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Gwen Stacy (The Amazing Spider-Man 2) 16 57.14%
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Old 09-04-2014, 05:22 PM   #1
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I am a fan of Raimi's trilogy. I am a much bigger fan of the Raimi films than the Webb films mainly because of the characters. One of my favourite characters in the Raimi film series is Harry Osborn and when he died, I was devestated.

However, in Webb's TASM2, when Gwen Stacy died, I couldn't help but compare the two death scenes and think about which one I prefered.

Gwen Stacy (The Amazing Spider-Man 2) VS Harry Osborn (Spider-Man 3)

Personally, I prefer Harry's death for many reasons. One of which, Harry died a hero as opposed to his alto-ego - the New Goblin. I also just love that not only did he die a hero, but he also died saving someone who he had only recently had a grudge with. This, to me, sums up Harry Osborn and in addition to that, James Franco!

What do you guys think?

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Old 09-04-2014, 05:40 PM   #2
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They completely botched Gwen's death in ASM 2. It should have been the most epic moment in CBM history but instead it was forced, cheap, anti-climatic trash.

Harry's death on the other hand was done perfect.

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Old 09-04-2014, 06:39 PM   #3
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Gwen's death without doubt, much more impact than Harry's death which was very good too.

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Honestly, I just can't decide. It's also hard to take out my bias for Emma Stone; but I'll try.

Harry had the benefit of developing a relationship with Peter for three entire films. He had ups and downs with Peter for a longer time, for varying reasons (the death of his father, Peter's feelings for MJ, finding out Peter is Spider-Man). You have to give credit to Raimi in that respect, because as an audience, Harry became our enemy but we ultimately feel sympathetic towards him at the end.

Gwen and Peter had lesser screen time in TASM1-2 compared to Harry and Peter in SM1-3. We saw ups and downs, but we probably could've seen a lot more if Harry's character wasn't rushed. Sometimes I even think they could've replaced Electro's screen time with an MJ arc; that could've provided an opportunity for Harry, Gwen, MJ, and Peter to be together at the same time. Regardless, however, Gwen and Peter's relationship was executed perfectly by Emma and Andrew, and it was the first time in a long time that I had a couple of tears in my eyes.

I may need to think it over some more, as I said I can't decide. But that's some of my analysis for now.

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Are we basing it off the emotion of the scene or what lead up to the scene?

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What death scene was better in your opinion.

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Old 09-05-2014, 02:07 AM   #7
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I think both where really good. Harry because I wasn't expecting that at all and was surprised and because I like that he came back to the good side with peter. Gwen I thought was great because of the chemistry with her and peter and it was very intise. I have never felt so sad has I did when she died and the goblin fight was great so slight edge to gweens death.

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What death scene was better in your opinion.
Gwen's, clearly.

Holy wow, sent chills down my spine. I know it's pretty controversial, but I think that scene's gold class. Good acting, I liked the slo-mo, we knew she was going to die, so it was more effective than just bang, it wasn't the death, but what it meant, that was important, and giving it more time is what made that more effective. That "hand" thing was fine, it conveyed its message.

Andrew Garfield's acting is what pushed it from good to amazing for me, heartwrenching, next level stuff. Damn. The way he got himself to just embody greif was amazing.

Toby just never did that for me. Great series, great end to the Peter-Harry Relationship, great story leading up to it, but Toby didn't elevate the scene for me.

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Gwen's, clearly.

Holy wow, sent chills down my spine. I know it's pretty controversial, but I think that scene's gold class. Good acting, I liked the slo-mo, we knew she was going to die, so it was more effective than just bang, it wasn't the death, but what it meant, that was important, and giving it more time is what made that more effective. That "hand" thing was fine, it conveyed its message.

Andrew Garfield's acting is what pushed it from good to amazing for me, heartwrenching, next level stuff. Damn. The way he got himself to just embody greif was amazing.

Toby just never did that for me. Great series, great end to the Peter-Harry Relationship, great story leading up to it, but Toby didn't elevate the scene for me.

That's my reasoning.
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If Tobey showed as much emotion as Andrew did and really got into that moment, as an actor, then it would come off really well and heartbreaking but didn't unfortunately. Still a sad moment nevertheless.

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They completely botched Gwen's death in ASM 2. It should have been the most epic moment in CBM history but instead it was forced, cheap, anti-climatic trash.

Harry's death on the other hand was done perfect.

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^^ This.

