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10, Wonderful, Amazing, Rad-Tastic! 250 43.48%
9, Really Awesome 181 31.48%
8, an Action packed fun movie 98 17.04%
7, A good film 27 4.70%
6, I liked it 5 0.87%
5, Okay 7 1.22%
4, Dissapointment 3 0.52%
3, Bad 1 0.17%
2, Sucked major Iron Balls 2 0.35%
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:45 AM   #251
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I liked the music when Tony was at the casino, and the background jazz band was playing the old Iron Man song from the 60's MMMS cartoons...



Oh, didn't know that! Pretty cool!

Btw, I have this feeling that Iron Man was made for the comic fans more than to the mainstream audience like every other comic movie. I think that's great.

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Yeah. Someone probably saw that girl that kinda looks like her in the Casino scene, and reported it as a Hilary Swank siting.
I thought that was her.

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Glad you enjoyed it Cine.

The 2 parts bolded:

I agree that it was refreshing the way Stark and Pepper's relationship was never brought to the usual cliche point, the way she sarcastically knocked him back with a smile at the end was great.

Stane could access Tony's house b/c he was his life long friend and had always had access, at that point he wasn't thinking Stane would go beyond betrayal to actually try to kill him.
Yeah, but why security system didn't even tell Tonny about someone else being in his house considering that it's very advanced. Besides, I don't get how Stane could so easily crawl and get closer to Tony that he didn't even pay any attention.

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All I can say is the guys did good,they outdid themselves.
Was much better than Batman Begins (not that I enjoyed that anyway ).
It lived up to the hype.
Best superhero film I've ever seen - yes,even better than the Spider-Man films, and that's a lot coming from me
Didn't follow the traditional cliched superhero film route either, especially the ending when
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Tony Stark reveals he is Iron Man, in a way similar to the Civil War arc.

Lots of references to the comics too
Oh,and there's an extra scene after the credits.
If The Dark Knight wants to rule supreme,it has a lot to live up to, and a lot to outdo.
Iron Man has raised the bar in terms of superhero films,in my opinion
Definite 10/10, heck 20/10 lol

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Good movie and better than the Spidermans. I liked Batman Begins much better though.

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I was pleased with it. Good action, good story and great casting. Someone mentioned how it looked easy for him to build the suit and that anyone could do it. Well if you listen to the backstory at the beginning, you can hear and see that he is a genius. Of course it looks easy. I am sure it would look easy if you watched DaVinci paint too.

I give this movie a solid 8.

Where could the other two points have gone? 1- Proton Cannon (thats just wishful thinking) 2 War Machine, I am glad that its extremely hinted at for a sequel.

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I'm cheking it, but i'm going to ask one more time:

Did someone got a vibe that Obadiah had a little bit of crush on Pepper. Maybe because she liked Tony, and he hated him?

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No better way to end a crap filled day at work than to go see Iron Man @ 10:55pm. The movie was simply great. Not perfect, but not Spider-Man 3 either. The action was perfect. Iron Mongler and Iron Man shots were awsome. I would agree that the music was the main downfall.Werthy of multiple viewings, and sequels. The Sam Jackson scene after the credits caused great applause from the people as well.

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This Movie Kicked MEGA ASS !!!!!!!

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I'm gonna be "that guy". I have somewhat mixed feelings about IRON MAN. First off, I enjoyed the hell out of this movie. This movie was just a lot of fun on almost every level. It's right up there with the best comic book movies ever made. The story was engaging and relevant, and the emotions were believable. The special effects were masterful. The performances were solid across the board, and Robert Downey Jr. gave what is probably the most involved, most immediate comic book performance that I have ever seen. He was just fantastic.

The tone of the movie itself is a bit meandering. Favreau seems never to be sure whether he wants it to be a serious superhero drama, a comic book romp, a horror movie, or a cartoon (the desert escape). I chalk this up to Jon Favreu's relative inexperience, and the nature of his prior films.
I also have minor issues with pacing and editing. Some of the cuts are just a bit jarring.

I have no issues with the nature of Stark building the suits, or it looking easy, because it's made obvious that it's not something that just "comes together". And it obviously it didn't work the way he expected it to at first. The actual Mark II suit and all it's elements was fantastically realized. Seeing through Stark's eyes, seeing the displays inside his helmet, etc, that was all very cool. The intricacy of it, the working parts, the way the flaps worked when he flew. That was very well done. The suit, and everything about it, was very thought out, other than maybe it's actual protective capabilities.

