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Old 01-21-2009, 08:06 PM   #26
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Right off the bat, as far as I'm concerned, Superman should always be the only Kryptonian survivor.

Realistically, now, in the boundaries of a movie, they don't have to be specific at all. The story is about a dying planet and its last son. They'll go that way and find some hole to pull Supergirl in, should they decide to go with a Supergirl movie (and, hell, assuming it'll be a Kara Zor-El one).

As for Zod? The Phantom Zone is a whole different beast.
Well you should qualify that then.... If you say last Kryptonian survivor than that means Zod et al are gone. It means the bottled city of Kandor does not exist. It means Kara dies on Krypton. It means a whole bunch of potential stories you can tell are gone. If you say last son of Krypton then it works better because he was just born at the time of destruction. In the comics for over 50 years, he has not been the last Kryptonian survivor. He was just the last son of Krypton.

If they have to go back and find a hole to allow Kara to exist then it means the original story had a plot hole and it means the original story was weak. Id rather they just acknowledge the possibility that there were other survivors even if they don't say it outright. I think that is a better way to proceed..... A safer way to proceed.

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Old 01-21-2009, 08:10 PM   #27
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i've seen nor read anything that makes me think we'll get another Superman film anytime soon. It seems like he may be in development hell yet again.

But to answer your question, yeah, he should be ''it'' as far as Kryptonarians go..

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Old 01-21-2009, 08:10 PM   #28
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It's debatable how safer that is. If they do acknowledge the possibility, they flirt with hurting the appeal of the origin story. That's why I suggested not going into specifics at all. They show (or imply) the dying planet, the single shuttle going away, Superman for all he knows is the last of his race, until a storyline requires otherwise.

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Old 01-21-2009, 08:17 PM   #29
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It's debatable how safer that is. If they do acknowledge the possibility, they flirt with hurting the appeal of the origin story. That's why I suggested not going into specifics at all. They show (or imply) the dying planet, the single shuttle going away, Superman for all he knows is the last of his race, until a storyline requires otherwise.
Well, thats what I'm talking about. If they show the single shuttle and not mention him being the last kryptonian at all, then it is safe.

If they say... you are the last of our race... it is less safe.

In the opening scene, if they casually mention something like...

"My brother Zor-El and I have been working on propulsion technology incase of such an event"
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"Since the disappearance of Kandor, Krypton has been in a state of panic"
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"Now that Zod is safely in the Phantom Zone, Krypton can once again prosper under a unified council"

or something like that...
It leaves hooks for potential stories in the future. You don't have to tell a Zod escape story, or tell a Brainiac shrinking Metropolis story, or tell a discovery of Kara in a derelict shuttle floating in space story... but the option is there and if you don't tell those stories, atleast you've acknowledged real aspects of Superman canon. That would be a huge boon for fans who catch those nods and for non fans, it makes it seem like the world has been fleshed out and is richer than just what is told on the surface.

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Old 01-21-2009, 08:39 PM   #30
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I actually don't want to see the Phantom Zone criminals again. Bring on Braniac, Doomsday, Darkseid, Metallo...

But to answer the question...YES!

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Old 01-21-2009, 08:41 PM   #31
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It depends on the story and the treatment.

But Supergirl sounds awful to em.

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Old 01-21-2009, 08:46 PM   #32
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It depends on the story and the treatment.

But Supergirl sounds awful to em.
I think Supergirl would be an awesome Justice LEague story. They'd do it almost exactly like the comic except instead of that lame ending, you could have Supergirl actually get hurt and Supes get pissed for real.

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Old 01-21-2009, 08:51 PM   #33
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I think Supergirl would be an awesome Justice LEague story. They'd do it almost exactly like the comic except instead of that lame ending, you could have Supergirl actually get hurt and Supes get pissed for real.
I agree if DC is aiming to make a cohesive DC universe with Routh and Bale as Superman and Batman (rather than their garbage Justice League Mortal with teenage Superman and Batman etc). Having the Supergirl story with Darkseid at the end would be amazing to see in live action. Plus it is a great way to introduce a new character to the DC Universe.

