Michael or Prince?

[theMan-Bat]

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Definitely Michael. I always thought Prince was overrated

Which one was called "The King": Michael Jackson. Prince didn't choose and want to be called "Prince" out of ego and stature, his father, pianist John Nelson, named him Prince in 1958 when Prince was born. He was named after his father's jazz band in the '50s, the Prince Rogers Trio. Prince's full name is Prince Roger Nelson. Here is Prince's birth certificate.

and by all acounts, he's a little fu**ing pr*ck!

If Prince was truly a pr*ck then he wouldn't have bothered to help other people like he has. Prince has written and produced albums for other artists, The Time, Sheila E., etc., and donated many of his own songs to many other artists, the Bangles "Manic Monday," Sheena Easton "Sugar Walls," Stevie Nicks "Stand Back," etc., without asking for any credit and often asked for a false name, like Jamie Starr, receive credit instead.
Prince actually does a lot of charity, he just doesn't flaunt his charity work for good publicity. Since 1982 Prince has quietly donated thousands to Marva Collins' Westside Preparatory School in Chicago, Illinois. Marva Collins' Westside Preparatory School is a school that welcomes students who had been rejected by other schools and labeled disruptive and "unteachable." Prince became the cofounder and honorary chairman of Marva Collins's National Teacher Training Institute, created so Marva Collins could retrain teachers using her methodology. During the 1999 tour on December 10th, 1982, Prince sponsored a $50 a person benefit concert with proceeds donated to Marva Collins' Westside Preparatory School and raised over $10,000.
Throughout the Purple Rain tour, special blocks of "Purple Circle" tickets were sold has been put on sale for $50 or more to benefit Marva Collins' training program, as part of Prince's goal to contribute $50,000 or more to Marva Collins' Westside Preparatory School.
While in Washington D.C., Prince attended a charity ball for Marva Collins and Big Brothers/Big Sisters of America and performed a surprise, one-hour show for 2500 deaf and handicapped students at Gallaudet College. While Prince performed, eight purple-clad interpreters translated his lyrics into sign language ("We rehearsed a long time for this," said one, Bernardette Coughlin). In return, the students flashed one sign back: "I love you."
In July 26th, 1983, Prince sponsored a benefit concert for the Minnesota Dance Theater company and raised $23,000.
Prince made food drives a standard feature of the Purple Rain tour. Almost 200,000 pounds of nonperishable food was donated to local food banks serving the needy across America.
A number of free tickets were given to some underprivileged area youth across America. Prince gave free concerts during the Purple Rain tour for disabled, handicapped children in Los Angeles, New York City, Houston and Washington, D.C. In each case the children were bused to the matinee without being told who they were about to see. To his publicists' chagrin, the arrangements were hush-hush, said his press agent, Dorene Lauer, because "His motive was not publicity and he did not want it publicized."
Prince donated his song "4 the Tears in Your Eyes" for the USA For Africa album with proceeds going to the USA for Africa Foundation, for the relief of famine and disease in Africa, specifically to famine in Ethiopia.
Prince sent a $13,200 contribution to the Hands Across America fund-raiser to combat hunger, said David Fulton, a spokesman for the event.
In August 2nd and 3rd, 1986, two Madison Square Garden shows by Prince were benefits for the National Youth Movement, lead by Al Sharpton.
Prince donated $85,000 to Martin Luther King Junior's son, Dexter, for a video to promote a song titled "King Holiday" to benefit the Martin Luther King Center for Nonviolent Change in Atlanta. "He saved the day," King said.
http://www.startribune.com/templates...y?sid=11488591
http://www.bookrags.com/biography/marva-collins/
Prince gave his father songwriting credit on many of Prince's own songs that his father actually didn't write. It was a way to help his father financially.
on December 31st, 1987/January 1st, 1988, at midnight, Prince performed a New Years concert, $200 per-person with a crowd of 400 people at Paisley Park Studios, to benefit the Minnesota Coalition for the Homeless.
In 1988 Prince signed George Clinton to Paisley Park Records with an advance from the deal to pay off the $150,000 George Clinton owed in tax debt.
On October 20th, 1988, Prince played a benefit concert at Citi, a Boston club, attended by 1,000 people, with proceeds (more than $30,000) going to a scholarship set up in the name of Frederick Weber, a Berklee College freshmen who was hit by a car and killed while waiting in line to purchase tickets to Prince's concert at the Worcester Centrum in Boston.
