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Old 05-19-2009, 05:18 PM   #101
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I got ya... They would each be special oepratives for unconventional threats, that Fury can "assemble" on an as needed basis. That could work... so long as (as you indicated) it culminates with the Avengers becoming a publically acknowledged team.

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Old 05-20-2009, 04:47 AM   #102
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Thats the idea for when they Bring in Cap and Thor to the fold. Having already had an Iron Man movie and the Avengers presmise brought up in that, the team can already be those who arent having their own movies and those who have already come up. Cap and Thor are far enough away from now but close enough to the Avengers movie release itself that they could be the only new recruits (though of course we wont have seen any Avengers exploits so far to have seen the other members yet, save IM and possibly Hulk).

Cap is working espionage missions for SHIELD at the start of Avengers as his way of easing back into the world. Be daft to just throw him back out there as the poster boy fighting bad guys when he doesnt even know what the tv with a door on his kitchen counter is. In the course of one of these missions he comes across the seeds of the major threat. Barely escaping alive he reports back to Nick who the tells him he has just the people for this kind of situation. They meet, they greet, they argue. Hawkeye doesnt want to give up field command but knows in his heart that Cap is the born leader and Clint's really just been holding his seat for him. On investigating aother aspect of the threat they come across Thor battling some raging monster or something and he informs them that one of his Asgardian brethren (I forget who's a seer) had visions of this great evil and Thor volunteered to go.

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Old 05-20-2009, 07:44 AM   #103
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^ Pretty good...

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Old 05-20-2009, 10:23 AM   #104
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I've said this before, I don't want a smooth transition for Cap into modern times. I would like them to avoid lame fish-out-of-water jokes, of course, but Cap being brought up to speed on today offscreen wouldn't be very dramatic at all.

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Old 05-20-2009, 10:44 AM   #105
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^ to that point... it would be very insightful to recap the significance of so many events that have occurred since WWII. We caould all take a journey through the highs and lows of our nations growth, with him.

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Old 05-20-2009, 10:50 AM   #106
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Good idea, Rich!

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Old 05-20-2009, 10:53 AM   #107
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^ to that point... it would be very insightful to recap the significance of so many events that have occurred since WWII. We caould all take a journey through the highs and lows of our nations growth, with him.
That would also give the filmmakers a chance to present a few differences between our history and the history of the Marvel U where Captain America existed. Just a thought.

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Old 05-20-2009, 01:51 PM   #108
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^ That is a good point... Major real world events could be touched on for their significance and emotive impact... Then some Marvel universe events (like important occurences / people / places... for example relations with Wakanda, or the kind of info brought up via the discussion that Gen. Ross had with Blonsky, or the the award banquet's bio of Stark).

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Old 05-20-2009, 02:41 PM   #109
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^ to that point... it would be very insightful to recap the significance of so many events that have occurred since WWII. We caould all take a journey through the highs and lows of our nations growth, with him.
the unreleased 1990's cap movie had a scene like that

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Old 05-20-2009, 03:15 PM   #110
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And those scenes are a bit cheesey nowadays

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Old 05-20-2009, 03:25 PM   #111
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Because of how they were done. They could be done now, and not come off cheesy at all.

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Old 05-20-2009, 03:36 PM   #112
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CM - Not flash back scenes... just revelations, dialogue, even a scene of him learning how to surf the net, watching PBS, reading news paper arcives, etc and getting info...

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Old 05-20-2009, 03:39 PM   #113
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ALA Fifth Element, minus the whole being a hot Milla Jovovich.

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Old 05-20-2009, 03:41 PM   #114
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If they take anything from Ultimates, it needs to be the scene where Fury escorts Rogers to a cemetery and he basically sees rows and rows of headstones belonging to all of the friends and family he knew.

