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View Poll Results: Do you agree with Don Cheadle taking over for Terrence Howard in Iron Man 2?
I'm all for it, bring on Don Cheadle! 106 38.41%
Recasting sucks. Marvel should have kept Terrence Howard! 134 48.55%
I don't care one way or the other. 36 13.04%
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Old 10-14-2008, 04:47 PM   #251
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As for the rest of the cast, I don't like Paltrow but I really liked her in Iron Man, (which is a surprise to me) she and RDJ had good chemistry IMHO so I want her to stay on board even though I think that she becomes a terrible actress when she has to interact with special effects.
I agree. I don't think Gwyneth is one who asks for a big pay raise, as she's trying to keep projects to a minimum and raise her kid. There was a USA Weekend interview with her where she said she loved doing IM and would love to come back to do a sequel. She did say something about being signed on for two more, I think.

Now while I don't think this is a problem, I did read a Rolling Stone interview with RDJ post-IM, where the author casually puts out that RDJ was discussing with his agent about his new asking price ($12 million) for his next projects before the interview commenced. I don't know if that's true for IM-2 (or Sherlock Holmes), but it looks like he's getting a bigger payoff than Bale or Maguire did for their second superhero films.

I can understand if Howard asked too much for his return, but to be expected to be paid the same amount, that's really cheap of Marvel to do that if that were the case.

Either way, I bet Favreau is furious at Marvel for doing this.

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Old 10-14-2008, 04:53 PM   #252
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Screw, Howard. Letting the success get to his mind.

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I agree. I don't think Gwyneth is one who asks for a big pay raise, as she's trying to keep projects to a minimum and raise her kid. There was a USA Weekend interview with her where she said she loved doing IM and would love to come back to do a sequel. She did say something about being signed on for two more, I think.

Now while I don't think this is a problem, I did read a Rolling Stone interview with RDJ post-IM, where the author casually puts out that RDJ was discussing with his agent about his new asking price ($12 million) for his next projects before the interview commenced. I don't know if that's true for IM-2 (or Sherlock Holmes), but it looks like he's getting a bigger payoff than Bale or Maguire did for their second superhero films.

I can understand if Howard asked too much for his return, but to be expected to be paid the same amount, that's really cheap of Marvel to do that if that were the case.

Either way, I bet Favreau is furious at Marvel for doing this.
Maguire got like 17mil for SM2 though so I don't know.

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Sorry, but I still feel Marvel is getting full of themselves very early in the game. Sue me.
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Not knowing any of the real facts but casting aspersions is NOT being full of yourself? Too bad you really can't sue someone for being flat out stupid.
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You like to attack others for claiming they don't know what they are talking about, but how about you get YOUR facts straight. Paramount presented that car to Favreau, NOT Marvel!

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I wonder what that makes you YJ1...actually, no I don't. I know exactly what that makes you.


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Old 10-14-2008, 04:58 PM   #255
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You guys are all assuming money was the issue, while we really have no official statements from any party involved. The part that worries me the most about this news is that, unless we find out there were EXTREME circumstances, Marvel isn't very concerned about the continuity between their films, actor-wise.

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Old 10-14-2008, 05:01 PM   #256
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Howard is a d-bag. He was from even before IM was put out. If you check for his IM interviews, he's amazingly cocky, already talks about War Machine spin-offs, and says that WM is the character the fans "really want to see."

Are you kidding me? What a tool-and-a-half. I admit he has the better look for Rhodey (compared to Cheadle), but he always acts likes he's half baked anyway.

Why not Dennis Haysbert from 24/The Unit? Why does Hollywood have this crazy youth obsession?

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Old 10-14-2008, 05:05 PM   #257
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Sorry guys this is very interesting news and I do like continuity but it isn't the end of the world. It's not like they are replacing RDJ.

Do I suspect that Marvel is getting a little greedy, a little cocky? Yes I do, but I'm far more worried about the rush to get the film out as soon as possible. Marvel shouldn't have ever set up a such a quick release date that shocked even the director.

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Why not Dennis Haysbert from 24/The Unit? Why does Hollywood have this crazy youth obsession?
Cheadle and RDJ are in their 40's, what youth obsession?

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Old 10-14-2008, 05:05 PM   #258
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I personally didn't get an annoying vibe with Howard. For the most part, I thought he worked, with his greatest asset being what I felt was great chemistry between him and Downey.

Don Cheadle may be a better actor and may end up leaving people with the impression that he should've been cast in the first place, but the fact that this messes with continuity is my biggest problem with it. Recasts just take me out of it.

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Well he was clearly enthusiastic for playing Rhodey. Can't deny that.

And I agree, I like Cheadle but the whole idea of a recast in general just well, sucks. It really does take me out of it.

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Old 10-14-2008, 05:15 PM   #261
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Are you really asking this? C'mon now......
Yeah I am. That's how the movies always treat recasts, so why shouldn't I?

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Old 10-14-2008, 05:18 PM   #262
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someone asked, so..
Terrence Howard, march 11, 1969 (39)
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Old 10-14-2008, 05:18 PM   #263
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Marvel, had to keep its pimp hand strong

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They should've just let Robert do the role of both Tony and Rhodey like he did in Tropic Thunder.

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That's how you make a summer blockbuster!

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Old 10-14-2008, 05:23 PM   #266
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He's no Peter Sellers

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They should've just let Robert do the role of both Tony and Rhodey like he did in Tropic Thunder.
I'm sick of this joke already.

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My 2 cents.......Ok, I was early on a supporter of Michael Jai White for Rhodes since he's a decent actor and is the spitting comic image of Rhodes. That said, I was pleased with Howard and thought he did a decent job with a minimal role. I was looking forward to him having a bigger role in future movies but oh well. I like Don Cheadle so he'll be just as good, IMO. But I just hate recasts because of what it does to the continuity. I'm starting to get worried about IM2 now.

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Either way, I bet Favreau is furious at Marvel for doing this.
Inexperienced movie producers.. I hope they keep learning from this (or start learning)

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Terrible ****ing news.

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A movie recast their actor?


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I'm mixed though optimistic.

In terms of pure acting ability I do believe that Cheadle is more talented than Howard, and I do believe that when making a film you always want the most talent at your disposal, so in that I do consider Cheadle to be an upgrade. (And for the record, I believe Howard is an exceptional actor, though I believe Cheadle is better.)

Now will Cheadle be a better Rhodey, that's yet to be determined. Howard was great as Rhodey and I was looking forward to how the character would evolve in the future, but Cheadle is an exceptionally talented actor, and I believe that he will deliver a great performance.

It's a downer to see Howard go, but Don Cheadle is an exceptional choice.

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A movie recast their actor?

WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!

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Has Heath Ledger taught you guys nothing? Don't judge an actor - especially not one as talented as Don Cheadle - without seeing footage first. I thought Heath's resounding success would put an end to the, "<Insert actor> is not good for <Insert character.>"

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