On April 30th, 1990, Prince played a benefit concert at Rupert's nightclub in Golden Valley, Minneapolis, Minnesota, with 650 tickets that were sold at $100 for the widow of Prince former bodyguard Charlies Huntsberry, who died of heart failure without any life insurance to pay for his funeral costs.
http://princetext.tripod.com/n_1990.html
On July 19th, 1991, Prince played at the Special Olympics benefit at the Metrodiome in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
In 1992 the profits for Prince's "Money Don’t Matter 2 Night" single were donated to the United Negro College Fund.
On March, 27th, 1993, Prince performed at the famed Apollo Theatre in Harlem, New York, for a specially invited audience of under-privileged children’s groups from the local community.
http://edition.cnn.com/1999/SHOWBIZ/...wb.prince.bio/
http://articles.cnn.com/1999-12-20/e...?_s=PM:SHOWBIZ
http://articles.cnn.com/1999-12-20/e...?_s=PM:SHOWBIZ
Prince created his own charity organization called Love 4 One Another charity in 1996, proceeds for his concerts benefit the Love 4 One Another charity to support children and those in need of medical care. High school students from across America were selected to attend free Christmas concerts at Paisley Park Studios in Minnesota after sending copies of their school report cards to radio stations in their home states.
At a concert in the Neil S. Blaisdell Center in Hawaii on February 16th, 1997, a section of the front had been reserved, at Prince's request, for handicapped patrons.
http://articles.sfgate.com/1997-04-0...ickets-outlets
On February 25th, 1999, an announcement was made at the Rhythm & Blues Foundation Pioneer Awards at Sony Pictures, Culver City that Prince made made a sizeable donation, rumored to be $100,000, to help the Foundation.
On May 29th, 2004, Prince played at the Tiger Jam Benefit Concert, an SBC-sponsored event at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. The annual benefit concert, hosted by Tiger Woods, raises funds for the Tiger Woods Learning Center, an education facility in Southern California, and local charities. Tiger Woods said. "I am delighted to be working with Prince and SBC Communications Inc. to help underserved youth through the Tiger Woods Learning Center."
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-113576940.html
On September 2nd, 2005, Prince recorded and released two songs, SST and Brand New Orleans, about the Hurricane Catriona disaster in New Orleans, on his NPG Music Club website for download and released the two songs on CD as a single available in stores on October 25th, 2005, and donated all the proceeds from the download and the CD to the Hurricane Relief Fund.
http://www.mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=82994
http://www.discogs.com/Prince-SST/master/218966
In 2007 Prince had his fee, and all his royalties for his song "The Song of the Heart," for the film and soundtrack Happy Feet, donated to charity.
http://www.contactmusic.com/news/pri...harity_1017881
On July 7th, 2007, Prince played a free in-store concert at Macy's in Minneapolis, Minnesota and released a perfume called 3121, with proceeds from the perfume sales going to charities. The charities benefiting include the City of Hope, H.A.L.O., the Elevate Hope Foundation, Urban Farming, the Bridge, the Edith Couey Memorial Scholarship Trust Fund and the Jazz Foundation of America.
http://www.looktothestars.org/news/2...ds-for-charity
On October 10th, 2008, Prince played a charity concert at The Hotel Ganvesoort in New York City, New York, with proceeds going to Love 4 One Another Charities and Urban Farming charity.
http://prince.org/msg/7/314634?pr
On February 28th, 2009, Prince played a benefit concert in the Conga Room at the Nokia Center in Los Angeles for the Tavis Smiley Foundation, with all proceeds going toward the foundation's National Youth Advisory Council.
http://mymusicmixtv.blogspot.com/2009/02/night-with-prince-benefit-for-tavis.html#!/2009/02/night-with-prince-benefit-for-tavis.html
On May 25th, 2011, Prince played a charity concert at the House of Blues in Los Angeles, $500 per-person for his twin dancers, Maya and Nandy's mother, Maureen Moseley, who became ill and has stayed for a lengthy and expensive time at a hospital. http://healmomsheart.blogspot.com/
http://www.houseofblues.com/tickets/...?eventid=69343
In 2011 Prince donated $1 million of his own money to the Harlem Children’s Zone, and $250,000 each to The Uptown Dance Academy and The American Ballet Theatre, whose ballerina Misty Copeland performed with Prince during the tour. Harlem Children's Zone President and CEO Geoffrey Canada had this to say about the donation: "I want to thank Prince. I am touched and blown away by his generosity. This is unprecedented in my lifetime to see an artist come forward and invest in today's children."
Prince also donated the solid gold Fender Custom Stratocaster guitar which he has used during his Welcome 2 America tour to raise money for the Harlem Children’s Zone.
http://jonesmag.com/lifestyle/prince...hildrens-zone/

