The Killing Joke

TheAQU4M4N · 06-01-2008, 12:08 AM

has anyone bought the reprint? i don't think i've ever read it and its a rare find for the original so im gunna go buy the reprint

Joker · 06-01-2008, 01:08 AM

We have a whole Batman comics forum. The original isnt that rare, I picked mine up a few years ago (first print) for $15. And the reprint is worth having, but so is the original. The reprint has brand new coloring, and Bolland re-did some line work. But you should get both.

Hush · 06-01-2008, 02:19 AM

I got the reprint it took me two reads (i was hungry the 1st time) but i enjoyed it ALOT.

yenaled · 06-01-2008, 04:19 AM

Although Bolland has come a long way with his ability to colour - there is something about the original I prefer more.

The carnival scenes just look so boring now where the original is an array of colours - feels much more mental like it should.

Joker · 06-01-2008, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by yenaled

Although Bolland has come a long way with his ability to colour - there is something about the original I prefer more.

The carnival scenes just look so boring now where the original is an array of colours - feels much more mental like it should.

The original was NOT colored by Bolland. He had no say in the coloring, which is why he wanted to do this version and color it himself, to get across what he was originally doing. I love all the people going "well, it should be like the original, cause of such and such," when really, if Bolland had colored it first, and then the original came out like this new hardcover did, people would be saying the exact same thing.

DEMONS BLOOD · 06-01-2008, 07:02 AM

I've got the original,but I do plan on picking up the reprint here sometime soon.

yenaled · 06-01-2008, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

The original was NOT colored by Bolland. He had no say in the coloring, which is why he wanted to do this version and color it himself, to get across what he was originally doing. I love all the people going "well, it should be like the original, cause of such and such," when really, if Bolland had colored it first, and then the original came out like this new hardcover did, people would be saying the exact same thing.

Doesn't really change my point though.

"I find the new colours a bit boring compared to the original"

Doesn't really matter who coloured what.

DoomJester · 06-01-2008, 12:42 PM

Which one is the reprint? The new hardcover version or the one reprinted in the Alan Moore DC stories or the stand-alone almost cardstock cover one? Sorry, I'm a little confused.

Joker · 06-01-2008, 04:47 PM

The hardcover has the new colors. The one in the Alane Moore DC trade and the stand alone with the cardstock cover are both the original colors.

DoomJester · 06-01-2008, 05:34 PM

Okay thanks. Part of me wants to check it out, the greater part of me thinks it isn't worth it.

Killgore · 06-01-2008, 06:24 PM

It's well worth it. Bollands coloring is so much better than the garish colors of the old one. And the extra story with the penguin at the end is good also.

DoomJester · 06-01-2008, 06:30 PM

Hmm... well, I am a big batman fan, maybe a used copy from Amazon isn't such a bad idea, the thing about the colors is good because something about the coloring never rubbed me right anyways.

TheAQU4M4N · 06-01-2008, 10:08 PM

one of the reasons i wanted to pick this up was b/c i wanted some GN that was inspired by TDK, it sucks i wasn't around to buy the original but now i am able to read it..

p.marlowe · 06-01-2008, 11:07 PM

I own both and Love them.

TheAQU4M4N · 06-02-2008, 04:26 PM

lucky..

The Eagle Host · 06-02-2008, 07:50 PM

The Man Who Laughs was better.

Blader5489 · 06-02-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Eagle Host

The Man Who Laughs was better.

Yeah, I agree.

DoomJester · 06-02-2008, 09:57 PM

Really? I never got to read it. I want to. DC has been really pushing my patience with expensive hard-cover stories that just don't (at least in my mind) warrant hard-cover. I know they are tacking on some money for that binding. There are a few Bat books I'm behind on. I'm trying to get more!

RazTheGreat · 06-03-2008, 08:58 AM

You know, I went out and bought this, due to all the hype the story has received, but beyond the "WOW" moment with the Joker and Barbara , I can't say I really cared for the story. In fact, I'd say if it wasn't for that single moment, that changed Batgirl into Orcale, this story really wouldn't get all the rave that it does.

Still, Bolland's art is just dreamy.

webhead921 · 06-03-2008, 08:10 PM

I got it in the alan moore collection. It has the Killing Joke, plus some other great stories as well. It was well worth the money.

Arkady Rossovich · 06-03-2008, 08:29 PM

^Same as me. But I did not get the ending,why did the Joker and Batman laugh? Also,the origin is very good...far better than the simple origin in the 1989 Batman film.

Danger Mouse · 06-03-2008, 08:35 PM

Generally not a huge fan of DC comics, I just bought the hardcover reprint of The Killing Joke with Bolland's coloring. I was blown away. Love it. This would certainly be up there in my limited collection of DC comics, along with Kingdom Come and The Red Son.

Joker · 06-04-2008, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Arkady Rossovich

^Same as me. But I did not get the ending,why did the Joker and Batman laugh? Also,the origin is very good...far better than the simple origin in the 1989 Batman film.

You see, the Joker told a Joke, which was really a thinly veiled metaphor of how ridiculous the situation they constantly find themselves in is, and they both got it, and laughed, as you do when you get a joke. I don't see what's so complicated about that...

Assassin · 06-05-2008, 02:32 AM

One of the more over-rated of the Alan Moore stories

Hans · 06-05-2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by yenaled

Although Bolland has come a long way with his ability to colour - there is something about the original I prefer more.

The carnival scenes just look so boring now where the original is an array of colours - feels much more mental like it should.

I feel the exact same way. The older, flat coloring just has something that newer colorsists lack. It doesn't work for everything, but for Bolland's art in this one, it worked perfectly.

