DC Could Learn Lessons From Marvel's Movie Strategy

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By Michael Avila
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Who would have thought the game-changer in the comic book movie wars would not be a “Spider-Man”, a “Batman” or even a “Superman” – but an “Iron Man.”
$526 million worldwide dollars later it looks like a no-brainer, but Iron Man was far from a slam-dunk when it was announced as the initial release from the newly formed Marvel Studios back in 2006-'07. For all his importance in the current Marvel comic book universe, 'ol Shellhead had very little Main Street cred (until it hit developmental snags, Captain America was supposed to be the first self-produced Marvel movie).
But the initial chapter of Marvel Studios’ plan to be a stand-alone studio paid immediate dividends. The success of Jon Favreau’s character-rich adaptation also provided the latest evidence that Marvel has a better grasp on its moviemaking strategy than arch-rival DC.
Entertainment Weekly writer Marc Bernardin says it’s premature to give Marvel the edge. As he (correctly) points out, Marvel’s had just one certified self-financed hit. “Marvel’s just coming into their own, so I think it’s way too early to declare “Mission: Accomplished And if you look at the films they’ve done in partnerships with other studios, they’ve had as many failures as they have successes,” he says.
The huge dollars earned by the Spider-Man and X-Men franchises kind of make you forget about stinkers like Elektra and The Punisher. Plus, despite their big box office totals, is there anyone out there who really thinks the Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider and Daredevil were actually any good??
But there’s no disputing that the House of Ideas has Juggernaut-like momentum on its side right now.
Offbeat casting choices like Robert Downey Jr. and Edward Norton caught the attention of non-comics fans and impressed fanboys, while clever promotional ideas stoked the fires. Iron Man really broke from the pack after its electrifying Comic-Con reveal last year. And keeping the Incredible Hulk under wraps until just recently was a risky move that ultimately could prove genius.
The upcoming reboot of the Hulk sparked genuine fan-ticipation with its crowd-pleasing presentation at April’s NY Comic Con. If the film delivers on the action the trailer promises, Marvel could score back-to-back blockbusters.
The company also has a Murderer’s Row of upcoming projects: Iron Man 2 and Thor in 2010, Captain America along with the Avengers team-up film in 2011, plus Ant Man and Runaways in development.
Meanwhile, nearly all of DC’s characters seem to be languishing in a Hollywood Crisis. Hard to believe since DC’s heroes were once the cape kings of Hollywood, but Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Flash, Green Arrow and Green Lantern have all gotten snared in developmental hell at some point. While Marvel makes news with Iron Man’s $100 Million opening weekend, DC’s heroes make the trades with word that the ill-planned Justice League movie has been mercifully shelved.
To be fair, DC is at a huge disadvantage. It doesn’t have an independent studio arm making and financing its own movies based on their characters. It has little, if any say in how projects are developed. The company is part of a huge conglomerate, Time Warner. And while Warner Bros., the studio that produces and distributes films based on DC creations, is part of the same corporate family tree, it doesn’t allow for the kind of control over the material that Marvel has over theirs.
With Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige overseeing all its projects, the Marvel movies are aiming for a cohesive structure, a narrative consistency. The ‘Nick Fury’ cameo in Iron Man was Step One toward the creation of a Marvel movie universe (Step Two is coming soon), so the characters we’re used to seeing interact in the comics will soon do so in theaters.
In the meantime, DC’s heroes struggle just to get into the multiplex. Sure, Batman is doing just fine but Wonder Woman’s still waiting, six decades later, for her close up, while Superman’s film future is rather tenuous after Bryan Singer’s lackluster Superman Returns. There’s a certain irony in the fact that the company whose flagship character can see through walls has shown a glaring lack of vision when it comes to the Big Picture of two of its Holy Trinity.
So how can DC’s movie fortunes be turned around? Thankfully, a certain Caped Crusader is on his way to help.
Even though Heath Ledger’s tragic death has cast a pall over the project, The Dark Knight is all but certain to be a smash hit when it opens in July. The Batman franchise in general is in good hands with Christopher Nolan. No one grasps the concept of a superhero franchise better than Nolan, and Christian Bale just happens to be the best Batman ever.
Then there’s Watchmen.
Due in March 2009, the film based on Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons’ epic graphic novel took nearly 20 years to finally get into production. But does Watchmen have the broad appeal to be a breakout hit? Characters such as Dr. Manhattan and Nite Owl, heroes can’t even match Booster Gold’s Q rating, after all. But EW’s Bernardin says under-estimating Watchmen as just a cult book is a mistake.
“...Let’s not forget, Watchmen has sold millions of copies, and it’s widely respected as one of the 20th century’s great books. By and large, the people who’ve only ever read one graphic novel — Watchmen was the one. So there’s a pretty large installed base there.”
DC/Warner Bros. need to start giving the bench players a shot, just like Marvel is doing with its second-stringers like Ant-Man, Hawkeye, Luke Cage and Deadpool.
David Goyer’s ‘Supermax: Green Arrow’ script is gaining momentum, as is a ‘Green Lantern’ movie. Both characters have been around forever and their histories offer a wealth of storytelling options, much like Iron Man. They’re the kind of characters that could attract top-shelf acting and directing talent.
Another lesson DC/Warner Bros. could learn from Marvel is getting fresh talent involved. Joel Silver’s had the option on Wonder Woman for so long, one of the early favorites to play Princess Diana, Sandra Bullock, will soon be able to play her mother Hippolyta. Silver hasn’t piloted a good movie since V for Vendetta and he can’t get this one off the ground. Warners should try to buy out his option or convince him to bring Joss Whedon back into the fold. The greatest female comic book character deserves her own movie by now, don’t you think?
And what about the Man of Steel? In the Golden Age of comic book movies, where does Superman fit in? In a time when the United States isn’t winning any popularity contests around the world, some people don’t think it’s the best time to showcase a hero who represents Truth, Justice and the American Way.
I disagree. Superman isn’t just DC’s flagship. He’s the standard-bearer for the entire industry. If done right, people will line up just like they did to see the 1978 movie. Warner Bros. should fast-track the sequel already so we can see just what Bryan Singer means by going “Wrath of Kahn.”
And for Pete’s sake, keep the “Justice League: 90210” movie idea buried!