[JabarR]

Originally Posted by Galactus123

I think that Michael is a lot better. I just enjoy listening his music more and I like his live performances more.

I've seen Michael's live performances, he's not that good! He doesn't play off the crowd, he don't even take time to even talk to them, get intimate with them, he's always recycling his moves, it's always the same old boring thing and what's worst, you'll have to sell you own house to buy a ticket to go see him! I'd rather spend $25 to go see Prince anyday, at least he knows how to put on a show!

[Doc Samson]

Originally Posted by Wams

Nah man....

U are on an island...
U are given a choice.
Prince or MJ.

Who do U choose.

LOL, if it's an island.

And there's a storm coming.

And my death is certain

With only one song I could possibly listen to................










I'd probably go with Michael Jackson, "We're almost there" and that's probably only the scenario I'd be choosing one over the other. Michael simply has a few more songs that I feel on a deeper level. That being said, Prince MJ & James Brown sharing the same stage was probably the greatest show that ever took place, so why the debate?

[Wams]

Originally Posted by Galactus123

If you can play many instruments, it doesn't make you better artist.

I think that Michael is a lot better. I just enjoy listening his music more and I like his live performances more.

I never said that was the soul thing that made him better.
But if I had to make that judgment...
Yes...Prince's intrumental prowess alone dwarfs Mike's collective
talent for me.

If you can play many instruments, it doesn't make you better artist.

Yea...It kinda does.

[Slushy]

Michael had better songs, performances, and won more Grammy Awards so he was the bigger star and will still have the kind of legacy that Prince only wishes he could have after he's gone.

If Prince was truly a pr*ck then he wouldn't have bothered to help other people like he has. Prince has written and produced albums for other artists, The Time, Sheila E., etc., and donated many of his own songs to many other artists, the Bangles "Manic Monday," Sheena Easton "Sugar Walls," Stevie Nicks "Stand Back," etc., without asking for any credit and often asked for a false name, like Jamie Starr, receive credit instead.
Prince actually does a lot of charity, he just doesn't flaunt his charity work for good publicity. Since 1982 Prince has quietly donated thousands to Marva Collins' Westside Preparatory School in Chicago, Illinois. Marva Collins' Westside Preparatory School is a school that welcomes students who had been rejected by other schools and labeled disruptive and "unteachable." Prince became the cofounder and honorary chairman of Marva Collins's National Teacher Training Institute, created so Marva Collins could retrain teachers using her methodology. During the 1999 tour on December 10th, 1982 Prince sponsored a $50 a person benefit concert with proceeds donated to Marva Collins' Westside Preparatory School and raised over $10,000.

Throughout the Purple Rain tour, special blocks of "Purple Circle" tickets were sold has been put on sale for $50 or more to benefit Marva Collins' training program, as part of Prince's goal to contribute $50,000 or more to Marva Collins' Westside Preparatory School.