I still have some issues with the comedy elements. There was, I thought, a bit too much of it, and some of it seems a bit forced. Does Stark have to get hurt/surprised in a hilarious manner EVERY SINGLE TIME he tries out his new suit? Ha ha, we get it, there are some bugs to work out. The comedic moments are broadcast from a mile away. It's a minor complaint, just not real realistic to see him slammed into a wall at 100 MPH and...you know, survive. The moment in the desert after the escape, where he falls into the sand and his suit falls apart was ridiculous. Almost cartoonish in nature. Downey does a great job selling most of it, and some of the lines are classic.

"Hi, Mr. Stark, remember me?"
"Sure don't."

I suppose my main issue with the movie is the villain, the threat and the nature of the final battle. Jeff Bridges gave a fine performance as Obadiah Stane. But Obadiah Stane was pretty much nonexistent as a character. You knew he was a villain from the moment you saw him, you never doubted he was a villain, and any "twists" to that effect didn't have much impact. We never got into Stane's motivations beyond "I want us to have the power for the future". We never got to see the master strategist, with plans upon plans upon plans, and we never got to see anything but "pure evil" from him. He mentions at one point that he wants to protect Tony, and it would have been nice to see this angle played up a bit more, to see a bit more developed in terms of Tony, Stane, and Stane's relationship with Howard Stark. They seem like casual business partners throughout most of the movie, and the "your father" elements just don't have much weight to them. The problem with having a mentor turn on you, is that he has to be a mentor first, for that to have any weight. Stane's few "business advice" moments don't equal that kind of development.

And the final battle, as cool as it is, and as well realized, it just essentially devolves into a ridiculous series of relatively poorly acted comic book cliches, which quickly become very annoying, and took me right out of it. The dialogue there is just...pretty bad.

"Staaaaaane!"

The way the battle ends up is ok, and the use of the arc reactor makes sense in context, and will obviously have some future significance, but the last battle just kind of feels "pieced together", and it doesn't flow real well. It's like they just took some action sequence ideas and smushed them all into one battle. Do we really need to see him get run over by the hot soccer mom? Really?

As for the actors:

Robert Downey Jr. was amazing. There is no need to say any more. He is a fantastic choice for the role, visually and otherwise. His performance was at times subtle, overt, comedic, touching and tragic, and he displayed great range. The best comic book performance in years, perhaps ever. He really got into the role and sold it.

Gwyneth Paltrow as Pepper Potts was ok. Her acting in the last third of the movie left quite a bit to be desired. Her "damsel in distress" moments were just absurdly over the top. Her character really isn't all that interesting to begin with, but you do appreciate the dynamic between them, and she and Downey had pretty good chemistry together. Still, there were probably better choices for the role.

Terrence Howard I'm not sure about. His performance was all right, and there's a lot of empathy to it, but I'm not sure if quiet and soft is the right approach. He just wasn't all that impressive for the most part, and there were likely better choices for the role. The nod to War Machine was nice. "Daaaaamn" was not. I thought he accepted the fact that Stark was Iron Man a little too easily, given his position in the military and as Stark's friend.

Jeff Bridges did what he could with a fairly thin character. I won't debate that the man oozed evil. The scene where he's slowly pulling out Stark's "heart" was fantastically done between them both. No issues with the "villainy" part of his villain. The writing could have been much more interesting.

I thought that Shaun Taub was a bit too perky and over the top. I wanted to see a bit more gravitas brought to the role of Yinsen, with Stark providing him some hope in a hopeless situation, etc, but apparently he was just really chipper. It's a shame that his character and the time they shared together was never referenced again after the "Thank you for saving me" moment.

Jarvis was pretty funny. Paul Bettany was an interesting choice, and worked well. Making him into a computer was a neat choice, and gave Pepper more relevance in Tony's life.

Overall, the entire cast had great chemistry, and really bounced off each other well.

The story was pretty straightforward. Borrowing a page from BATMAN BEGINS and DAREDEVIL and telling some elements of it out of sequence didn't make it any more impressive. It was nice to see the relevance of the weapons and their impact on the world, but we didn't see much of it beyond that one small village.

Storywise, the story was everything "Iron Man's story" should be, which is good, but there's really nothing in this movie that isn't "obvious". There's a not a lot of what it "could be". And it hurts me to say that. Tony's motivations are very obvious, his transformation immediate. Every little nod made to the comics is "obvious". And that's...part of what they got right, but also part of what hampered the film a bit. There really were not very many risks taken. The story feels very "safe". Fun, and accurate, but "safe". Sticking a really blatant (but not all that satisying) nod to The Mandarin into the story without establishing his group's motivations (what, ruling all of Asia?) didn't work for me. I didn't feel the Ten Rings were much of a threat, just because they're painted as terrorists. Iron Man wiped them out quickly and effectively, and maybe there's a larger organization out there, but we never got a sense of that. The overall threat in this movie (Stane and the nature of Stark's weapons control), while very personal and well realized, just didn't feel like enough.

