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Yes, Cap should be American! 73 64.04%
No, the nationality of Cap is not important. 41 35.96%
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Old 11-25-2008, 11:07 AM   #101
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Ill tell you what really Irks me, the fact that all the Welsh and Scottish actors are classed as Welsh and Scottish but all the English ones are clased as British, why arnt the Welsh and Scottish ones classed as British as well, it pisses me off how the English identity gets swamped up in the British one.
Because I know for a fact which part of the UK Christian Bale & Alan Cumming hail from; not so certain of Cillian Murphy, Patrick Stewart or Vinne Jones.

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Old 11-25-2008, 12:26 PM   #102
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If, if, IF he best actor for the role happens to turn out to be American, GREAT! If not, so be it. Why settle?
And here's a hair-splitting question; say they got someone who was born here but grew up elsewhere (Like Bruce Lee was)? Or, what if he was born in another country but grew up here? would you consider him American then?
Good question. Like a Keifer Sutherland? Good actor, lived in the states for almost his entire life, but is a Canadian Citizen. Would you consider him American enough to play Captain America?

I think its splitting hairs and being a bit nit-picky. You don't have to be an American to identify with the idea of patriotism or to identify with America (trust me, I'm a Canadian who has lived in both the US and Canada)

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Old 11-25-2008, 12:38 PM   #103
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to me it's largely about accent. A Canadian accent is not much different from a wisconsin or Michigan UP accent. Also, its fairly easy to avoid. English and aussie actors tend to have their voices soaked in the accent of their home, and while its not hard for them to disguise it, it will slip out in high intensity scenes. This happens to the best actors.

I want Cap to be convincingly american.

Kiefer Sutherland is convincingly american. I didn't know he was a canadian citizen until right now when I read that post.

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Old 11-25-2008, 12:47 PM   #104
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to me it's largely about accent. A Canadian accent is not much different from a wisconsin or Michigan UP accent. Also, its fairly easy to avoid. English and aussie actors tend to have their voices soaked in the accent of their home, and while its not hard for them to disguise it, it will slip out in high intensity scenes. This happens to the best actors.

I want Cap to be convincingly american.

Kiefer Sutherland is convincingly american. I didn't know he was a canadian citizen until right now when I read that post.

Actually Born in London England, then moved to California as a baby, but moved to Canada with mom after parents divorce and grew up in East York (near Toronto)... so he may actually have dual citizenship (UK and Canadian) not sure if he's also got American citizenship.

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Old 11-25-2008, 12:52 PM   #105
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I knew he was born in London.

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Old 11-25-2008, 01:02 PM   #106
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You don't consider, say, Bale-convincingly American?

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Old 11-25-2008, 01:10 PM   #107
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not entirely.

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You don't consider, say, Bale-convincingly American?
I think that it helps his credibility as Batman, when he does his interviews in his american accent. I know alot of people that don't know that he's from the UK. I think that he does a really decent job of his american accent. Better than say Clive Owen (who always seems to have signs of it there)

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Has Clive Owen ever even tried to sound american?

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Inside Man maybe ? don't remember

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I think he's tried, but his speach patterns are weird when he does an American accent (SIN CITY)

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I think he's tried, but his speach patterns are weird when he does an American accent (SIN CITY)

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That was not an american accent he was doing in Sin City.

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He was trying to do an american accent though. I remember him saying that during the DVD commentary. He got his lines just before his scene and he had to really think about how to deliver them in an American accent and he struggled.

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Old 11-25-2008, 04:44 PM   #115
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That was not an american accent he was doing in Sin City.
He was trying because it certainly wasnt an English one.

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its decided

Clive Owen

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Old 11-25-2008, 06:20 PM   #117
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I dont think jackman does that great a job either. I remember being pissed when i saw x-men that wolverine was australian i had no idea who he was and it was not until later that I realized he was trying to hide the accent

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I think Hugh Jackman can pull off the American accent rather well.

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Old 11-26-2008, 07:49 AM   #119
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Has Clive Owen ever even tried to sound american?
Inside Man and Sin City and he did so poorly. He can't do american accents very well at all but the guy sure can act his a$$ off.

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I dont think jackman does that great a job either. I remember being pissed when i saw x-men that wolverine was australian i had no idea who he was and it was not until later that I realized he was trying to hide the accent
Jackman's accent is noticeable in how he pronounces some words. Russell Crowe does a good job. The worst I've heard was Eric Bana's in Troy. His delivery is terrible anyway but with that accent it's hilarious.

We are so off topic but oh well...

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The only time I can think of when Jackman really blew it was when he said "hate & fear" in X1. Kinda like in "Hulk", when Bana told Talbot to leave & I could hear the accent there. But I can't think of one instance where Bale failed to pull it off.

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Bale's accent is terrific, but there's just something about him that doesn't entirely feel american. I'm totally cool with this, however, because Americanness is not a cornerstone of Batman's character.

I also remember Colin Farrell's accent being very good, but I haven't scrutinized it lately.

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Bale's accent is terrific, but there's just something about him that doesn't entirely feel american. I'm totally cool with this, however, because Americanness is not a cornerstone of Batman's character.

I also remember Colin Farrell's accent being very good, but I haven't scrutinized it lately.
Might be the British part of him.

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yeah probably.

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if they hide the accent i wont notice.

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I think it would be interesting to see (of the 65% that voted pro-american actor) how many of those posters are American vs. non-american.

Having lived in the US (pre 911) I know how unbelievably patriotic americans are. Most (not all) patriotic to almost the point of ignorance of other countries and cultures. I remember telling my American buds all kinds of tall tales about Canada, and they just believed every word.

I don't know if it is any better now with the advances the internet had made, but back in the mid 90s... the people I knew at college had no clue about other countries.

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