While in Washington D.C., Prince attended a charity ball for Marva Collins and Big Brothers/Big Sisters of America and performed a surprise, one-hour show for 2500 deaf and handicapped students at Gallaudet College. While Prince performed, eight purple-clad interpreters translated his lyrics into sign language ("We rehearsed a long time for this," said one, Bernardette Coughlin). In return, the students flashed one sign back: "I love you."


In July 26, 1983 Prince sponsored a benefit concert for the Minnesota Dance Theater company and raised $23,000.


Prince made food drives a standard feature of the Purple Rain tour. Almost 200,000 pounds of nonperishable food was donated to local food banks serving the needy across America.


A number of free tickets were given to some underprivileged area youth across America. Prince gave free concerts during the Purple Rain tour for disabled, handicapped children in Los Angeles, New York City, Houston and Washington, D.C. In each case the children were bused to the matinee without being told who they were about to see. To his publicists' chagrin, the arrangements were hush-hush, said his press agent, Dorene Lauer, because "His motive was not publicity and he did not want it publicized."
Prince donated his song "4 the Tears in Your Eyes" for the USA For Africa album with proceeds going to the USA for Africa Foundation, for the relief of famine and disease in Africa, specifically to famine in Ethiopia.
Prince sent a $13,200 contribution to the Hands Across America fund-raiser to combat hunger, said David Fulton, a spokesman for the event.
In August 2nd and 3rd, 1986, two Madison Square Garden shows by Prince were benefits for the National Youth Movement, lead by Al Sharpton.
Prince donated $85,000 to Martin Luther King Junior's son, Dexter, for a video to promote a song titled "King Holiday" to benefit the Martin Luther King Center for Nonviolent Change in Atlanta. "He saved the day," King said.
http://www.startribune.com/templates...y?sid=11488591
http://www.bookrags.com/biography/marva-collins/


Prince gave his father songwriting credit on many of Prince's own songs that his father actually didn't write. It was a way to help his father financially.


on December 31st, 1987/January 1st, 1988, at midnight, Prince performed a New Years concert, $200 per-person with a crowd of 400 people at Paisley Park Studios, to benefit the Minnesota Coalition for the Homeless.


In 1988 Prince signed George Clinton to Paisley Park Records with an advance from the deal to pay off the $150,000 George Clinton owed in tax debt.


On October 20th, 1988, Prince played a benefit concert at Citi, a Boston club, attended by 1,000 people, with proceeds (more than $30,000) going to a scholarship set up in the name of Frederick Weber, a Berklee College freshmen who was hit by a car and killed while waiting in line to purchase tickets to Prince's concert at the Worcester Centrum in Boston.
On April 30th, 1990, Prince played a benefit concert at Rupert's nightclub in Golden Valley, Minneapolis, Minnesota, with 650 tickets that were sold at $100 for the widow of Prince former bodyguard Charlies Huntsberry, who died of heart failure without any life insurance to pay for his funeral costs.


In 1992 the profits for Prince's "Money Don’t Matter 2 Night" single were donated to the United Negro College Fund.
On March, 27th, 1993, Prince performed at the famed Apollo Theatre in Harlem, New York, for a specially invited audience of under-privileged children’s groups from the local community.
http://edition.cnn.com/1999/SHOWBIZ/...wb.prince.bio/


Prince created his own charity organization called Love 4 One Another charity in 1996, proceeds for his concerts benefit the Love 4 One Another charity to support children and those in need of medical care. High school students from across America were selected to attend free Christmas concerts at Paisley Park Studios in Minnesota after sending copies of their school report cards to radio stations in their home states.
At a concert in the Neil S. Blaisdell Center in Hawaii on February 16th, 1997, a section of the front had been reserved, at Prince's request, for handicapped patrons.
http://articles.sfgate.com/1997-04-0...ickets-outlets


On February, 25th, 1999, an announcement was made at the Rhythm & Blues Foundation Pioneer Awards at Sony Pictures, Culver City that Prince made made a sizeable donation, rumored to be $100,000, to help the Foundation.


