Whos is the Bigger Pig?

[Malice]

Well here we are, I ask, who is the bigger Pig?
Porkbarrell spending....

In 2007, the following Pork Barrell projects and how much they spent:
Clinton - 281 projects for 296.2 MILLION dollars
Obama - 53 projects for 97.4 MILLION dollars
McCain - 0 projects for ZERO dollars...

Nice to spend other peoples money

[Mr Sparkle]

of course another way of looking at it is that McCain just had zero projects.

[Malice]

Originally Posted by Mr Sparkle

of course another way of looking at it is that McCain just had zero projects.

Sure.....

[Mr Sparkle]

no?

[Mr Sparkle]

I mean, he is for staying In Iraq.
unless you think that the magical "military appropriations fairy" is financing that?
yes, I know that the other will stay in Iraq as well, but to be fair, he is in it for the long run aint he.
doesn't that cost a lot of millions a week or something?

[SuBe]

Originally Posted by Mr Sparkle

I mean, he is for staying In Iraq.
unless you think that the magical "military appropriations fairy" is financing that?
yes, I know that the other will stay in Iraq as well, but to be fair, he is in it for the long run aint he.
doesn't that cost a lot of millions a week or something?

Do you know what Pork Barrel Spending is? It's also called Earmarks. It is EXTRA spending. It is Extra language added to an existing bill.

[Mr Sparkle]

Originally Posted by SupermanBeyond

Do you know what Pork Barrel Spending is? It's also called Earmarks. It is EXTRA spending. It is Extra language added to an existing bill.

do you know what humor is?
the fact that I said, "of course you could see it as McCain having zero projects" didn't tip that off to you?
my other comment was solely based on the " spending other people's money" rationale.

ahahaha, you people take yourselves so seriously.

[EdRyder]

Yeah,..It cant be denied Hillary is the biggest Piggie.Her name appeared in the Omnibus over a hundred times and a great many of her pork projects are ridiculous.

Funny I feel bad in a way for Arizona.Dont they need some bacon too?

Another point in all objectivity would be: Obama requested over $740 million in pork in three years that wasnt granted.

[SuBe]

Originally Posted by Mr Sparkle

do you know what humor is?
the fact that I said, "of course you could see it as McCain having zero projects" didn't tip that off to you?
my other comment was solely based on the " spending other people's money" rationale.

ahahaha, you people take yourselves so seriously.

Que?

¿Cuál es una broma?

[Malice]

Oink Oink Lets be Pigs!
(what movie is that from?)

[Mr Sparkle]

Originally Posted by SupermanBeyond

Que?

¿Cuál es una broma?

la broma es que McCain no tiene proyectos, y uno pinta las cosas como si eso fuera negativo.

[SuBe]

Originally Posted by Mr Sparkle

la broma es que McCain no tiene proyectos, y uno pinta las cosas como si eso fuera negativo.

Oh, bueno
Descubrí la característica de la traducción en Outlook del MS. Soy el jugar justo

[The Senator]

I don't really care about earmarks. They count for 0.7% of the federal budget.

If you want to stop wasting taxpayer's money, end the war.

[Kelly]

Piggie Business, shows me who is listening to special interests and who isn't......who is making their pay backs, and who isn't.......so its not just about the money....

[EdRyder]

Originally Posted by jmanspice

I don't really care about earmarks. They count for 0.7% of the federal budget.

If you want to stop wasting taxpayer's money, end the war.

Thats not a realistic assessment.Maybe in comparrison to the budget it can account for 0.7% of spending , but the nature of pork itself is to do an end run around our existing budgetary procedures.It isnt like they set aside 0.7% of the budget for "bull****".

In fiscal 08 pork adds up to 11,610 pet projects equalling 17.2 billion in wasteful spending.

[StorminNorman]

Originally Posted by jmanspice

I don't really care about earmarks. They count for 0.7% of the federal budget.

If you want to stop wasting taxpayer's money, end the war.

But thats .7% we don't have and that allows for untold amount of projects that do not benefit the country as a whole.

Pork Barrel spending should be eliminated and I think John McCain, while not his biggest fan, is probably the best to do this.

[The Senator]

Originally Posted by EdRyder

Thats not a realistic assessment.Maybe in comparrison to the budget it can account for 0.7% of spending , but the nature of pork itself is to do an end run around our existing budgetary procedures.It isnt like they set aside 0.7% of the budget for "bull****".

In fiscal 08 pork adds up to 11,610 pet projects equalling 17.2 billion in wasteful spending.

Most of that spending isn't wasteful, though. A lot of these earmarks go to repairing infrastructure, building hospitals or research centers... an earmark may be wasteful spending to some, but it may also be an economic lifeline for a community.

[Kelly]

I love this site......makes for very interesting reading....

http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?...ts_pigbook2007

[EdRyder]

Originally Posted by jmanspice

Most of that spending isn't wasteful, though. A lot of these earmarks go to repairing infrastructure, building hospitals or research centers... an earmark may be wasteful spending to some, but it may also be an economic lifeline for a community.

We've bumped heads on the topic before and Ill give you some of it may in fact be needed spending.We can point to individual items all day ,some clearly wastefull others much needed.Overall the problem is the scramble for pork leaves the issues in the dust.

[rdh007]

Originally Posted by jmanspice

I don't really care about earmarks. They count for 0.7% of the federal budget.

If you want to stop wasting taxpayer's money, end the war.

Seconded.

[Zen]

Originally Posted by jmanspice

Most of that spending isn't wasteful, though. A lot of these earmarks go to repairing infrastructure, building hospitals or research centers... an earmark may be wasteful spending to some, but it may also be an economic lifeline for a community.

aside from bridges to nowhere... i share your sentiment on this.

[SuBe]

http://www.cagw.org/site/DocServer/C...pdf?docID=3001

For anyone wanting to read a Summary.

[Doctor Strange]

Originally Posted by Mr Sparkle

of course another way of looking at it is that McCain just had zero projects.

Not really. Earmarks are tacked onto someone else's bill. Another way of looking at it is that McCain just didn't add earmarks to someone else's bills or whatnot, but he probably had his own projects that pulled in money.

[Doctor Strange]

Originally Posted by jmanspice

building hospitals or research centers...

That isn't the role of federal government; that's the role of the private sector.

[The Senator]

Originally Posted by Doctor Strange

That isn't the role of federal government; that's the role of the private sector.

The federal government has the ability to allocate funds to whichever project it so wants to, as long as it is within one of the nine major appropriations bill. So, in all technicality, it is the federal government's role to do whatever it damn well pleases with taxpayers' money.

I guess it's where some peoples' priorities lie: Building bridges and hospitals or repairing infrastructure is horrible to some people. Dismantling a country from the ground up, destroying their infrastructure and putting soldiers' lives on the line for a war which never should have been fought in the first place, which costs more money than earmarks, is fine and dandy to those same people, though. Hmm.

And honestly, I'd rather have my money go to a hospital in Detroit than the war in Iraq. More money comes out of taxpayers' pockets to fix a bridge in Baghdad than to fix a bridge in California. It will cost taxpayers at least $70 billion to continue the war through FY09. While all earmarks for FY09 have yet to be added up, they came to just over $15 billion in FY09. The last time I analyzed the number line, 15 was less than 70...