The SHIELD elements were very cool. They nailed the personality of the Shield agents (props to the actor who played Caulder), and the way SHIELD crept into the movie little by little was nicely done. As awesome as it is to see Nick Fury appear and talk about the Avengers Initiative, I think that they've asked Tony Stark to join rather quickly. I mean, the man JUST appeared. But then, something like The Avengers would take a long time to put together. It's really a minor quibble.

The dialogue ranged from fantastic to poor. Most of it was solid, and the actors sold almost every line well. Few complaints here.

The music was pretty standard, even lousy. Wayyy cliche. "DA DA DAAAAAA" when the villains appear is not a good score. Not an impressive score.

I give it an 8. A 10 is a movie that takes a completely mature approach to material, which this, in the final tally, did not. A 9 is a movie that has some fun, but manages to resist the urge to "pander" a lot. And with moments like "Daaaaamn", and the occassionally cartoony and predictably comic booky/random funny moment stuff, I think there was definitely a bit of that going on. It's a strong 8, and a very good movie with some minor but fairly apparent flaws.

This is a very good movie. But I don't think that it's a great one. They're building something. That much is obvious. I'm sure sequels will feature more specialized armors and more if Ten Rings. And War Machine, and SHIELD. And that's something to look forward to for sure.

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Just came from theater. Movies is AWESOME! Best MARVEL movie. Yes, even better than Spider-man 2 and X2.
Movie is so action-packed, but it still has insane amount of depth. Luckily, I don't read Ironman comics, so Iron Monger came as a suprise. (I didn't read spoilers either.) Everyone makes perfect job in acting.

10/10!

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Good review The Guard.

I don't read Iron Man comics and thought that the film was very good, but I was not blown away.
I'd give it 8.5/10, it's the best Marvel film thus far.

One of the weak elements for me was how fast Stark's partner learned to alter & perfectly control Iron Monger.


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It would have got a 10 from me but two things killed it at the last moment so it gets a 9! But it was amazing and better than I had hoped...Downey Jr. gave a career best performance! Favreau outdid himself and raised the bar for more superhero movies to come and try to top what he, his cast and crew and sfx dept did!
Okay...the only downer...Gwyneth's damsel in distress attitude toward the end of the movie was not in keeping with her earlier character scenes.
And the other one that hurt it for me...horrible score...fake rock/metal michael bay type action music...i know that is something Favs stood by with the whole look theme and feel of Iron Man...but it really hurt some of the action for me...imho only. 9.5 outta 10 - hows that!?
This film is gonna get multiple viewings from me and my friends and I have a feeling that word of mouth for this one will carry on throughout the rest of the summer! PEACE! Off to work...

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i didn't think this movie was going to be any good, but i have to say this is my second favorite superhero movie !!!!! 9/10 !!!!!!!!

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So, this is what it feels like to come back from a Marvel movie happy. I'd forgotten what it feels like since the last time was Spider-Man 2 four years ago.

The climax was a little disappointing, but the rest of the movie was so clever that it didn't affect my overall opinion much. This was at least as good as Spider-Man 2 and X2, and had the perfect balance of heart, humor, and kickass moments. RDJr was perfect as Tony, and even Gwyneth Paltrow, who annoys me and whose movies I normally avoid, was fairly endearing as Pepper. Plus, the movie was actually almost entirely accurate to the comics. The changes were minimal and made perfect sense. Go figure. (I'm looking at you, Bryan Singer)

It's possibly as good as Batman Begins, my favorite superhero movie so far, but it's hard to compare the two since the tone of the characters is so drastically different. It's more fun than BB by far, but the direction and acting aren't quite as good. Though nobody in Iron Man matches the complete charisma vacuum of Katie Holmes, the Middle Eastern villains really leave a lot to be desired. And since they do play a pretty big role in the film, they are a detriment.

I give it a solid 8, which is the best score anyone could hope for from me. I generally don't give any movies above that unless they absolutely blow my mind, and I don't think I've ever given anything a 10.