On February 28th, 2009, Prince played a benefit concert for the Tavis Smiley Foundation, with all proceeds going toward the foundation's National Youth Advisory Council.
http://www.schkopi.com/forum/archive...t11745-20.html
http://mymusicmixtv.blogspot.com/200...for-tavis.html


Prince donated $1 million of his own money to the Harlem Children’s Zone, and $250,000 each to The Uptown Dance Academy and The American Ballet Theatre, whose ballerina Misty Copeland performed with Prince during the tour. Harlem Children's Zone President and CEO Geoffrey Canada had this to say about the donation: "I want to thank Prince. I am touched and blown away by his generosity. This is unprecedented in my lifetime to see an artist come forward and invest in today's children."
http://jonesmag.com/lifestyle/prince...hildrens-zone/

From what I understand:

- Refuses to take pictures and sign autographs for fans, but I guess I can understand the photo thing because of short man stature.

- Gives concert with the lights out

- is one of those celebrities who make outrageous demands then throws a hissy fit when they of course get denied

- hates U2

- hates Guitar Hero

- supposedly made 50 fully produced music videos that haven't been released and probably still won't be even after he dies.

- hates cover songs and to make it worse, he himself has cover songs. WTF?

- had YouTube take down a home video because features 29 seconds of one of his songs was playing in the background.

- is not personable and will use his employee to communicate for him. This is common for many celebrities, but he takes it to the extreme.

- gave a fan sitting front row ($750 tickets mind you!) one of his guitars during a performance then when the cameras weren't rolling anymore, Prince took it right back!

- used his legal team to try to shut down his own fan sites

- refuses to use digital platforms to distribute his latest music

- is a control freak and claimed to have "stop using the Internet" when he couldn't his way online

- And according to Kevin Smith, IIRC he called Prince (which already was a huge hassle as Prince's people would call back every 25 minutes to tell Kevin that they would call him back...) for permission to use "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" for a scene in "Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back". After praising Smith for awhile how great "Dogma" was, Prince then declines him on using the song!

Instead, Prince cons him into making a documentary (something Kevin had no experience with and had no desire to do) about "The Rainbow Children" for free, wasted Kevin's time (about a whole week) and camera film (hours and hours of footage), almost made him miss Father's Day, and faked an injury so he wouldn't appear at Q&A session he wanted also recorded. He winded up changing his mind and turned a planned 10 minute appearance into a 4 hour speech after Kevin had already spent 3 hours talking to fans.

And after ALL of that, Prince put the documentary away in the private vault never to be released and didn't even bother to give the simple courtesy of thanking Kevin!

Say what you will about Michael (him and Prince are both strange pop stars), but at least he was humble to any fan lucky enough to have met him. Prince is a d*ck!

[Galactus123]

Originally Posted by JabarR

Basically, you still forgotten the one thing Michael never managed to do!

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

Musician doesn't need to win Oscars.

[Bads316]

MJ isn't even in the same league as Prince. May as well ask 'Artist or Pop Star'.

[JabarR]

Originally Posted by Galactus123

Musician doesn't need to win Oscars.

They can when they do the ultimate cross-over like Prince did.

[theMan-Bat]

Originally Posted by Blackheart

Michael had better songs, performances, and won more Grammy Awards so he was the bigger star and will still have the kind of legacy that Prince only wishes he could have after he's gone.