I agree with this article, but the title should be "WB Could Learn Lessons From Marvel's Movie Strategy". DC really needs their own studio and more creative control instead of WB execs messing things up.

[explode7]

^Dude WB created DC. In other words DC has its own studio in a sort of technical way.

[cerealkiller182]

I hear DC should learn from Marvel but what has Marvel done:

Blade,Spiderman, and Xmen series- Really great start but petered out in part 3

Punisher, Hulk, and Daredevil- tried hard but ultimately failed and in 2/3 went in new direction

Fantastic Four and Ghost Rider- Laughable movies which seemed that Marvel just settled.

Iron Man and maybe the Incredible Hulk- Shows promise in "under new management" premise.

The thing that DC hasnt done has been to settle (except with Vertigo titles for some reason). Their projects have gone in and out of production as just as long as Marvel has been making movies. Lately they have been getting more steam than ever though.

[The Major]

Originally Posted by explode7

^Dude WB created DC.

DC existed before WB bought them.

In other words DC has its own studio in a sort of technical way.

Works in theory, sucks in reality.

[explode7]

Really I didn't know that. I thought DC and WB are truly one.

[TheComicbookKid]

Nope DC was actually several different companies that combined in the 30s. WB bought the company in the 60s or 70s.

Here's the only strategy DC needs.

RELEASE A MOVIE THAT ISN'T SUPERMAN OR BATMAN.

[dnno1]

Actually DC was aquired by Warner Brothers back in the late 60, early 70's.

[The Batman]

anyone else find this "Dc needs to be like Marvel" crap really irritating?

Like mentioned before...their track record hasnt been gold. It seems fanboys are content with marvel just because they put their favorite characters on screen, damn the fact that even the successful franchises either have a mediocre to bad third film, or end up pissing fanboys off the first try...sometimes twice after lying and saying things will be better (I'm looking at you, Fantastic Four Franchise).

After the month of fanboy slobbering over Iron Man and marvel studios, i laughed myself silly reading the news that marvel's refusing to up jon favereau's pay, claiming it IM2 could do well without him...didnt the same thing happen with X3? you know you have a problem when you're setting dates and you 1. Are too cheap to bring successful directors back and 2. Having said directors say in public that they're worried about sequels being rushed, especially when they havent even been talked to about said sequel in five weeks.

All that show me is that, at the end of the day, whether or not WB puts out a ton of comic movies, Marvel Studios are just as money hungry and prone to stupid decisions as...well...90% of hollywood.

[dnno1]

Originally Posted by cerealkiller182

I hear DC should learn from Marvel but what has Marvel done:

Blade,Spiderman, and Xmen series- Really great start but petered out in part 3

Punisher, Hulk, and Daredevil- tried hard but ultimately failed and in 2/3 went in new direction

Fantastic Four and Ghost Rider- Laughable movies which seemed that Marvel just settled.

Iron Man and maybe the Incredible Hulk- Shows promise in "under new management" premise.

The thing that DC hasnt done has been to settle (except with Vertigo titles for some reason). Their projects have gone in and out of production as just as long as Marvel has been making movies. Lately they have been getting more steam than ever though.

If you go back 30 years ago, DC/WB was experiencing success with their properties on the big screen while Marvel couldn't get a project on film. This is yin and yang and the worm will turn back to the WB side in time.