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^ Kick-ass idea... He would not have a relationship with the fall-out of the War. The half-million casualties would not be known to him. Hell... also, the losses from Nam, and the issues around that war... the cold war, the civil rights movement (he missed all of that), the decadence of the 80s and 90s... the overall change in social norms and culture, the rise of Middle East tensions, Iran-Contra, Nixon scandal, Broadway Joe (he is from NY), and ALL the issues around the Bush admins suspect policies...

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I can see that working. Not a flash of historical images, but a maybe a sort of training montage with scenes of Cap training with special forces guys and kicking their arses, to scenes of trying to use google to fill in his historical gaps and being overwhelmed, back to acrobatic training and beating all course record times, then across to using an ATM to get out some cash and punching the panel cos it keeps asking him a hundred questions before it says CASH. Back to leading a briefing, then cutting to walking past the memorial wall. Things like that.

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There's a great scene in the Earth's Mightiest Heroes mini where Rick Jones is giving Cap a tour of Washington, and they've stopped at the Vietnam Veterans memorial, and Cap's checking out all the names.

RICK: "Cap...? I was just wondering... how much longer are we gonna be here?"
CAP: "For as long as it takes for me to read every name on this wall. For as long ast it takes to acknowledge every soldier that died...in a war that I missed."

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Old 05-20-2009, 04:40 PM   #118
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Yes and yes to CM and Jord... Now we are cooking with gas. I think we are in the ball park of what we hope for from the movie.

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Old 05-21-2009, 03:17 AM   #119
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Then be more glad than ever that Marvel Studios is doing this and not Fox or someone. Because if they weren't then trust me, nothing we've all agreed on thats respectful to the character, faithful to the material gone before, and both exciting and logical on screen would be in this movie.

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There's a great scene in the Earth's Mightiest Heroes mini where Rick Jones is giving Cap a tour of Washington, and they've stopped at the Vietnam Veterans memorial, and Cap's checking out all the names.

RICK: "Cap...? I was just wondering... how much longer are we gonna be here?"
CAP: "For as long as it takes for me to read every name on this wall. For as long ast it takes to acknowledge every soldier that died...in a war that I missed."
This HAS to be in the film. It simple HAS to.

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Old 05-21-2009, 10:00 AM   #121
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Then be more glad than ever that Marvel Studios is doing this and not Fox or someone. Because if they weren't then trust me, nothing we've all agreed on thats respectful to the character, faithful to the material gone before, and both exciting and logical on screen would be in this movie.
Agreed(squared)

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Old 05-22-2009, 08:54 PM   #122
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There's a great scene in the Earth's Mightiest Heroes mini where Rick Jones is giving Cap a tour of Washington, and they've stopped at the Vietnam Veterans memorial, and Cap's checking out all the names.

RICK: "Cap...? I was just wondering... how much longer are we gonna be here?"
CAP: "For as long as it takes for me to read every name on this wall. For as long ast it takes to acknowledge every soldier that died...in a war that I missed."
exponentially agreed

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Old 05-22-2009, 09:40 PM   #123
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I'd say the last 7 or 8 posts have been really on the mark. I really feel that The Ultimates handled Cap's troubles with the modern world rather well. It was done especially well with Cap's former lover being elderly and married to Bucky. That was a great plot twist.

The Captain America character can be so amazing if he is done right on the big screen. I have faith in Marvel so far, so here's to hoping..

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Old 05-29-2009, 06:52 PM   #124
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This HAS to be in the film. It simple HAS to.
not every actor/director can get that scene right..

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Old 05-30-2009, 12:15 AM   #125
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The first film looks as though SHIELD is putting together the Avengers to fight the Hulk,
but I think it may be that SHIELD is getting the Avengers ready because of the growing threat of super criminals, "threats that no one hero can fight alone."
So I think thats what the story is going to be about. The growin threat of super villains and the need for a team that can protect people from those threats.
But i think the main story should be about Loki as the master manipulator behind the scenes, using the Hulk, maybe even using Fury and SHIELD, and then finally confronting the Avengers himself in the end.

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