Whomevers songs and performances you think are better is pure opinion, not fact. Michael Jackson won more Grammy Awards and was the bigger star because his music was more mainstream and commercial. Prince doesn't wish to have Michael Jackson's legacy. He doesn't try to be "The King of Pop." If Prince was really interested in having the most mainstream commercial success he could possibly have and winning as many Grammy Awards as he possibly could then he would have made his follow ups to his biggest success, the Purple Rain album, sound like the Purple Rain album does, instead he took his music in different directions with his subsequent albums because he's interested more in music as art, rather than how big he is on the pop charts.
Prince said in an interview with Melody Maker published on June 6th, 1981, "You say to yourself, 'Well, do I just wanna be real big or do I wanna do something I'll be proud of and really enjoy playing?'"
Prince explained in an interview with the Los Angeles Times published on November 21st, 1982, "I usually write hits for other people, and those are the songs I throw away and don't really care for. I usually change directions with each record, which is a problem in some respects, but rewarding and fulfilling for me."
Prince explained further in an interview with Rolling Stone published on September 12th, 1985, "You know how easy it would have been to open Around the World in a Day with the guitar solo that's on the end of 'Let's Go Crazy'? You know how easy it would have been to just put it in a different key? That would have shut everybody up who said the album wasn't half as powerful. I don't want to make an album like the earlier ones. Wouldn't it be cool to be able to put your albums back to back and not get bored, you dig?
More than anything else, I try not to repeat myself.
I think that's the problem with the music industry today. When a person does get a hit, they try to do it again the same way. I don't think I've ever done that. I write all the time and cut all the time. I want to show you the archives, where all my old stuff is. There's tons of music I've recorded there. I have the follow-up album to 1999. I could put it all together and play it for you, and you would go 'Yeah!' And I could put it out, and it would probably sell what 1999 did. But I always try to do something different and conquer new ground."
http://princetext.tripod.com/i_stone85.html
Prince said in an interview with MTV aired on November 15th, 1985, "I listened to all kinds of music when I was young, and when I was younger, I always said that one day I would play all kinds of music and not be judged for the color of my skin but the quality of my work, and hopefully that will continue."
http://princetext.tripod.com/i_mtv85.html
Prince said in an interview with Rolling Stone published in August, 1990, "I'm always going forward, always trying to surprise myself. It's not about hits. I knew how to make hits by my second album."
http://princetext.tripod.com/i_stone90.html

From what I understand:

- Refuses to take pictures and sign autographs for fans, but I guess I can understand the photo thing because of short man stature.

Prince use to take pictures with fans and sign autographs, but he has had some frightening encounters with fanatical fans, so he eventually stopped.

- Gives concert with the lights out

The lights are on at Prince's concerts.

- is one of those celebrities who make outrageous demands then throws a hissy fit when they of course get denied

I don't take everything Kevin Smith said as the word for word gospel truth.

- hates U2

Prince does not hate U2. In fact, on March 30th, 1995, in Dublin's The Pod nightclub, Prince invited Bono to join him onstage for Prince's song "The Cross". Bono sang part of the song, while Prince played electric guitar. After the song Prince said, "Wasn't that cool of Bono to come up and sing that for ya? You're pretty lucky to have him, I'll tell you that. He was telling me how special Dublin is, the scenery, the backdoors, the people...Ah, the peoples, the peoples, the peoples." Interviewed later by the Irish press, Bono stated about Prince, "I'm a big fan. That's why I'm here. He is a great song-and-dance-man. And he's a great guitar player."
http://pt.u2start.com/topic/379/2139/#2139
http://prince.org/msg/7/154797

- hates Guitar Hero

Prince didn't say he hates Guitar Hero. What Prince actually said was, "Well, I ain't mad at them. I hear it made, like, $2 billion and they came to us and offered us a very small portion of that. But I just think it’s more important that kids learn how to actually play the guitar. It’s a tough instrument — it’s not easy. It took me a long time, and it was frustrating at first. And you just have to stick with it, and it’s cool for people who don’t have time to learn the chords or ain’t interested in it, but to play music is one of the greatest things. To create something from nothing is one of the greatest feelings, and I would — I don’t know, I wish it upon everybody. It’s heaven."
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/bad-dog-c...-hero-%24.html
Prince isn't the only guitarist who is not a fan of Guitar Hero. Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin has also turned down Guitar Hero. Jimmy Page said, "You think of the drum part that John Bonahm did on Led Zeppelin's first track on the first album, 'Good Times Bad Times'. How many drummers in the world can play that part, let alone on Christmas morning?"
Jack White of the White Stripes said about Guitar Hero, "It's depressing to have a label come and tell you that is how kids are learning about music and experiencing music. If you have to be in a video game to get in front of them, that's a little sad."
John Mayer said about Guitar Hero, "I don't ever want to be the kind of guy who rails against whatever progress has taken place. But Guitar Hero was devised to bring the guitar-playing experience to the masses without them having to put anything into it. And having done both, there's nothing like really playing guitar. I mean, what would you rather drive, a Ferrari or one of those amusement-park cars on a track?"
http://www.examiner.com/xbox-in-phil...uitar-hero-fad
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guita...ar-hero-163618

- supposedly made 50 fully produced music videos that haven't been released and probably still won't be even after he dies.

