DC Comics characters policy on Smallville

Mikelus · 03-05-2009, 06:37 PM

Gregory Noveck, senior vice-president -- creative affairs at DC Comics, told The Continuum that plans and characters for Season 9 of The CW's recently renewed Smallville are beginning to formulate.

"They're just starting to have those conversations," Noveck said. "At some point in the next few weeks, they're going to come to us and say, 'Here's our plan. Do you foresee any snags?'"

As part of his responsibilities, Noveck works with the show's creators in approving and incorporating other DC Comics characters.This season has featured such heroes as Green Arrow, Aquaman, Black Canary, Martian Manhunter, Supergirl and the Legion of Super Heroes and such villains as Doomsday, Plastique, Maxima, Persuader and Toyman.

Upcoming are Zatanna, played by Serinda Swan and shown above with Justin Hartley's Green Arrow, and the return of the Legion.

"I feel great about it," Noveck said of the show's increased use of DC characters this season. "The first three or four years the show was on the air, you have to be really specific and clear about what they were using from the mythology, both to establish the correct mythology of the show and to make sure it was in synch with the comic books.

"As the show evolved, though, they really developed their own style -- and their own mythology. It is its own continuity, so at this point, for me to say, 'Well, you can't use Doomsday that way because he's really this mindless beast from space and he must look like this on screen the first time we see him,' I don't think that's fair to the continuity that they're establishing.

"So, in its own way, its no different than New Frontier or from anything else we do in the comics that's almost an Elseworlds title. Fans at the end of the day know what the Superman continuity is from the comic books. This is another version of that continuity, re-told in a different way, moving the chess pieces around the table a little bit.

"I think it's fun. I'd be rather merciless for a show that's still a hit in Season 8 to say, 'Oh no, you can't do that now.'"

While the influx of DC characters reached new heights in Season 8, there are still areas where Noveck has to draw the line, including probably the most-requested character.

"Anything within the realm of the Superman franchise, we're happy to let them figure out how to use them," Noveck said. "We've often had conversations about how to use them and the interpretations. And there have been conversations over time, "Gee, wouldn't it be great if this guy named Hal Jordan showed up, or this kid named Bruce Wayne?' And we just won't go there. It's complicated, not only from a rights perspective, but from the character use.

"Those are the kinds of things that are obvious nos. But in terms of the Superman world, we've pretty much let them use anyone they've wanted within reason and reasonable interpretation of the character."

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stori...3/05/index.htm

The Caped Knight · 03-05-2009, 08:43 PM

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So Bruce Wayne, Diana Prince & Hal Jordon are off limits . But the rest of the DCU is up for discussion . So I wonder who's going to come to town in season 9 .

SV Fan · 03-06-2009, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kal-El 8

So Bruce Wayne, Diana Prince & Hal Jordon are off limits . But the rest of the DCU is up for discussion . So I wonder who's going to come to town in season 9 .

I am guessing they will bring more female heroes/villians since they can dress them off sexy and promote the hell out of them.

TheAQU4M4N · 03-06-2009, 12:50 AM

damn, i was really hoping for a GL appearance (although i can see how it wouldn't really mesh well with the series plot and the upcoming movie for GL)

SV Fan · 03-06-2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by xMaNiAx

damn, i was really hoping for a GL appearance (although i can see how it wouldn't really mesh well with the series plot and the upcoming movie for GL)

I am guessing GL never makes the theaters. All that being said I really don't see how GL is feasible for a show on a budget, you could have Hal Joradn but I think it would take up to much budget actually having GL.

Speaking of Super hero movies, I have no clue why they don't do a Wonder Woman movie, only an idiot can screw up the potential of that one(although with WB behind it I would worry)

04nbod · 03-06-2009, 06:05 AM

he says Hal is off limits doesn't mean Kyle is. They could do it like the cartoon.

Asteroid-Man · 03-06-2009, 08:02 AM

If they had Bruce Wayne, Batman, Gotham the ratings would go through the roof.

CLARKY · 03-06-2009, 08:44 AM

^I agree, even for one episode ! I do not understand why Hal Jordan could not appear. I think it is ********. Just to avoid having the serie's GL better than the potential film's GL.
Everyone already appeared in Smallville except the big shots. that's ********. So there are more chances to see Blue Devil than Wonderwoman !??! WOW ! great !
I especially like the "obvious nos" part.

Maybe we could hope to see one GL who would not be in films ..... Well, when I see such interviews, I think it is better not holding my breath.

I think the creativity of this kind of product should not being tied up because of other products or films. Let them do it the good way.

