The 2008 Democratic and Republican Primaries

[StorminNorman]

Originally Posted by souvlaki

I doubt it too. But I dont think it's going to be the 10% margin that Clinton's internals show.

Internal polling is quite often the most accurate.

[souvlaki]

Originally Posted by TheMarx

Is that quote from Obama's campaign aides? If that is the case, of course they are going to downplay the latino vote and ramp up the African-American one. You know?

Not on election day. If their internal polls were showing they were doing bad they would be downplaying expectations.

[souvlaki]

Originally Posted by StorminNorman

Internal polling is quite often the most accurate.

Ohio in 2004, and New Hampshire two months ago disagree with you.

Like I said earlier, internal polling generally shows how well your own ground campaign is doing, not how well your opponents is.

[StorminNorman]

Originally Posted by souvlaki

Ohio in 2004, and New Hampshire two months ago disagree with you.

Like I said earlier, internal polling generally shows how well your own ground campaign is doing, not how well your opponents is.

Every Polling has its examples of inaccuracies. That being said - by in large - its the most accurate.

[souvlaki]

Originally Posted by hippie_hunter

CNN's latest exit polls:

Clinton leads among voters without a college degree, while Obama leads among those with one in Ohio.

Most Texans think that Clinton is more qualified than Obama, but attacked Obama unfairly.

Once again, useless exit polls from CNN. That last one is slightly interesting, but really, overall, their exit polls are beyond obvious. Black people are supporting Obama? What a shocker!

[souvlaki]

Originally Posted by StorminNorman

Every Polling has its examples of inaccuracies. That being said - by in large - its the most accurate.

Oh, I agree... I just think it will be a little closer, especially given how many undecided voters there were as of yesterday.

[Marx]

CNN reporting large hispanic voter turnout in Texas.

[hippie_hunter]

Obama and McCain win Vermont

[Excel]

C'mon Barack, win! You can put her away tonight! But as has been said the past 2 weeks-unless the wins in texas and ohio are landslide wins for hillary, she hasnt helped herself.

[souvlaki]

They are saying that it's possible that Obama may win more delegates from Vermont than Hillary may win from both Texas, Rhode Island, and Ohio. If Obama were to win more overall delegates from Vermont than Hillary does from the other three, but Hillary wins the other three, I wonder how the media would spin that.

[redfirebird2008]

Originally Posted by TheMarx

CNN reporting large hispanic voter turnout in Texas.

The other day they were talking about a county that has 98% Hispanic voters. They said it would be a good gauge on how the vote is going. I don't like the people on CNN, mainly Wolf Blitzer (annoying douche bag), but their county-by-county breakdown is pretty cool.

[souvlaki]

Yeah, judging from the exit polls popping up on CNN, it sounds like Obama killed her in Vermont. He beat her by a sizable margin in every category, including senior citizens.

[hippie_hunter]

Originally Posted by souvlaki

They are saying that it's possible that Obama may win more delegates from Vermont than Hillary may win from both Texas, Rhode Island, and Ohio. If Obama were to win more overall delegates from Vermont than Hillary does from the other three, but Hillary wins the other three, I wonder how the media would spin that.

That makes no sense at all.

[hippie_hunter]

Originally Posted by souvlaki

Yeah, judging from the exit polls popping up on CNN, it sounds like Obama killed her in Vermont. He beat her by a sizable margin in every category, including senior citizens.

I was just about to say that she not only lost but got pwned in Vermont.

[souvlaki]

Originally Posted by hippie_hunter

That makes no sense at all.

Um... if the other three states are close, and Vermont is not it completely makes sense. I'm talking about net delegates, not overall.

[redfirebird2008]

Originally Posted by hippie_hunter

That makes no sense at all.

Actually it does. If she wins Ohio and Texas by 1% each like she did in New Mexico, then what good does it do her? He's probably going to have Vermont by 25+% so that's where the difference would come in.

[Excel]

what times do polls in Ohio, Texas close?

[Marx]

Originally Posted by Excel

what times do polls in Ohio, Texas close?

Polls close here in Ohio at 730. Texas and Rhode Island close at 9.

[redfirebird2008]

In Texas, most of the state closes at 7 CDT, aka 8 EDT. However, part of the state is mountain time zone, so it is 9 EDT, 8 CDT. That would be El Paso mainly. I am not sure how they are going to count the caucus. The caucus starts at 7:15 CDT (hour from now) and I am not sure how long it goes on or when they start counting.

[souvlaki]

Originally Posted by TheMarx

CNN reporting large hispanic voter turnout in Texas.

CNN also reported that Republicans accounted for 10% of the vote. That's the one that really interests me.

[souvlaki]

Originally Posted by TheMarx

Polls close here in Ohio at 730. Texas and Rhode Island close at 9.

They just extended it to 9 in the northern parts of Ohio because of the weather.

[redfirebird2008]

Originally Posted by souvlaki

CNN also reported that Republicans accounted for 10% of the vote. That's the one that really interests me.

Yeah, it will be interesting to see whether the typical Texas white male Republican votes against Hillary (their gut instinct) or if they do what Rush Limbaugh has told them to do and vote for Hillary. Should be very entertaining to see the results of that demographic.

[Excel]

therev are reports of repbulicans voting for hillary so its her running against mccain

[Marx]

Originally Posted by souvlaki

They just extended it to 9 in the northern parts of Ohio because of the weather.

Yeah I just saw that! You beat me to it Souv!

[souvlaki]

Originally Posted by redfirebird2008

Yeah, it will be interesting to see whether the typical Texas white male Republican votes against Hillary (their gut instinct) or if they do what Rush Limbaugh has told them to do and vote for Hillary. Should be very entertaining to see the results of that demographic.

I'm thinking Texas Republicans may lean Obama, and Ohio Republicans may lean Clinton. What's interesting is in both states Republicans accounted for 10% of the vote. The Republicans may well decide the Democratic Primary.