There are music videos to officially unreleased songs that Prince made in the '90s that were not released at the time because Warner Brothers was trying to limit Prince's releases to not "flood the market," particularly in the '90s. Prince has shown many of these music videos on his official websites, they have been bootlegged, and they get uploaded on YouTube by fans.

- hates cover songs and to make it worse, he himself has cover songs. WTF?

Prince doesn't like people recording covers of his songs for their albums without asking him, but Warner Brothers owns many of Prince's songs. Prince said, "It's cool if you like my song, just call a brother up and say so." Prince has often played covers in concerts with the original artists present as a duet.

- had YouTube take down a home video because features 29 seconds of one of his songs was playing in the background.

I doubt Prince himself even saw Stephanie Lenz's home video on YouTube of the baby, Holden Lenz, dancing to Prince's "Let's Go Crazy". That home video was removed from YouTube at the request of the Universal Music Publishing Group. That home video wasn't really violating copyright law. Universal Music Publishing Group eventually filed a motion to YouTube to dismiss the complaint, a spokesman said.

- is not personable and will use his employee to communicate for him. This is common for many celebrities, but he takes it to the extreme.

Prince has been notoriously shy and quiet with strangers offstage.

- gave a fan sitting front row ($750 tickets mind you!) one of his guitars during a performance then when the cameras weren't rolling anymore, Prince took it right back!

That's a misunderstanding by some people Prince has handed his guitar to. Prince has handed his guitar to fans so they can hold his guitar for a minute, Prince wasn't giving away his guitar for them to keep.

- used his legal team to try to shut down his own fan sites

Prince enlisted Web Sheriff, a company that polices the internet for copyright infringement, to remove copyright infringing material from websites.

- refuses to use digital platforms to distribute his latest music
- is a control freak and claimed to have "stop using the Internet" when he couldn't his way online

File-sharing and illegally downloading of music has devastated the once-booming music industry. Prince is just trying to protect himself from the massive piracy of music online.

- And according to Kevin Smith, IIRC he called Prince (which already was a huge hassle as Prince's people would call back every 25 minutes to tell Kevin that they would call him back...) for permission to use "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" for a scene in "Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back". After praising Smith for awhile how great "Dogma" was, Prince then declines him on using the song!

Instead, Prince cons him into making a documentary (something Kevin had no experience with and had no desire to do) about "The Rainbow Children" for free, wasted Kevin's time (about a whole week) and camera film (hours and hours of footage), almost made him miss Father's Day, and faked an injury so he wouldn't appear at Q&A session he wanted also recorded. He winded up changing his mind and turned a planned 10 minute appearance into a 4 hour speech after Kevin had already spent 3 hours talking to fans.

And after ALL of that, Prince put the documentary away in the private vault never to be released and didn't even bother to give the simple courtesy of thanking Kevin!

Again, I don't take everything Kevin Smith said as the word for word gospel truth. I believe Kevin Smith exaggerates when he's telling stories to crowds to make it more colorful and humorous and to take jabs at people he has a grudge against. Kevin Smith could have simply turned down the offer to film a documentary for Prince if Kevin Smith really didn't want to do it. Kevin Smith wasn't contractually obligated. Kevin Smith should have discussed payment upfront. Also, Kevin Smith said he ran out of film while Prince was talking with the fans, and didn't bother to tell Prince. Prince isn't going to release a documentary that cuts him off in the middle of his discussion with fans.

[Doc Samson]

Originally Posted by Bads316

MJ isn't even in the same league as Prince. May as well ask 'Artist or Pop Star'.

No,they're just not the same type of artist. Clearly. They're completely different. The only reason people compare them is because they were both somewhat androgynous, black artists who reached prominence during the same period. That's about all they have in common.