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Old 01-21-2009, 08:57 PM   #34
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I agree if DC is aiming to make a cohesive DC universe with Routh and Bale as Superman and Batman (rather than their garbage Justice League Mortal with teenage Superman and Batman etc). Having the Supergirl story with Darkseid at the end would be amazing to see in live action. Plus it is a great way to introduce a new character to the DC Universe.

Yeah and Supergirl is well known by everyone. It'd be a better addition than someone like Vixen or someone that most people never heard of...

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Old 01-21-2009, 09:31 PM   #35
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would be nice to see supergirl make it on the screens again but first we need to get a more stable superman series going.

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Old 01-21-2009, 09:42 PM   #36
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would be nice to see supergirl make it on the screens again but first we need to get a more stable superman series going.

Seriously, they need to just do "Superman Begins" before they can combine the series together.

One is this Art Deco fantasy that has a "cheating" Lois and deadbeat dad Supes...

And the other is this ultra realistic gritty story about a billionaire vigilante.

There should be a happy medium like the Superman Batman books

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One of many Superman's well known titles is the Last son of Krypton. Some things you cannot change.

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Should Superman to be the sole survivor of Krypton?

Of course. This was established early on in the funny books, and I personally think the idea of him being the sole survivor of a dead planet makes him a bit more special. Which apparently DC once upon a time had an affinity for with the whole "Man of Steel" John Byrne reboot which re-instated this notion.

That's definately not the case anymore, but for a film series ... yes. I believe Supes should be the sole survivor.

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Old 01-22-2009, 06:22 AM   #40
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One of many Superman's well known titles is the Last son of Krypton. Some things you cannot change.
That's just a tag. There's been Kandor, Zod, Ursa and Non, Supergirl, once PowerGirl, etc.

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It's debatable how safer that is. If they do acknowledge the possibility, they flirt with hurting the appeal of the origin story. That's why I suggested not going into specifics at all. They show (or imply) the dying planet, the single shuttle going away, Superman for all he knows is the last of his race, until a storyline requires otherwise.
Agreed.

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Old 01-22-2009, 03:23 PM   #42
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One of many Superman's well known titles is the Last son of Krypton. Some things you cannot change.
The Last Son of Krypton definitely does not imply the last Kryptonian.

It implies the last male child sired from a Kryptonian. That does not exclude Kara, Zod, Ursa, Non, or Kandor.

And as witness by the comics, he is definitely not the last Kryptonian hanging around. It has been that way since atleast the 50s with the appearance of Supergirl. I don't know if other Kryptonians popped up before then.

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yea and currently isnt there a kryptonian city on earth near the fos with thousands of kryptonians, i remember hearing something about that from you guys.

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If they revamped the movie franchise, should Superman to be the sole survivor of Krypton?
I'm torn. On the one hand, it can take away from the emotional layers of Superman if he isn't the last of his species. Yet, on the other hand, I see great things for a character like Zod (Preferably in the 3rd or 4th film) nowadays. My ideal Zod...the man that can play ANY character...Daniel Day-Lewis!



Though, I doubt he'd ever do a comic film.

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interesting choice for zod, though i agree he likely wouldnt do a comic book film unless he got a boat load of money or maybe he actually liked the script.

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interesting choice for zod, though i agree he likely wouldnt do a comic book film unless he got a boat load of money or maybe he actually liked the script.
Yeah, thanks. I mean you want a guy with a powerful voice, a commanding presence, and who can carry any villain role on his pinky...this is the guy.

And I even doubt a boat load of money would ever come before liking the script to Daniel.

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yea i agree a character like zod does need one of those commanding presence and voice to not be a joke. What nationality is daniel?

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yea i agree a character like zod does need one of those commanding presence and voice to not be a joke. What nationality is daniel?
English. But you'd never know it from his films. The guy can pick up and drop accents like grocery products.

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ah was just wondering in the pic he kinda had that mediteranian look.

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ah was just wondering in the pic he kinda had that mediteranian look.
What's the characteristics of that look, exactly? I'm curious.

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