[RonStoppablefan]

Originally Posted by TheComicbookKid

Nope DC was actually several different companies that combined in the 30s. WB bought the company in the 60s or 70s.

Here's the only strategy DC needs.

RELEASE A MOVIE THAT ISN'T SUPERMAN OR BATMAN.

Seriously, I mean they can't keep pushing Batman and Superman on us. I am a huge Batman fan but people will get tired of them.

[REDophile]

Originally Posted by TheComicbookKid

RELEASE A MOVIE THAT ISN'T SUPERMAN OR BATMAN.

OR A GRAPHIC NOVEL.

[Evil Twin]

I'm very tired of this DC vs. Marvel thing. It makes little sense when its about comic books and it makes less sense when its about movies.

You know who else has had successful adaptations? Dark Horse with Sin City, 300, and 2 Hellboy movies. How come they never get any credit? Arguably they've had a better track record for quality lately than Marvel or DC on film.

[Midnite]

Originally Posted by The Batman

After the month of fanboy slobbering over Iron Man and marvel studios, i laughed myself silly reading the news that marvel's refusing to up jon favereau's pay, claiming it IM2 could do well without him...didnt the same thing happen with X3?

Is there a link to this news?

[The Batman]

Originally Posted by Midnite

Is there a link to this news?

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option...5052&Itemid=99

[Sawyer]

Oh, Marvel...what a douchey move.

[REDophile]

Originally Posted by Evil Twin

You know who else has had successful adaptations? Dark Horse with Sin City, 300, and 2 Hellboy movies. How come they never get any credit? Arguably they've had a better track record for quality lately than Marvel or DC on film.

Dark Horse is different because their material is NOT about spandex superheroes.
Watchmen might be good, but its no substitute for say, the Flash. A real superhero movie is about a crime-fighter with a spandex costume, secret identity, super villain, all the iconography.

[chiefchirpa]

Give GL to Jon Favreau. Greg Berlanti as a writer/producer only.

[Octoberist]

I still think that Berlanti's script will determine if Warner Bros. really wants him to be the director or not. and it's fitting, since the first draft is due soon (before Comic Con)

[The Major]

Originally Posted by Octoberist

I still think that Berlanti's script will determine if Warner Bros. really wants him to be the director or not. and it's fitting, since the first draft is due soon (before Comic Con)

That sounds right.

What concerns me is no matter how good the script is will mean nothing if the person directing it can't make it work on screen. With Berlanti using this as his first time directing is not encouraging. GL isn't a movie property your average rookie director could pull off.

[Octoberist]

Yeah, i think Warner Bros right now, are taking this seriously without letting it known public. I think they ARE studying Marvel right now. We just don't know it.

Well, I hope that I'm right.

[The Major]

Originally Posted by Octoberist

Yeah, i think Warner Bros right now, are taking this seriously without letting it known public. I think they ARE studying Marvel right now. We just don't know it.

Well, I hope that I'm right.

I hope you are right, too.

[Octoberist]

it makes sense because Warner Bros hired Berlanti for Green Lantern and David Dobkin for The Flash last year, when directors like Tim Story, Brett Ratner and Mark Steven Johnson were making comic book movies.


In other words, and I hate to say it, Warners didn't take it serious, even after batman begins. and singer's superman returns's lack of success didn't help them out either. You can tell that they're scrambling and they don't have their head on straight.

Now things are different.

WB/DC responded to Marvel with Batman Begins 3 years ago, and Marvel answered back with Jon Fav. Warner Bros need LEGIT film makers to handle these DC properties with care and admiration that Jon did with Iron Man. I can't speak for the new Hulk yet, so I'm still waiting on that.

By the end of the summer, we should hear something. Marvel is not invisbile. I mean, look at the rumors of the 'drama' with Incredible Hulk's final cut, and Jon's role with Iron Man 2.

[REDophile]

The Flash is thought of as a lighter character that encourages more of a sense of humor, which is probably why WB is looking to comedy directors. That's not to say its gonna be a straight comedy, Dobkin is said to be planning on taking a serious approach. But hopefully he's not thinking of Vince Vaughn as Wally.

On the other hand, GL is a space/action/sci-fi epic franchise, so Berlanti seems like an odd choice. But he's apparently a comic book expert, so you never know.

By the time TDK hits theaters in July, we better hear more from WB about Flash, Shazam or GL.

[Octoberist]

i guess i would like to have a director who is solid and experience in comedy. Like Peter Berg. But i think he's strung out with HANCOCK.

If i had to, I would love to pick Jon Fav. Of course, that would be impossible.

[jmc]

Originally Posted by REDophile

By the time TDK hits theaters in July, we better hear more from WB about Flash, Shazam or GL.

I wouldn't hold my breathe.