As far as Michael is concerned, however, if your basing your opinion of him strictly off Thriller, and everything afterwards, then your missing most of his best work IMO

[EGADComics]

Prince all the way. MJ lost it after "Off The Wall". Maybe he should never have gotten rid of Quincy Jones.

[Chris Wallace]

I'm not gonna argue about this anymore. THis isn't like the Spider-Man costume debate where I LOVE one and LOATHE the other. I have seen both these men in concert and enjoyed both shows tremendously. I will always own a copy of Purple Rain and I will always own a copy of Thriller. My musical library has been enriched by these two men and while I may greatly prefer one over the other, I don't see the need to bash either of them in order to uplift one's favorite.

[SpeterMan3]

Originally Posted by Chris Wallace

I'm not gonna argue about this anymore. THis isn't like the Spider-Man costume debate where I LOVE one and LOATHE the other. I have seen both these men in concert and enjoyed both shows tremendously. I will always own a copy of Purple Rain and I will always own a copy of Thriller. My musical library has been enriched by these two men and while I may greatly prefer one over the other, I don't see the need to bash either of them in order to uplift one's favorite.

[Chris Wallace]

Originally Posted by OctaviusINC

There's not a single damn thing anyone ever said on a message board that changed my opinion on someone or something.

Saying one music artist is better than another because they played instruments is like saying a painter is better than a sculptor.

They all make art in their own UNIQUE way.

Stop the sass and just enjoy both of these great artists.

Agreed.

[Wams]

Originally Posted by Chris Wallace

Agreed.

Wait...
U started this thread Chris.
"Michael or Prince?"
That thread title alone automaticly causes a Schism... When it comes down 2 it...
When 1 explains that they like one over
the other because of there skill and talent level with logic and reason...
don't pull the... "I'm not gonna argue about this anymore.
I don't see the need to bash either of them in order to uplift one's favorite."

U started it.

By the way...

Prince won.

[Wams]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgzpF...eature=related

Check out the 7 part youtube Dr. Prince & Mr. Jackson Part 1/7 ^

[Chris Wallace]

http://youtu.be/j3D_8rHH4Gk

[Chris Wallace]

Originally Posted by Wams

Wait...
U started this thread Chris.
"Michael or Prince?"
That thread title alone automaticly causes a Schism... When it comes down 2 it...
When 1 explains that they like one over
the other because of there skill and talent level with logic and reason...
don't pull the... "I'm not gonna argue about this anymore.
I don't see the need to bash either of them in order to uplift one's favorite."

U started it.

By the way...

Prince won.

Originally Posted by Chris Wallace

This is strictly about the quality of their music & whose you think is better. Nothing else.

This was my opening post. In no way does it say tear one to shreds in order to uplift the other.

[Hypestyle]

I always wanted michael and prince to do a record and video together.. of course, it won't happen now..

[S.A.A.D.]

I'll go with Prince, but it's not because of his music, it's because he's funny.

[Ultra Lantern]

I perfer Michael Jackson's music over Prince's music.

[ripse]

Michael Jackson is King of Pop ever & the legend...that great songs i like Thriller, Smooth Criminal & Earth.

[Papa G]

Well, Prince plays all his own instruments and while Jackson was talented, they're in different arenas for me. Prince has made tons of different music with eclectic and differing sounds, and Michael Jackson was pop, with some dance and r&b influence. I'd say Prince is the more talented musician because he actually possesses compositional skill, but I really don't think they should be compared in the fashion of Metallica v. Megadeth or B.I.G. vs. Tupac.

[uniqueweasel]

Gotta be Michael Jackson in my opinion.

[SpeterMan3]

I'll always have tons of respect for Prince and I probably should get more into his music. But my preference will always be MJ, since his music partially shaped me into who I am today. The crazy thing is how his music has that ability, whether you grew up with him, were born in the mid-90s like I was, or, probably born next year. Everything by him just has such a timeless quality to it. At least for me, and maybe because I'm not as familiar with Prince's catalogue, when i hear Prince I think of a certain decade or part of a decade, but for Michael I think of just an album, which definitely is a product of the decade in which it's produced, but it doesn't just sould like, for lack of a better term, a soundtrack for a time period.