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10 - Excellent 24 5.08%
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8 74 15.68%
7 97 20.55%
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5 67 14.19%
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Old 05-31-2009, 04:50 PM   #1476
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Magneto's weak plot was kind of the only letdown of X1, I mean, why would He want to give human powers, when it only killed them and instead He could have actually killed humans with missiles or something more like Magneto from the comics but the rest of the movie was great, IMO.
Because making them what they hate the most is more poignant than just killing them. That was the theme of the movie.

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Because making them what they hate the most is more poignant than just killing them. That was the theme of the movie.
Well, turning them into what they hate led to the same death outcome, anyway I think that plot is just fine but some users here found that it to be the one of the weak points of X1 and some users here think that X3 or Wolverine are better than X1 but IMO, X2 and X1 are tied as the best of the franchise.

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Well, turning them into what they hate led to the same death outcome, anyway I think that plot is just fine but some users here found that it to be the one of the weak points of X1 and some users here think that X3 or Wolverine are better than X1 but IMO, X2 and X1 are tied as the best of the franchise.
I would have to agree with this.

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Old 06-01-2009, 01:53 PM   #1480
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X-1 is good. But I do think Magneto's plot was full of holes. How does his magnetism powers turn humans into mutants? And if that power accelerates normal humans into mutation, how does it have absolutely no effect at all on people who are already mutants? Surely it would send their mutations out of control right? That was never fully explained.

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His magnetism doesn't turn humans into mutants. His magnetism is what powered the machine.

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Yea well how does that machine turn humans into mutants, but not effect people who are already mutants at all. Uh oh! Plot hole! Whatever shall we do!?!?!

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I think the machine activated the dormant X-gene. And for those whose X-genes are already activated, nothing would happen of course. Magneto probably had no idea of knowing whether it would effect mutants or not. It was a chance he had to take and apparently simply nothing happened. One X-Men even asked what effect it had on mutants, and since no side-effects were shown, they assumed it would do nothing to them.

Though I always assumed that the machine had an effect on Jean only, and Bryan set it up for the Phoenix.

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Yea maybe. But then the way some people are reacting over this films "plot holes" then surely that is a "plot hole". It's never fully explained, it's just mentioned in passing. But whatever, it's still a decent film. But I wouldn't put it up with X2

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Yea well how does that machine turn humans into mutants, but not effect people who are already mutants at all. Uh oh! Plot hole! Whatever shall we do!?!?!
All of that was explained in X1. You may need to rewatch X1

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It wasn't explained, it was mentioned in passing.

Scott: "Does it effect mutants?"

Prof X: "It doesn't seem to"

And that was about it.

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I think Storm, Jean, Xavier, or Magneto talks about it more in detail. I will watch it when I get home later. They talk about the X gene in the movie and the device only effects humans and has no effect on mutants and as someone said I think they say that it activates that gene.

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Yea maybe. But then the way some people are reacting over this films "plot holes" then surely that is a "plot hole". It's never fully explained, it's just mentioned in passing. But whatever, it's still a decent film. But I wouldn't put it up with X2
There are varying degrees of plot holes. The X1 machine is at the bottom my list.

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Well see, seeing as it was the main part of the plot, it is near the top of my list. Above things such as his claws being shaped and smooth after the experiment.

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It's make believe science. He says he's got a machine that turns humans into mutants, I don't further question it. It's something I can't comprehend and know it's impossible. The claws bother me more because from a simple logical standpoint, thick bones shouldn't turn into thin sharp blades.

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Fair enough. But as I've said before, little things like that don't really bother me at all. You and Chase and others are bothered by that, you wanna focus on it. It's no skin off my back. It's effecting your viewing, no one elses.

Every single film in existence has little goofs like that.

Sure they could have shown them making the blade molds or whatever, but to be honest, I and a lot of people don't need to see that.

But when it comes to the main plot of the bad guy, it should be watertight. And in X-1, it wasn't IMO.


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I still don't see it as a big plot hole. If he's smart enough to build a machine that turns human, he's probably smart enough to only make if affect humans. And even if he didn't, one can easily assume that since it's a machine that makes humans, it has no effect on normal mutants. It's not really a glaring plot hole. This is one of the moments where you don't need someone monologing for an hour how his machine works.

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I'm not saying it's a glaring plot hole. I'm just saying it wasn't fully explained and it leaves too much to speculation, which I've seen banded about in these forums for this movie as a bad thing.

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But when it comes to the main plot of the bad guy, it should be watertight. And in X-1, it wasn't IMO.
I have to throw in my 2 cents on this. I agree with what Nathan said. I don't need to study the blueprints and attend a weeks lecture on the building of a hypothetical mutant creating machine to just say "Hey, he has a machine to turn humans into mutants...cool."

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Yea fair enough. I don't need to know the ins and outs of it, but as I said, it leaves too much to speculation about how it doesn't effect mutants and all that. And that is used as a negative thing about this film in some cases.

You say you don't need to know the ins and outs of Magneto's plan? Neither do I. And in the same vein, I don't need to see how his bone claws end up sharp and smooth.

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I'm not saying it's a glaring plot hole. I'm just saying it wasn't fully explained and it leaves too much to speculation, which I've seen banded about in these forums for this movie as a bad thing.
Speculating what the character does off-screen is what's a bad thing. Like we shouldn't have to guess what the hell Logan does with Kayla when he finds her dead. Or why he can't tell that only blood is poured on her and there are no visible injuries and why the clothes aren't even torn. The things that you notice on first glance.

The inner workings of a Movie machine are the least of my worries.

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Well if you wanna get technical I could say it's probable that the bag of blood poured on her is her blood. Smelling sense covered.

He checks her pulse. There is no pulse, she appears dead. Simple.

The way his claws go all smooth and sharp are the least of my worries. That makes it a stalemate

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I'm just pointing out that there's a difference between the Movies. It may not annoy you, but simply from a logical standpoint, and things you can actually comprehend, Origins has more faults than X1. And every time I get shown a scene that yells movie magic, I get pulled out of the Movie.

Like Gambit lying on the floor and the next moment he's apparently running on roofs from the other side of town.

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Well if you wanna get technical I could say it's probable that the bag of blood poured on her is her blood. Smelling sense covered.

He checks her pulse. There is no pulse, she appears dead. Simple.

The way his claws go all smooth and sharp are the least of my worries. That makes it a stalemate
Well she should still be breathing to be technical or else she would die. Her breathing might have slowed with her pulse but she would still be breathing to supply oxygen to the brain.

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Well she should still be breathing to be technical or else she would die. Her breathing might have slowed with her pulse but she would still be breathing to supply oxygen to the brain.
Well, Wolverine didn't know it wasn't really Jean Grey entering his tent and climbing on top of him in X2. So much for mutant senses. He knew that it wasn't really Storm coming up behind him in X1.

Not to mention that Mystique shouldn't really have a scar. She's a metamorph, ya know? And wasn't the scar in X2 in a different place to the wound at the end of X1?

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