The Incredible Hulk · 03-06-2009, 10:10 AM

they didnt say anything about Wonder Woman in that article

Brainiac 8 · 03-06-2009, 10:22 AM

I just want a version of the animated series two parter "The Main Man" and have Lobo show up. How awesome would that be.

Superfreak · 03-06-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac 8

I just want a version of the animated series two parter "The Main Man" and have Lobo show up. How awesome would that be.

Clark has to man up a little before that one happens.

Webhead2006 · 03-06-2009, 11:55 AM

well the producers have stated many times in the past and recently that bats and ww are and still offlimits. As for a gl i think its possible for a gl to be done decently on smallville's budget. As for the gl there is still guy,kyle, and john stewart human green lanterns they could still use.

Mikelus · 03-06-2009, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfreak

Clark has to man up a little before that one happens.

He will fight Doomsday, Lobo is less powerful, just another Titan (the one Clark fought on "Combat").

ironman29758 · 03-06-2009, 02:31 PM

What about Mon-el appearing.

CLARKY · 03-10-2009, 05:24 AM

As brandon Routh ?

I would not say no.

mythicalheroes · 03-12-2009, 08:05 PM

Firestorm I hope season 9 will have this hero

I hope this DC Superhero "Alpha Centurion" appears in season 9

Blue Beetle from the "Justice Guild of America"

The Spectre

Booster Gold "Justice Guild of America"

Black Lightning

Animal Man

Metamorpho1977 · 03-12-2009, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webhead2006

well the producers have stated many times in the past and recently that bats and ww are and still offlimits. As for a gl i think its possible for a gl to be done decently on smallville's budget. As for the gl there is still guy,kyle, and john stewart human green lanterns they could still use.

I don't remember which season but it was either 2 or 3. The one where Lionel has Lex committed. There is a WW reference in the episode. It's a quick shot, but there's a newspaper on one of the tables and the headline is talking about the Princess from Themyscira.

CFE · 03-12-2009, 08:21 PM

Allies:

The Atom
Steel
Adam Strange
Deadman
The Spectre
Orion, Big Barda or Mr. Miracle (hinting at the existence of the 4th world)

Villains:

Amazo
The Parasite
Enchantadora
Kalibak or Steppenwolf (again, foreshadowing to Apokolips)
Atomic Skull

Bring Back:

Brainiac
Mr. Mxyzptlyk

Those are the ones I'd like to see, both new and recurring...

Orb · 03-12-2009, 09:43 PM

How about Superman?

Webhead2006 · 03-12-2009, 10:09 PM

well yes they can make refences probably to bruce/bats as we have gotten with gotham and knightwing's cities getting mentions in the past. Same with diana's mom getting mention back in season 3. But its long been stated by gough/millar and now ps3 that actually having bruce or diana on the show is a no go. To much red tape with WB film division. They should atless let smallville use diana since it doesnt look like jla or ww film will be happening any time soon. As for heroes for next season if they cant get any big names due to restrictions i would think some lesser known guys like animal man, vixen, etc..... types of characters have a better shot of being used since they wont have so much red tape problems to go through.

roach · 03-13-2009, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CLARKY

^I agree, even for one episode ! I do not understand why Hal Jordan could not appear. I think it is ********. Just to avoid having the serie's GL better than the potential film's GL.
.

I dont think so Smallville has been hit or miss with its portrayal of the other heroes. For every Green Arrow there has been an Aquaman. I think a Smallville GL would be watered down and couldnt compare to a 2 hr movie with a large budget

04nbod · 03-13-2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironman29758

What about Mon-el appearing.

Smallville producers are stupid and hero worship Superman to the point of idiocy. To bring in a character like Mon-El (in a story that should have been told in season 2) who has all the powers of Superman and no weakness to kryptonite, a character who is considered mightier than Superman. I don't think so.

It would be like Kara again (except he's a guy and a one episode thing so fans will perhaps be more accepting). How dare anyone excel Clark?! Newsflash, Superman is all and everything in the DCU!

Can you tell I'm angry

Baggers · 03-13-2009, 11:30 AM

I always wanted to see an apperance by The Eradicator, my main theory back in the early days of Smallville was "Jor-el's voice aka Fortress Jor-el" would turn out to be The Eradicator (this would explain why Jor-el seemed so "evil" and "heartless" and seemed to try and force him into his destiny...) but alas that wasn't the case, so would love to see The Eradicator pop up and cause mayhem and force Clark to become more "Kryptonian"...

