because it's unrealistic and makes the adult heroes look bad. If you want to give the audience a way in, just make the characters interesting and dimensional. And if there's a kid sidekick, make him/her interesting as well.

I'm working on ideas for an Avengers cartoon myself, and I would have Rick Jones in there, at least at the beginning. Every time I try to make him some kind of surrogate, it feels all wrong. But once I make him just another character, like Cap or Jarvis or any of the other Avengers, then everything works.