06-01-2008, 12:08 AM	#1
TheAQU4M4N K1NG Of ATL4NTiS! Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,215	The Killing Joke has anyone bought the reprint? i don't think i've ever read it and its a rare find for the original so im gunna go buy the reprint __________________ *"Destiny is like a riptide. You never know it's pulling you until its too late."*

06-01-2008, 01:08 AM	#2
Joker Banned User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Ha-Hacienda Posts: 33,772	Re: The Killing Joke We have a whole Batman comics forum. The original isnt that rare, I picked mine up a few years ago (first print) for $15. And the reprint is worth having, but so is the original. The reprint has brand new coloring, and Bolland re-did some line work. But you should get both.

06-01-2008, 04:19 AM	#4
yenaled 3X2(9YZ)4A Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Zur-En-Arrh, England. Posts: 8,234	Re: The Killing Joke Although Bolland has come a long way with his ability to colour - there is something about the original I prefer more. The carnival scenes just look so boring now where the original is an array of colours - feels much more mental like it should. __________________ Tovar's incredulity is surpassed only by Tovar's rage! films to make you better feeling & youtube & blog & twitter

06-01-2008, 07:02 AM	#6
DEMONS BLOOD Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: USA Posts: 57	Re: The Killing Joke I've got the original,but I do plan on picking up the reprint here sometime soon.

06-01-2008, 12:42 PM	#8
DoomJester A side-kick no longer. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 882	Re: The Killing Joke Which one is the reprint? The new hardcover version or the one reprinted in the Alan Moore DC stories or the stand-alone almost cardstock cover one? Sorry, I'm a little confused.

06-01-2008, 04:47 PM	#9
Joker Banned User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Ha-Hacienda Posts: 33,772	Re: The Killing Joke The hardcover has the new colors. The one in the Alane Moore DC trade and the stand alone with the cardstock cover are both the original colors.

06-01-2008, 05:34 PM	#10
DoomJester A side-kick no longer. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 882	Re: The Killing Joke Okay thanks. Part of me wants to check it out, the greater part of me thinks it isn't worth it.

06-01-2008, 06:24 PM	#11
Killgore Side-Kick Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,724	Re: The Killing Joke It's well worth it. Bollands coloring is so much better than the garish colors of the old one. And the extra story with the penguin at the end is good also. __________________ Any person who would give up a piece of their liberty for a little temporary security deserves neither liberty nor safety. --Benjamin Franklin

06-01-2008, 06:30 PM	#12
DoomJester A side-kick no longer. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 882	Re: The Killing Joke Hmm... well, I am a big batman fan, maybe a used copy from Amazon isn't such a bad idea, the thing about the colors is good because something about the coloring never rubbed me right anyways.

06-01-2008, 10:08 PM	#13
TheAQU4M4N K1NG Of ATL4NTiS! Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,215	Re: The Killing Joke one of the reasons i wanted to pick this up was b/c i wanted some GN that was inspired by TDK, it sucks i wasn't around to buy the original but now i am able to read it.. __________________ *"Destiny is like a riptide. You never know it's pulling you until its too late."*

06-01-2008, 11:07 PM	#14
p.marlowe Use your inside voice Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 732	Re: The Killing Joke I own both and Love them. __________________ I love you. I hope you are okay.

06-02-2008, 04:26 PM	#15
TheAQU4M4N K1NG Of ATL4NTiS! Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,215	Re: The Killing Joke lucky.. __________________ *"Destiny is like a riptide. You never know it's pulling you until its too late."*

06-02-2008, 09:57 PM	#18
DoomJester A side-kick no longer. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 882	Re: The Killing Joke Really? I never got to read it. I want to. DC has been really pushing my patience with expensive hard-cover stories that just don't (at least in my mind) warrant hard-cover. I know they are tacking on some money for that binding. There are a few Bat books I'm behind on. I'm trying to get more!

06-03-2008, 08:58 AM	#19
RazTheGreat Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 57	Re: The Killing Joke You know, I went out and bought this, due to all the hype the story has received, but beyond the "WOW" moment with the Joker and Barbara , I can't say I really cared for the story. In fact, I'd say if it wasn't for that single moment, that changed Batgirl into Orcale, this story really wouldn't get all the rave that it does. Still, Bolland's art is just dreamy.

06-03-2008, 08:10 PM	#20
webhead921 Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 386	Re: The Killing Joke I got it in the alan moore collection. It has the Killing Joke, plus some other great stories as well. It was well worth the money. __________________ Great Job! I'm Commander Shepard, and Jade Empire is my favorite Bioware game on the Citadel.

06-03-2008, 08:29 PM	#21
Arkady Rossovich Banned User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Currently Unknown Posts: 7,408	Re: The Killing Joke ^Same as me. But I did not get the ending,why did the Joker and Batman laugh? Also,the origin is very good...far better than the simple origin in the 1989 Batman film.

06-03-2008, 08:35 PM	#22
Danger Mouse Kitchen Appliance Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: In bed with Scarlett Johansson. Posts: 32,021	Re: The Killing Joke Generally not a huge fan of DC comics, I just bought the hardcover reprint of The Killing Joke with Bolland's coloring. I was blown away. Love it. This would certainly be up there in my limited collection of DC comics, along with Kingdom Come and The Red Son. __________________ "They'll rape us to death, eat our flesh and sew our skins into their clothings. And if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order."

06-05-2008, 02:32 AM	#24
Assassin Detroit's Reckoning Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 18,947	Re: The Killing Joke One of the more over-rated of the Alan Moore stories __________________ Theatricality and deception are powerful agents against the un-initiated, but we are initiated, aren't we Bruce?

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