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Yeah, but why security system didn't even tell Tonny about someone else being in his house considering that it's very advanced. Besides, I don't get how Stane could so easily crawl and get closer to Tony that he didn't even pay any attention.
Same reason the security system never tell Tony that Pepper or Rhodey are in the house. The guy was there all the time, part of the family.
And second, Tony's not Batman. He doesn't hear people sneaking behind him. Without the suit, he's not much of a threat.
Really, that's just nitpicking very hard.

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Oh, and this movie had the best product-placement ever.

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Great film, great tone, and it had some good moments.

Don't know what to think about what he said at the end, but oh well. One of the best Marvel films by far - I'd rank this right behind Batman Begins (sorry, I'm biased) in terms of film releases the last few years.

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Its hard to find a good director these days and its hard to find a director with REAL vision for a movie. I've always liked John Favreau (hes a nice guy) from his TV show Dinner for Five and also for his brief appearance in Daredevil where his interactions with Affleck were down to Earth and seemed like it was all improvisation.

Lets hope he makes more comic movies because he seems to understand what the audience wants.

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Alright, now that I am rested, time for my details. This has spoilers, so read at own risk.

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-Acting- The acting is incredible in this movie. Bridges came into his own as the movie progressed, becoming very creepy. Paltrow did a great job as Pepper. Especially in the scene before the end press conference. Also was nice to see her not get kidnapped, but that will come later. However, you can't discuss acting performance without talking about Robert Downey Jr. In my opinion, it was the best performance for an actor playing a superhero since Christopher Reeve first dawned the "S" in Superman: The Movie. In this movie, he WAS Tony Stark. Jon got the right man for this movie, and deserves props for making he perfect casting choice no one else would have ever thought of prior.

-Story- The movie takes all the right elements of Iron Man's origin, Armor Wars, etc. and mixes the classic Iron Man story elements with newer ones very well (I thought the public identity was a good idea to go with). Iron Monger was the right choice of Armored villain also, as he fit seamlessly into the story. I also loved how Pepper is not kidnapped and that her and Tony don't officially get together (as are both precedents in superhero movies, even when they are unneeded). I must also give props to how they handled the Mandarin in this. While the idea is heavily reworked, I love the references they throw out from the comic Mandarin (probably to come later in the series, and how the Ten Rings are reworked into an organization (though it isn't quite the comic Mandarin). While I love the comic book Mandarin, I can see why they altered the idea way they did (never even referring to him by name, at least as far as I noticed).

-Effects- All I can say is wow to the effects. The CGI in this movie was top notch, and some of the best I have seen. A lot of props must go out to the effects crew. I am not a huge CGI fan, but here is a case where it looked outstanding (unlike the CGI in the Indy 4 trailer, in which it looks completely fake).

-Ending- I loved the after the credits scene, and I hope we get Cap and Thor soon so we can get moving on the Avengers movie. This is probably years away, but it was a nice appetite wetter. I will be curious to see if they try IM2 before Avengers. The Paramount guy at the premiere said IM2 may be go for 2010, but I will wait to hear from Marvel on this.

Negatives:

-Howard was weak as Rhodey. He didn't seem to have the spine I always felt Rhodey had in the comic. He seemes like a weaker man, and this is the one area of casting I feel we could have seen improvement. Though, to be fair, Rhodey didn't really do much in the movie.

-Score- Wasn't bad, but it could have been better. Better has been done in this genre. Also, I still say Black Sabbath's "Iron Man" is a very inappropriate song for this movie. Just listen to the words, it is not heroic!

-Tony Stark doesn't change all that much as a character once he returns from the Middle East. From then on, he realizes his past sins and decided to atone for them, no matter the costs. We don't really see his obsession grow deeper. It just is kind of his obsession, and he is always inherently right. He ideals don't fall into question or anything.

Overall, 4 of 5 and an elite example of Superhero movies. I can't wait for more from Marvel Studios. Great start guys


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The same here, the whole conference was funny.

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8 out of 10

great movie.. very fun,
but lacked a great climax... the final fight was just sloppy,
the main bad guy was scarier without the suit.lol

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Same reason the security system never tell Tony that Pepper or Rhodey are in the house. The guy was there all the time, part of the family.
And second, Tony's not Batman. He doesn't hear people sneaking behind him. Without the suit, he's not much of a threat.
Really, that's just nitpicking very hard.
I understand this, but it just looked cheesy and it seemed like writers were too lazy to come up with something better.
Yeah, Tony is not Batman, but even I would notice that someone is beyond my back.

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I do agree the score was weak, but overall, good film and a great start for Marvel. Huge improvement over the last few years of weak releases (both FF films & GR specifically).

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