Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't

09-05-2008, 02:55 PM

At the end of TDK, both Harvey and Batman fall from the warehouse building. It has been confirmed by reputable online sources that Harvey doesn't survive the fall, yet Batman does. Did Batman survive the fall because of sheer luck, his armored suit, or something else?

JaD · 09-05-2008, 02:56 PM

Harvey was tackled and fell, probably awkwardly (breaking his neck in the process). Batman hung to the ledge, then fell on his back.

Secret_Riddle · 09-05-2008, 02:57 PM

Batman has many pounds of bullet proof armour on.

Obviously that would soften the impact quite a bit.

Dent has no armour, and has many third degree burns and an obvious reduction in his bodies capability to absorb and deal with damage. I'm sure his immune system alone was garbage after an untreated accident like that.

As the above poster stated, the angle of impact also probably contributed to Dent's death.

Zacky · 09-05-2008, 02:59 PM

He also had Armour on.

09-05-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Secret_Riddle

Batman has many pounds of bullet proof armour on.

Wouldn't landing on the ground with hard armor in between be more painful than without it?

09-05-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Zacky

He also had Armour on.

I thought the armor would increase his weight and therefore make the landing more painful.

Saint · 09-05-2008, 03:03 PM

It's obvious: Dent just landed awkwardly--probably on his head. How you land can be the deciding factor in a fall.

The Jester · 09-05-2008, 03:06 PM

well, remember batman aslo fell off a penthouse ledge while trying to catch a woman than landing on the hood of a car.

so he's used to it ;D

Mollins · 09-05-2008, 03:06 PM

Dent landed on his neck, snapping it

Anita18 · 09-05-2008, 03:07 PM

All of the above?

ronny · 09-05-2008, 03:14 PM

Dent was being held up by sheer force of will alone. Half his face was gone, he wasn't taking medication, bits of flesh were flaking off, he was in a car crash, he was rushing around going on a city wide killing spree. The fall was just the crescendo of a whole lot of problems Dent was having.

Jonathan Crane · 09-05-2008, 03:22 PM

Who ****ing cares?!

It's just the movie, Jesus...

ronny · 09-05-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Crane

Who ****ing cares?!

It's just the movie, Jesus...

I don't know, I find it interesting to discuss this stuff and see other peoples opinions on the matter. With a film as good as The Dark Knight there's a lot of room to chat about various little observations.

Infinity9999x · 09-05-2008, 03:26 PM

Lots of factors.

One, Batman tackled Harvey, in effect basically throwing him to the ground. That, combined with the fact that Harvey probably landed awkwardly, killed him.

Batman on the other hand, fell about 6 feet less then Harvey did, because he was hanging from the ledge, his momentum was softened a bit by hitting the boards on the way down, he has armor on, and he wasn't thrown off the ledge like Harvey was.

Anita18 · 09-05-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ronny

I don't know, I find it interesting to discuss this stuff and see other peoples opinions on the matter. With a film as good as The Dark Knight there's a lot of room to chat about various little observations.

I'd rather be discussing stuff like political implications, but Mister J just makes fun of me for trying.

Mister J · 09-05-2008, 03:32 PM

I make fun of everyone. It's what I do.

ronny · 09-05-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Anita18

I'd rather be discussing stuff like political implications, but Mister J just makes fun of me for trying.

The problem with the political debate is that people always make comparisons between Batman and Bush. If we're assigning characters to real persons then people must put much more thought into it all.

Anita18 · 09-05-2008, 03:37 PM

Actually, I'm much more fascinated by the theme of manipulation in TDK than any political stuff (because people are always gonna go for the obvious), but manipulation is way more abstract.

Drizzle · 09-05-2008, 03:53 PM

I think it's a combination of Batman's armor saving him and Dent landing on his spine/blunt trauma force.

ronny · 09-05-2008, 04:04 PM

And you really don't think that Dent's pre-existing physical state had anything to do with it?

deathfromabove · 09-05-2008, 04:16 PM

symbolism anyone?

both harvey and bruce were pushed to their limits. the joker had led both men to the breaking point. they both lost the love of their life. both had endured more than most men could handle. harvey couldnt bear it and he fell from grace. bruce is the goddamned batman and he endured. that is why he survived the fall and harvey did not.

Kud-Dukan · 09-05-2008, 04:45 PM

Batman survived because he needed to learn to pick himself up...

Seriously though, the armor must have provided some protection, but he survived because he is Batman.

the_tortel · 09-05-2008, 05:21 PM

I think that there was less speed to batty's fall, that helped too

dent was pushed, so probably fell back, and maybe on his neck

Schlosser85 · 09-05-2008, 05:36 PM

I just figured the explanation was that Batman has body armor on, while Two-Face was only wearing a suit.

Axtech · 09-05-2008, 06:53 PM

It's entirely possible for two falls from the same height to result in different injuries. Dent could have landed on his head, snapping his neck, while Bats landed on his back. Not to mention the fact that Harvey was shoved off, clearing the beams that Bats smashed through, slowing his fall. Oh, and of course there's the fact that Batman was wearing a full suit of armor, including a helmet.

I guess my answer is all of the above. I really don't understand why people have trouble grasping the fact that one died and one survived...