No amount of good acting, and Garfield's crying didn't turn trash into gold, make the botching of Gwen's death better.

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The best thing about Gwen's death in the comics is that it was surprising... the movie made it so painstakingly obvious she would die, that it lacked the same emotional punch.

While I like the movie version of Gwen's death, I prefer Harry's in SM3... because it was surprising.

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I think slo-motion deaths can be done effectively.

Death in film doesn't have to be fast or suprising to be effective. Espcially if it works with the themes of the film, scene, blah.

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Gwen's death wasn't effective. It was slow, predictable, dragged out and the web hand was so silly lol.

Harry's beats it easily for acting, emotion, execution and impact.

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Acting...

Rightio

I'm not saying you're biased towards one franchise or something, but that surprised me immensely.

What was so amazing about Toby's performance that made it stand out? I ain't seeing it. He looks like he's reacting to his sports team losing, not someone dying.

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Tobey's was more heartfelt and emotional. It definitely felt like someone dying. It was also complimented by Franco's acting. It felt like two best buddies saying goodbye to each other forever.

Garfield's was just a lot of 'No no no, Gwen, no no no' and crying. Not bad acting, just nothing special. I think some TASM fans over hype it to make up for the short comings of the scene.

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Which death had the wittle spider web hand?

Right.

Harry's was way better and built for three films. Gwen's was rushed and also part of the ruined Goblin arc that no one cared about.

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Definitely Harry Osborn's death. It came right after another emotional scene too, so it really had a great impact on me.

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I didn't piss myself with laughter at Harry's death scene.

So, yeah. He wins.

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Also, Harry died a hero.

Gwen died by being an idiot.

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Actually, she died because Harry Osborn took her to the tower, and his fight with Spidey stopped him from being able to save her.

And don't give me the "she put herself in danger by being at the power plant" crap, because neither her or Peter knew Harry would go there. By that logic, Gwen died because the Parker household's water heater broke.

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In the comics she died and had no idea who Peter was or anything. She was an innocent victim.
In this series Peter carelessly gave his secret up and then both went against George's dying wish and decided with great power comes great porking. She went into the power plant, when Peter told her not to, claiming she was the only genius who could reset it even though you literally just need to hit the big red "master reset" button. Superb writing.
She died because both of them were stupid and irresponsible. Peter in this movie series is a cocky, obnoxious little ***hole and I feel no sympathy for him or his stupid wannabe hero girlfriend. She should have been murdered doing nothing, knowing nothing, and completely out of cold blood by NORMAN just to get to Peter.

Stupidass Harry "...PEEETERRR. So when Spider-Man said nooo...you meant you said nooo" with his ugly meth mouth.

I have never seen so much ass in one movie lol it was like they were writing it as a joke. How can they expect us to take a death seriously with Butthead as the final "villain?"

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In the comics she died and had no idea who Peter was or anything. She was an innocent victim.
In this series Peter carelessly gave his secret up and then both went against George's dying wish and decided with great power comes great porking. She went into the power plant, when Peter told her not to, claiming she was the only genius who could reset it even though you literally just need to hit the big red "master reset" button. Superb writing.
She died because both of them were stupid and irresponsible. Peter in this movie series is a cocky, obnoxious little ***hole and I feel no sympathy for him or his stupid wannabe hero girlfriend. She should have been murdered doing nothing, knowing nothing, and completely out of cold blood by NORMAN just to get to Peter.

Stupidass Harry "...PEEETERRR. So when Spider-Man said nooo...you meant you said nooo" with his ugly meth mouth.

I have never seen so much ass in one movie lol it was like they were writing it as a joke. How can they expect us to take a death seriously with Butthead as the final "villain?"
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Gwen's, clearly.

Holy wow, sent chills down my spine. I know it's pretty controversial, but I think that scene's gold class. Good acting, I liked the slo-mo, we knew she was going to die, so it was more effective than just bang, it wasn't the death, but what it meant, that was important, and giving it more time is what made that more effective. That "hand" thing was fine, it conveyed its message.

Andrew Garfield's acting is what pushed it from good to amazing for me, heartwrenching, next level stuff. Damn. The way he got himself to just embody greif was amazing.

Toby just never did that for me. Great series, great end to the Peter-Harry Relationship, great story leading up to it, but Toby didn't elevate the scene for me.

That's my reasoning.
There's no doubt Andrew acted much better In the death's scenes he was given while Toby managed to break the moment.

Agreed with everything you said bud

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