Also characthers that be cool to me for them to pop up:

*Atom (Ray Palmer)
*Black Lightning
*Imperiex: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperiex (maybe alil OTT tho lol)
*Project Cadmus (I know not a characther, but what the hell...lol)
*Deadman
*Metamorpho
*Spectre
*Red Tornado

Webhead2006 · 03-13-2009, 05:52 PM

Well hopefully if we get any new dc heroes next season they pick a good one or two.

az824 · 03-13-2009, 06:40 PM

well, if i understand correctly, they cant use Diana and Bruce unless their part of the main cast, so cant they add them to the main cast? like Green Arrow? it would seem like a logical step to take

03-05-2009, 06:37 PM	#1
Mikelus Islander Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: France Posts: 2,159	DC Comics characters policy on Smallville Gregory Noveck, senior vice-president -- creative affairs at DC Comics, told The Continuum that plans and characters for Season 9 of The CW's recently renewed Smallville are beginning to formulate. "They're just starting to have those conversations," Noveck said. "At some point in the next few weeks, they're going to come to us and say, 'Here's our plan. Do you foresee any snags?'" As part of his responsibilities, Noveck works with the show's creators in approving and incorporating other DC Comics characters.This season has featured such heroes as Green Arrow, Aquaman, Black Canary, Martian Manhunter, Supergirl and the Legion of Super Heroes and such villains as Doomsday, Plastique, Maxima, Persuader and Toyman. Upcoming are Zatanna, played by Serinda Swan and shown above with Justin Hartley's Green Arrow, and the return of the Legion. "I feel great about it," Noveck said of the show's increased use of DC characters this season. "The first three or four years the show was on the air, you have to be really specific and clear about what they were using from the mythology, both to establish the correct mythology of the show and to make sure it was in synch with the comic books. "As the show evolved, though, they really developed their own style -- and their own mythology. It is its own continuity, so at this point, for me to say, 'Well, you can't use Doomsday that way because he's really this mindless beast from space and he must look like this on screen the first time we see him,' I don't think that's fair to the continuity that they're establishing. "So, in its own way, its no different than New Frontier or from anything else we do in the comics that's almost an Elseworlds title. Fans at the end of the day know what the Superman continuity is from the comic books. This is another version of that continuity, re-told in a different way, moving the chess pieces around the table a little bit. "I think it's fun. I'd be rather merciless for a show that's still a hit in Season 8 to say, 'Oh no, you can't do that now.'" While the influx of DC characters reached new heights in Season 8, there are still areas where Noveck has to draw the line, including probably the most-requested character. "Anything within the realm of the Superman franchise, we're happy to let them figure out how to use them," Noveck said. "We've often had conversations about how to use them and the interpretations. And there have been conversations over time, "Gee, wouldn't it be great if this guy named Hal Jordan showed up, or this kid named Bruce Wayne?' And we just won't go there. It's complicated, not only from a rights perspective, but from the character use. "Those are the kinds of things that are obvious nos. But in terms of the Superman world, we've pretty much let them use anyone they've wanted within reason and reasonable interpretation of the character." http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stori...3/05/index.htm

03-05-2009, 08:43 PM	#2
The Caped Knight Caped Crusader Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Gotham City Posts: 25,650	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville ****** So Bruce Wayne, Diana Prince & Hal Jordon are off limits . But the rest of the DCU is up for discussion . So I wonder who's going to come to town in season 9 . __________________ 10.25.13**

03-06-2009, 12:50 AM	#4
TheAQU4M4N K1NG Of ATL4NTiS! Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,133	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville damn, i was really hoping for a GL appearance (although i can see how it wouldn't really mesh well with the series plot and the upcoming movie for GL) __________________ *"Destiny is like a riptide. You never know it's pulling you until its too late."*

03-06-2009, 06:05 AM	#6
04nbod I need to debrief you Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: birkenhead, uk ahh...the chavs are attacking Posts: 10,259	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville he says Hal is off limits doesn't mean Kyle is. They could do it like the cartoon. __________________ WHAT WOULD DARTH VADER DO?

03-06-2009, 08:02 AM	#7
Asteroid-Man Ham Sammiches Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 16,646	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville If they had Bruce Wayne, Batman, Gotham the ratings would go through the roof. __________________ Basi ranj bordam dar in saale si, Ajam zende kardam bedin Parsi; Namiram az in pas keh man zende'am, Ke tokhme sokhan ra parakandeam. Posting Since 09/24/05 10:30 am

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CLARKY Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: france Posts: 2,611	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville ^I agree, even for one episode ! I do not understand why Hal Jordan could not appear. I think it is ******. Just to avoid having the serie's GL better than the potential film's GL. Everyone already appeared in Smallville except the big shots. that's ******. So there are more chances to see Blue Devil than Wonderwoman !??! WOW ! great ! I especially like the "obvious nos" part. Maybe we could hope to see one GL who would not be in films ..... Well, when I see such interviews, I think it is better not holding my breath. I think the creativity of this kind of product should not being tied up because of other products or films. Let them do it the good way.