View Poll Results: How did Batman survive the fall, while Dent didn't?
Batman's armored suit protected him	52	60.47%
When Batman jumped at Harvey, he threw him directly to the floor	8	9.30%
Batman landed on the ground straight on his back, while Dent probably broke his spine	14	16.28%
Luck	12	13.95%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

09-05-2008, 02:55 PM	#1
Bat101 Guest Posts: n/a	Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't At the end of TDK, both Harvey and Batman fall from the warehouse building. It has been confirmed by reputable online sources that Harvey doesn't survive the fall, yet Batman does. Did Batman survive the fall because of sheer luck, his armored suit, or something else?

09-05-2008, 02:56 PM	#2
JaD Thanks Sam! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,075	Re: Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't Harvey was tackled and fell, probably awkwardly (breaking his neck in the process). Batman hung to the ledge, then fell on his back. __________________ The Dark Knight (2008): for Matilda Part II Still miss ya Heath... Thanks Sam, Tobey, & co. for your unforgettable work *PSN: JaDversary* Michael Jackson, The King of Pop and the reason I learned to ever love anything about music. Rest In Peace

09-05-2008, 02:57 PM	#3
Secret_Riddle Agent of Chaos Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada. Posts: 3,398	Re: Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't Batman has many pounds of bullet proof armour on. Obviously that would soften the impact quite a bit. Dent has no armour, and has many third degree burns and an obvious reduction in his bodies capability to absorb and deal with damage. I'm sure his immune system alone was garbage after an untreated accident like that. As the above poster stated, the angle of impact also probably contributed to Dent's death. __________________ I'm a million different people from one day to the next.

09-05-2008, 03:06 PM	#8
The Jester Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 862	Re: Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't well, remember batman aslo fell off a penthouse ledge while trying to catch a woman than landing on the hood of a car. so he's used to it ;D

09-05-2008, 03:06 PM	#9
Mollins Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Leeds Posts: 260	Re: Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't Dent landed on his neck, snapping it

09-05-2008, 03:07 PM	#10
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09-05-2008, 03:14 PM	#11
ronny Banned User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,340	Re: Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't Dent was being held up by sheer force of will alone. Half his face was gone, he wasn't taking medication, bits of flesh were flaking off, he was in a car crash, he was rushing around going on a city wide killing spree. The fall was just the crescendo of a whole lot of problems Dent was having.

09-05-2008, 03:22 PM	#12
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09-05-2008, 03:26 PM	#14
Infinity9999x Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8,345	Re: Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't Lots of factors. One, Batman tackled Harvey, in effect basically throwing him to the ground. That, combined with the fact that Harvey probably landed awkwardly, killed him. Batman on the other hand, fell about 6 feet less then Harvey did, because he was hanging from the ledge, his momentum was softened a bit by hitting the boards on the way down, he has armor on, and he wasn't thrown off the ledge like Harvey was. __________________ my veiws on Raimi's Spider-man Spoiler!!! Click to Read!: here just scoll down X-men Short film: http://vimeo.com/41530049

09-05-2008, 03:32 PM	#16
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09-05-2008, 03:37 PM	#18
Anita18 DANCE FOR ME, FUNNY MAN! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CA Posts: 20,886	Re: Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't Actually, I'm much more fascinated by the theme of manipulation in TDK than any political stuff (because people are always gonna go for the obvious), but manipulation is way more abstract. __________________ To relive the TDK virals (or learn more!) visit http://www.whysoseriousredux.com

09-05-2008, 03:53 PM	#19
Drizzle The "D" is silent. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 8,662	Re: Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't I think it's a combination of Batman's armor saving him and Dent landing on his spine/blunt trauma force. __________________ By what right does the wolf judge the lion? VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

09-05-2008, 04:04 PM	#20
ronny Banned User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,340	Re: Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't And you really don't think that Dent's pre-existing physical state had anything to do with it?

09-05-2008, 04:16 PM	#21
deathfromabove Banned User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: under your bed Posts: 3,818	Re: Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't symbolism anyone? both harvey and bruce were pushed to their limits. the joker had led both men to the breaking point. they both lost the love of their life. both had endured more than most men could handle. harvey couldnt bear it and he fell from grace. bruce is the goddamned batman and he endured. that is why he survived the fall and harvey did not.

09-05-2008, 04:45 PM	#22
Kud-Dukan Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 445	Re: Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't Batman survived because he needed to learn to pick himself up... Seriously though, the armor must have provided some protection, but he survived because he is Batman. __________________

09-05-2008, 05:21 PM	#23
the_tortel R.I.P. Richard Dunn Join Date: May 2007 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 861	Re: Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't I think that there was less speed to batty's fall, that helped too dent was pushed, so probably fell back, and maybe on his neck __________________ Spoiler!!! Click to Read!: Do or Do not. Spoiler!!! Click to Read!: http://nerdnirvana.org/2008/12/10/snl-jizz-in-my-pants/ C A P T A I N The First Avenger A M E R I C A

09-05-2008, 06:53 PM	#25
Axtech Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 752	Re: Batman survives the fall, but Dent doesn't It's entirely possible for two falls from the same height to result in different injuries. Dent could have landed on his head, snapping his neck, while Bats landed on his back. Not to mention the fact that Harvey was shoved off, clearing the beams that Bats smashed through, slowing his fall. Oh, and of course there's the fact that Batman was wearing a full suit of armor, including a helmet. I guess my answer is all of the above. I really don't understand why people have trouble grasping the fact that one died and one survived... __________________ Some men aren't looking for anything logical. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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