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Old 11-19-2008, 04:42 PM   #51
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I have not seen this peter sellers thing, but I am not impressed with these guys.

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Old 11-19-2008, 05:14 PM   #52
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With every anouncement I become more and more scared for this film

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Old 11-19-2008, 05:16 PM   #53
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And Cap will be played by.....Vince Vaughn!

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Old 11-19-2008, 05:24 PM   #54
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And Cap will be played by.....Vince Vaughn!
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C. Vince: Yeah, because I was really not looking forward to living out the last half century and everything.

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Old 11-19-2008, 05:24 PM   #55
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The Cap movie should NOT end with him being frozen. It should end with him the victorious hero, with the promise of plenty more WWII adventures to come. The Avengers movie could open with Cap's failed mission/being frozen, or we could be filled in about this via flash backs later. Either way, keep Cap alive and well and in the '40's in his own series; and use the Avengers to bring him into the present!

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Old 11-19-2008, 05:35 PM   #56
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Cap doesnt get frozen in a failed mission he is succesfull but is frozen. He should be frozen doing something selfless that he knows he probably will not survive. Some sort of adapted version of him being on the missle but not that, it would not work live action

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Old 11-19-2008, 05:42 PM   #57
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Okay, I take back the word "failed." My point is that the solo movie should allow for sequels set in WWII, and the Avengers movie should be the one that deals with him being frozen and thawed in the present.

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Old 11-19-2008, 05:52 PM   #58
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I did think it would of been better for the Stark scene to have been after the credits, because it just took away from TIH great ending.

I think what some are suggesting is a good idea, have him be discovered post credits, or the setup to the discovery.

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Old 11-19-2008, 05:54 PM   #59
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The Cap movie should absolutely end in him freezing. That Cap would give his life for his country (etc) is the ultimate sacrifice and the ultimate success. I highly doubt Cap will be getting solo sequels - he'll be the face/focal point of Avengers and any sequels.

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Old 11-19-2008, 06:07 PM   #60
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It should end with Stark coming back in time to see cap.

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Old 11-19-2008, 06:17 PM   #61
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When this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious ****.


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Old 11-19-2008, 06:19 PM   #62
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The Cap movie should absolutely end in him freezing. That Cap would give his life for his country (etc) is the ultimate sacrifice and the ultimate success. I highly doubt Cap will be getting solo sequels - he'll be the face/focal point of Avengers and any sequels.
I think it will be the opposite i really doubt there will be avengers sequels they would have to give everybody new contracts and it will become way to expensive

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Old 11-19-2008, 06:21 PM   #63
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There will be Avengers sequels. I don't doubt that for a second. I don't think they'll bring back Hulk, Iron Man, or Thor for all the reasons you listed. But that's where Cap comes in - he'll maintain a sort of continuity while other actors/characters cycle in.

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Your problem, not a flaw in the material. People were saying this of Iron Man before it came out, and look how that turned out.

The writers do not inspire confidence in me, as I found Prince Caspian to be mediocre. But their work wasn't horrible, either, so I still have hope that this will be something remarkable.

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Old 11-19-2008, 06:25 PM   #65
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While we're talking about Cap being thawed out, I cannot wait to see the following scene (or a variation of) and the one that follows being acted out by Sam Jackson, Robert Downey Jr. and the others!



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Old 11-19-2008, 07:14 PM   #66
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WHY wrap up Cap's WWII adventures at the end of the first movie? Why not keep it open for a possible Invaders movie, etc. I just hope Marvel dose not make the same mistakes Cannon did with their Cap movie...

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Old 11-19-2008, 07:33 PM   #67
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WHY wrap up Cap's WWII adventures at the end of the first movie? Why not keep it open for a possible Invaders movie, etc. I just hope Marvel dose not make the same mistakes Cannon did with their Cap movie...
I see what you're saying, but I still have my doubts they'll keep that possibility open... I suppose you could do a lot in the WW2 setting, but wouldn't the audience want him set in modern days in his sequels once he's been introduced in the modern world in the Avengers.

Marvel Studios already has a lot on it's plate anyways, doubt Invaders is a priority.

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Old 11-19-2008, 07:39 PM   #68
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Marvel needs to save characters for Avenger sequels... you can continue making Iron Man and Hulk and even Thor movies after Avengers... but you need to save staple characters for the Avengers franchise. You can't keep doing both. Hence Cap will probably stay in the present day indefinitely after his solo debut.

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Old 11-19-2008, 07:48 PM   #69
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With what I am suggesting, you can have all THREE - Cap in the past, solo Cap in the present, and Cap in the Avengers. They may not do some of the above, but why close that door when there is no reason to do so. At some point, I would like to see a Sleeper movie with parts taking place in the past and the present - and this way that would be possible.

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Old 11-19-2008, 08:36 PM   #70
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A solo Cap movie in the present doesn't make much sense... you scale back too much from Avengers. I don't expect any solo films for primary Avenger characters after the Avengers movie for that matter... with the exception of IM3. And it makes no sense to go back to the past and do more Cap films because that is an unneccessary risk. Are you going to make what amounts to half of Cap's story... then have him pop up in Avengers without having established that bridge... and then do another Cap movie after Avengers that is also set in WW2 to finally establish that bridge when the actor has already aged about three years? Makes zero sense to me... I think the best solution is... you make one patriotic WW2 film that stands alone by himself... no big deal. Then use him as your staple Avenger hero for up to two if not three films. Going back to solo Cap movies would be a waste.

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I dont see solo Cap movies as a waste are solo comics a waste once they are in avengers titles. And I would prefer Cap sequals in present day I think Cap is more interesting out of his time

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Old 11-19-2008, 09:59 PM   #72
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The Avengers movie IS the bridge from the Cap of the past to the Cap of the present. And if a WWII Cap movie made IM or DK numbers, you BET there would be another!

Has anyone here seen the god awful Cannon Cap movie of the '90's? There was way too much ground to cover - by the time you set up and did the origin, established the Skull, showed Cap's ONLY mission, froze him, thawed him out, did a little man-out-of-time stick, and resolved the Skull conflict - it all seemed so rushed that nothing got the screen time it needed [not unlike Venom in SM3]. Why paint yourself into a corner?

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The Avengers movie IS the bridge from the Cap of the past to the Cap of the present. And if a WWII Cap movie made IM or DK numbers, you BET there would be another!

Has anyone here seen the god awful Cannon Cap movie of the '90's? There was way too much ground to cover - by the time you set up and did the origin, established the Skull, showed Cap's ONLY mission, froze him, thawed him out, did a little man-out-of-time stick, and resolved the Skull conflict - it all seemed so rushed that nothing got the screen time it needed [not unlike Venom in SM3]. Why paint yourself into a corner?
That's what Avengers is for. No one's suggesting he be thawed in this film (except for Avi Arad ). But without him sacrificing himself and being frozen at the end or the war coming to an end, the film and its arc will most likely feel incomplete .

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So Avengers is going to make less than the Cap movie??? Let's be real here... my point is... Avengers will basically blow Cap out of the water in terms of appeal... the budget will be enormous but you can't just back out of making that a potential series/franchise because of the price tag. You NEED a staple hero to carry that franchise for at least another film... and we all know RDJ will be too old by then. That's why you cast relatively young with Thor, Cap, and Pym. The budget would still be very high... but movies with multi-inclusive heroes would still make WAY MORE than any films featuring just one of those characters.


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Old 11-19-2008, 10:24 PM   #75
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I don't see why Downey has to be young to play IM. I think all the physical stuff (testing the suit without the armor) is done & any real armor stuff can be done with a stunt actor. While Downey does the Stark stuff.

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