03-06-2009, 10:10 AM	#9
The Incredible Hulk O AN I SEXY! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In a cave with a box of scraps! Posts: 29,570	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville they didnt say anything about Wonder Woman in that article __________________ Superheroes: Serious Business!

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Brainiac 8 Clark Smash! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hurricane country AKA Florida Posts: 15,717	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville I just want a version of the animated series two parter "The Main Man" and have Lobo show up. How awesome would that be. __________________ "You won't find the answers by looking at the stars. It's a journey you'll have to take by looking inside yourself. You must write your own destiny, Kal-El." - Virgil Swann Smallville \S/

03-06-2009, 11:55 AM	#12
Webhead2006 The Web-Swinger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 39,735	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville well the producers have stated many times in the past and recently that bats and ww are and still offlimits. As for a gl i think its possible for a gl to be done decently on smallville's budget. As for the gl there is still guy,kyle, and john stewart human green lanterns they could still use. __________________ Warner Bros Restructure's Dc comics into DC entertainment. Hopefully more characters and long in developmental hell projects can make it into the big and small screens soon. Marvel and the House of Mouse? www.ItsJustMovies.com

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ironman29758 Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,799	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville What about Mon-el appearing.

03-10-2009, 05:24 AM	#15
CLARKY Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: france Posts: 2,611	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville As brandon Routh ? I would not say no.

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mythicalheroes Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Oregon Coast (Lincoln County) Posts: 194	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville Firestorm I hope season 9 will have this hero I hope this DC Superhero "Alpha Centurion" appears in season 9 Blue Beetle from the "Justice Guild of America" The Spectre Booster Gold "Justice Guild of America" Black Lightning Animal Man

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CFE This is a job for... Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: At The Movies Posts: 8,898	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville Allies: The Atom Steel Adam Strange Deadman The Spectre Orion, Big Barda or Mr. Miracle (hinting at the existence of the 4th world) Villains: Amazo The Parasite Enchantadora Kalibak or Steppenwolf (again, foreshadowing to Apokolips) Atomic Skull Bring Back: Brainiac Mr. Mxyzptlyk Those are the ones I'd like to see, both new and recurring... __________________ Follow CFE on Facebook BAT-MANIA 2012 - The Exhibition Blog

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Orb Lord of Demons Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,239	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville How about Superman?

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Webhead2006 The Web-Swinger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 39,735	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville well yes they can make refences probably to bruce/bats as we have gotten with gotham and knightwing's cities getting mentions in the past. Same with diana's mom getting mention back in season 3. But its long been stated by gough/millar and now ps3 that actually having bruce or diana on the show is a no go. To much red tape with WB film division. They should atless let smallville use diana since it doesnt look like jla or ww film will be happening any time soon. As for heroes for next season if they cant get any big names due to restrictions i would think some lesser known guys like animal man, vixen, etc..... types of characters have a better shot of being used since they wont have so much red tape problems to go through. __________________ Warner Bros Restructure's Dc comics into DC entertainment. Hopefully more characters and long in developmental hell projects can make it into the big and small screens soon. Marvel and the House of Mouse? www.ItsJustMovies.com

03-13-2009, 11:30 AM	#23
Baggers Midnight Vigilante Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Birmingham UK Posts: 1,113	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville I always wanted to see an apperance by The Eradicator, my main theory back in the early days of Smallville was "Jor-el's voice aka Fortress Jor-el" would turn out to be The Eradicator (this would explain why Jor-el seemed so "evil" and "heartless" and seemed to try and force him into his destiny...) but alas that wasn't the case, so would love to see The Eradicator pop up and cause mayhem and force Clark to become more "Kryptonian"... Also characthers that be cool to me for them to pop up: Atom (Ray Palmer) Black Lightning Imperiex: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperiex (maybe alil OTT tho lol) Project Cadmus (I know not a characther, but what the hell...lol) Deadman Metamorpho Spectre Red Tornado __________________ Baggers

03-13-2009, 05:52 PM	#24
Webhead2006 The Web-Swinger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 39,735	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville Well hopefully if we get any new dc heroes next season they pick a good one or two. __________________ Warner Bros Restructure's Dc comics into DC entertainment. Hopefully more characters and long in developmental hell projects can make it into the big and small screens soon. Marvel and the House of Mouse? www.ItsJustMovies.com

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az824 Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Nashville Posts: 1,295	Re: DC Comics characters policy on Smallville well, if i understand correctly, they cant use Diana and Bruce unless their part of the main cast, so cant they add them to the main cast? like Green Arrow? it would seem like a logical step to take

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