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Old 08-06-2009, 06:06 PM   #251
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He's not though. Pym is the world LEADER in robotics. You can't be the top guy if somebody's as good or better than you in your field

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Old 08-06-2009, 06:20 PM   #252
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He's not though. Pym is the world LEADER in robotics. You can't be the top guy if somebody's as good or better than you in your field
I agree

and a quick look at the thread makes me think most people think it has to either be a superhero or a cameo for Pym. I think just Hank Pym, SHIELD scientist, could have a satisfactory amount of screentime to be more than a cameo but not necessarily crowd the screen with superheroes

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Old 08-06-2009, 09:43 PM   #253
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I don't care how big a role but I want:

Captain America
Iron Man
Hulk
Hawkeye
Nick Fury
Black Widow
Wasp
Ant-Man
Thor
Mr. Fantastic
Human Torch
Invisible Woman
The Thing
Spider-Man
Daredevil
Wolverine
Storm
Gambit

in the movie.

That would make one helluva film.

Think of all these names on a poster

Scarlett Johanson
Samuel Jackson
Edward Norton
Robert Downey Jr.
Tobey Macguire
Chris Evans
Jessica Alba
Michael Chicklis
Hugh Jackman
Halle Berry

yeah rockin

if a cast like that was done for sin city why not.

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Old 08-06-2009, 09:47 PM   #254
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^That movie would pretty much be Ocean's 14 haha. And the budget would be astronomical.

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Old 08-06-2009, 09:56 PM   #255
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He's not though. Pym is the world LEADER in robotics. You can't be the top guy if somebody's as good or better than you in your field
Not if he doesn't exist in this universe in the first place!

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Old 08-06-2009, 09:58 PM   #256
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My dream cast would be this:

ESTABLISHED CHARACTERS (Main characters):

Captain America
Iron Man
Thor
Black Widow
Nick Fury - Though I don't see him actually doing any battling until the very end.

NEW CHARACTERS (Supporting):

Hank Pym - He works for S.H.I.E.L.D. as one of their tops minds, and is responsible for coming up with a lot of their tech. If they include the Helicarrier (which I only want if it's done well), then he designed it.
Janet Van Dyne - Another S.H.I.E.L.D scientist, and Pym's fiancée
Clint Barton - Top marksman within S.H.I.E.L.D

ESTABLISHED SUPPORTING PLAYERS:

James Rhodes
Thunderbolt Ross
Betty Ross
Pepper Potts

As for the Hulk: Make him initially an enemy for the Avengers but in the end he ends up helping them, but (possibly) doesn't end up joining and gets away.


Just a few real quick ideas.


(Note on Pym: If they include him I'd rather not see Giant-Man or Ant-Man. If anything, include Yellowjacket. Maybe he and Janet are working on a 'less-lethal' weapon to bring down Hulk, which is what their stings are derived from?)

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Old 08-06-2009, 10:00 PM   #257
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^That movie would pretty much be Ocean's 14 haha. And the budget would be astronomical.
It would be worth it

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Old 08-07-2009, 09:13 AM   #258
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He's not though. Pym is the world LEADER in robotics. You can't be the top guy if somebody's as good or better than you in your field
U know how pym became a world leader in robotics marvel decided he was they made it up. So u know how stark could be it They could just say so. They do whatever the hell they want. U never understand arguments Like these it's like when people discuss who would win hulk or Thor. The answer is whoever the writer wants they are making this **** up as they go

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Old 08-07-2009, 02:21 PM   #259
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If they're not going to use Hank & Janet as Antman/Giant Man & Wasp in the first movie, they should have War Machine in it & not as a cameo.

I don't think Fury will do any fighting until the end anyway.

Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, War Machine & maybe Hulk. Good enough for me, I guess.

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Old 08-07-2009, 02:24 PM   #260
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U know how pym became a world leader in robotics marvel decided he was they made it up. So u know how stark could be it They could just say so. They do whatever the hell they want. U never understand arguments Like these it's like when people discuss who would win hulk or Thor. The answer is whoever the writer wants they are making this **** up as they go
This is a little different than "who would win in a fight". If he's the leader, he's the leader.

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Old 08-07-2009, 02:46 PM   #261
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Maybe I'm alone in this, but I would rather Pym display no powers than be Giant Man.

For this reason: You've already got Captain America, who by normal human standards is super strong. Then you've got Iron Man, who with his armor is super strong. Then you've got Hulk and Thor, who by anyone's standards are super strong. So really, what purpose would Giant Man really serve other than being a BIG target?

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Old 08-07-2009, 03:21 PM   #262
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If they're not going to use Hank & Janet as Antman/Giant Man & Wasp in the first movie, they should have War Machine in it & not as a cameo.

I don't think Fury will do any fighting until the end anyway.

Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, War Machine & maybe Hulk. Good enough for me, I guess.
War Machine would be a complete duplicate of Iron Man, and would serve no purpose. And they'd be going way too heavy on IM generated characters if they had Tony, Rhodey and The Black Widow (who's coming from Iron Man whether we like it or not, now, courtesy of the film).

Give me Clint Barton. He balances out the attitudes of the team so well... and you NEED to have one "corporate" (I guess you could say) hero on the team... that meaning a hero that wasn't a solo act, and can bring SHIELD's ideals to the table (I severely doubt they'll have Nick Fury do much fighting, he's more of the mastermind/guiding hand).

An Ultimate Hawkeye adaptation would be perfect for that.

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Old 08-07-2009, 05:21 PM   #263
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This is a little different than "who would win in a fight". If he's the leader, he's the leader.
Says who? though if they say tomorrow its Stark then its Stark. Also is there a world leader in robotics? I would think that it would be more of a fluid back and forth between different scientists and companys. Like Pym creates something one day that is the new standard and Tony creates something better in a few months or a year thats how technology usually works. Regardless the best scientist at robotics gets decided by one line in the movie by saying hey blank is the top robotics guy in the world

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Old 08-07-2009, 05:24 PM   #264
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Says Marvel. It can change eventually, but, right now, Pym is better than Stark in robotics and that's that.

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Old 08-07-2009, 05:31 PM   #265
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Yeah, Stark is no doubt the best at building suits of armor and other types of engineering. Pym is the best at robotics and artificial intelligence.

Reed is obviously excluded b/c he's the best at everything

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Old 08-07-2009, 10:41 PM   #266
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Says Marvel. It can change eventually, but, right now, Pym is better than Stark in robotics and that's that.
But in the movie-verse the Pyms don't exist, and thus history can be re-written.

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Mainstream audiences would have no freaking clue who Hank or Jan Pym was.
They would after the film introduced them. That's how it works, you see.

Remember when movies didn't have to rely on being based on existing properties to be succesful? "Man, this Star Wars movie is gonna fail, no one's ever heard of Luke Skywalker!"

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They would after the film introduced them. That's how it works, you see.

Remember when movies didn't have to rely on being based on existing properties to be succesful? "Man, this Star Wars movie is gonna fail, no one's ever heard of Luke Skywalker!"
I think that's the best logic I've ever heard on this board. That literally shuts down any argument against bringing a character in based on how well people already know the character. Not many people knew who Blade was, but that film turned out to be a success

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HOw many people do should be in the roster?
I actually want alot. Like around 7

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But in the movie-verse the Pyms don't exist, and thus history can be re-written.
You don't know that.

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Yeah, I'd like to think that just b/c we haven't seen somebody in the movie-verse; that they still exist

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Ok, Reed AND Doom are excluded

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Way cooler than when Batman does it

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