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Old 06-22-2008, 10:54 AM   #1
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What do you guys think about this flick?

The past 13 years I've seen this movie enough to now say it is one of my favorites of all time.

As far as performances De Niro was fantastic playing the "punk" essentially. This was a point in his career where he was being typecast as mr. big balls so it was good to see him play a straight and vulnerable dude. Pesci was very memorable but too similar to previous roles to really say anything new about. Sharon Stone well this is easily the greatest performance in her entire career. I would've never thought she was capable of being that great of an actress otherwise if it wasn't for what Scorsese got out of her. James Woods was fantastic too makes me laugh all the time.

I personally have grown to love the film over the years as I got older. I used to think it was overrated when it was first released cause I was a huge Raging Bull and Goodfellas fan and didn't really find it as mind blowing but now I understand why it was praised. It's more than just a story about criminals running a Casino. It's about the negative aspects of humanity and how that affects a person's decisions above everything else.

Whether it's a materialistic woman selling herself to a man she feels no empathy for just because he could fulfill her material desires no matter how unhappy being with this person could make her. To the same woman sticking by a man who treats her like dirt just because he always found a way to tell her the things she wants to hear and because she feels a sense of loyalty to him since he's been her twisted father figure for years.

To a firecracker of a man who cannot live his life by following authoritarian rules no matter who may have made up those rules. A man who is so wreckless and careless that he only thinks in the moment and doesn't think about the future consequences that his actions may cause. A man who is so self assured and self centered that he had no problem giving in to the temptation of banging his friend of 3 decades' wife even though he knew if it was discovered that will mean his life.

What about the meticulous fellow. The man who is always observing things and using logic to achieve solutions. A man who is such a perfectionist as a professional yet is a complete mess as a real person because he never took anytime in his life to build up any real personal character. He's naive in thinking he could change a grown woman but he's so used to always getting what he wants and being in control that it completely blinds him. It causes him to make decisions that lead to his fall when he would've forseen that coming otherwise had the situation not been love which is something he just wasn't familiar with.

Bascially we all know a man like Nicky who always feels untouchable or a woman like Ginger who uses the most shallow means of achieving self gratification to give her self a false sense of comfort and accomplishment. We all met a man like Ace a man that has the answer to every problem except those that personally plague him. That's why to me it's a work of art because above everything else it's an exploration of man's instinctive behavior and how that could lead to their downfall.

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Old 06-22-2008, 12:52 PM   #2
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I really like Casino myself I watched it for a second time recently and I thought it was better on second viewing. Great acting from De Niro and Joe Pesci and another great film from Martin Scorsese.

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Old 06-22-2008, 09:22 PM   #3
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Its one of my favorites

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Old 06-23-2008, 03:50 AM   #4
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It is brilliant, but it does fall under Goodfellas shadow, mostly like you said due to Pesci's character (who is hilarious BTW). Its a shame the current generation is nowhere close to the class and craft of that one.

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Old 06-29-2008, 05:22 PM   #5
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It is brilliant, but it does fall under Goodfellas shadow, mostly like you said due to Pesci's character (who is hilarious BTW). Its a shame the current generation is nowhere close to the class and craft of that one.
Yeah I just finished watching this with a friend earlier today and he said he still can't tell the difference between Tommy and Nicky. I explained that the roles are similar but there are certain differences Nicky is more mature and contained than Tommy was. Still a hot head but not neccessarily a wreckless one he seems to do things for the sake of enjoying anarchy he doesn't give a damn but he's always very conscious of his actions. Tommy seems to go into blind rages and reacts because of his raw emotions doing many things carelessly and without thinking them through. Oh and Scorsese's use of established music is always second to none I'm more into original scores myself but Scorsese is one of the few I could except licensed music from cause he really knows how to use it.

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Old 06-29-2008, 05:27 PM   #6
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I love this movie, and that's weird why it wasn't nominated for the Best Picture by academy

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Old 06-30-2008, 01:08 AM   #7
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Casino is a fantastic film, but it pales in comparison to Goodfellas and The Departed. Still, it's one of my favorites.

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Old 06-30-2008, 09:13 AM   #8
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Casino is a fantastic film, but it pales in comparison to Goodfellas and The Departed. Still, it's one of my favorites.
Pales? Hardly. I agree with the statement about Departed and Goodfellas being better. But pales is quite the wrong phrase to use in this case I think. Ofcourse, it has some little problems. The first hour or so is phenomenal; the pacing, the voice-overs the energy and later on it slows quite a bit.
But there's still the gorgeous cinematography, the fantastic use of music and the acting. It was IMO DeNiro's last awesome performance. After that, he was quite okay in some flicks. But the true brilliance seems to have vanished. It was the last ''True'' DeNiro part. He was cut out for work like this.

Pesci radiates menace and just plain evil. Santoro, as some other poster said, is a lot more mature than Tommy, so you don't get the idea that he can **** up and be taken down easily. He is in a way, more calculating than Tommy and that gives his character the edge.

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Old 06-30-2008, 09:34 PM   #9
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I acutally much prefer this to The Departed hell I prefer the Infernal Affairs trilogy to The Departed. Not that I thought it was a bad movie it was far from it but in my eyes it's not up there with this joint and my other top Scorsese favorites like Goodfellas and my all time favorite Raging Bull. I even prefer King of Comedy, Taxi Driver, After Hours, Last Temptation of Christ and the Cape Fear remake to The Departed.

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What do you guys think about this flick?

The past 13 years I've seen this movie enough to now say it is one of my favorites of all time.

As far as performances De Niro was fantastic playing the "punk" essentially. This was a point in his career where he was being typecast as mr. big balls so it was good to see him play a straight and vulnerable dude. Pesci was very memorable but too similar to previous roles to really say anything new about. Sharon Stone well this is easily the greatest performance in her entire career. I would've never thought she was capable of being that great of an actress otherwise if it wasn't for what Scorsese got out of her. James Woods was fantastic too makes me laugh all the time.

I personally have grown to love the film over the years as I got older. I used to think it was overrated when it was first released cause I was a huge Raging Bull and Goodfellas fan and didn't really find it as mind blowing but now I understand why it was praised. It's more than just a story about criminals running a Casino. It's about the negative aspects of humanity and how that affects a person's decisions above everything else.

Whether it's a materialistic woman selling herself to a man she feels no empathy for just because he could fulfill her material desires no matter how unhappy being with this person could make her. To the same woman sticking by a man who treats her like dirt just because he always found a way to tell her the things she wants to hear and because she feels a sense of loyalty to him since he's been her twisted father figure for years.

To a firecracker of a man who cannot live his life by following authoritarian rules no matter who may have made up those rules. A man who is so wreckless and careless that he only thinks in the moment and doesn't think about the future consequences that his actions may cause. A man who is so self assured and self centered that he had no problem giving in to the temptation of banging his friend of 3 decades' wife even though he knew if it was discovered that will mean his life.

What about the meticulous fellow. The man who is always observing things and using logic to achieve solutions. A man who is such a perfectionist as a professional yet is a complete mess as a real person because he never took anytime in his life to build up any real personal character. He's naive in thinking he could change a grown woman but he's so used to always getting what he wants and being in control that it completely blinds him. It causes him to make decisions that lead to his fall when he would've forseen that coming otherwise had the situation not been love which is something he just wasn't familiar with.

Bascially we all know a man like Nicky who always feels untouchable or a woman like Ginger who uses the most shallow means of achieving self gratification to give her self a false sense of comfort and accomplishment. We all met a man like Ace a man that has the answer to every problem except those that personally plague him. That's why to me it's a work of art because above everything else it's an exploration of man's instinctive behavior and how that could lead to their downfall.
So someone who has always overlooked Casino in favor of Goodfellas, I will say this writeup has got me itching to take another look.

(although I love the Departed and rank it higher than this and Goodfellas)

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Old 07-06-2008, 12:23 PM   #11
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Anybody knows if it's on blu-ray yet? I want to marvel at the great cinematography in high def.

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Old 07-06-2008, 02:52 PM   #12
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Ive always been a huge fan of this and Goodfellas and i think i to rate Goodfellas higher but its still fn brilliant

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Old 05-28-2009, 01:08 PM   #13
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In light of me finally getting this on blu-ray

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Old 05-28-2009, 02:39 PM   #14
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It's a fine looking Blu-Ray for a fantastic movie. The Ernie and Burt spoof on youtube is brilliant too

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